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shocks
#31 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:31:35 AM
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Joined: 3/15/2009
Posts: 362
Will CORD Reach Referendum Stage

CHAPTER SIXTEEN––AMENDMENT OF THIS CONSTITUTION

255.

(1) A proposed amendment to this Constitution shall be enacted in accordance with Article 256 or 257, and approved in accordance with clause (2) by a referendum, if the amendment relates to any of the following matters;
(a) the supremacy of this Constitution
(b) the territory of Kenya
(c) the sovereignty of the people
(d) the national values and principles of governance mentioned in Article 10 (2) (a) to (d)
(e) the Bill of Rights
(f) the term of office of the President
(g) the independence of the Judiciary and the commissions and independent offices
to which Chapter Fifteen applies
(h) the functions of Parliament
(i) the objects, principles and structure of devolved government
(j) the provisions of this Chapter.

(2) A proposed amendment shall be approved by a referendum under clause (1) if;
(a) at least twenty per cent of the registered voters in each of at least half of the
counties vote in the referendum
(b) the amendment is supported by a simple majority of the citizens voting in the referendum.

(3) An amendment to this Constitution that does not relate to a matter mentioned
in clause (1) shall be enacted either;
(a) by Parliament, in accordance with Article 256
(b) by the people and Parliament, in accordance with Article 257.

256.

(1) A Bill to amend this Constitution;
(a) may be introduced in either House of Parliament
(b) may not address any other matter apart from consequential amendments to legislation arising from the Bill
(c) shall not be called for second reading in either House within ninety days after the first reading of the Bill in that House
(d) shall have been passed by Parliament when each House of Parliament has passed the Bill, in both its second and third readings, by not less than two-thirds of all the members of that House.

(2) Parliament shall publicise any Bill to amend this Constitution, and facilitate public discussion about the Bill.

(3) After Parliament passes a Bill to amend this Constitution, the Speakers of the two Houses of Parliament shall jointly submit to the President;
(a) the Bill, for assent and publication
(b) a certificate that the Bill has been passed by Parliament in accordance with this Article.

(4) Subject to clause (5), the President shall assent to the Bill and cause it to be published within thirty days after the Bill is enacted by Parliament.

(5) If a Bill to amend this Constitution proposes an amendment relating to a matter mentioned in Article 255 (1);
(a) the President shall, before assenting to the Bill, request the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission to conduct, within ninety days, a national
referendum for approval of the Bill
(b) within thirty days after the chairperson of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission has certified to the President that the Bill has been
approved in accordance with Article 255 (2), the President shall assent to the Bill and cause it to be published.

257.

(1) An amendment to this Constitution may be proposed by a popular initiative signed by at least one million registered voters.

(2) A popular initiative for an amendment to this Constitution may be in the form of a general suggestion or a formulated draft Bill.

(3) If a popular initiative is in the form of a general suggestion, the promoters of that popular initiative shall formulate it into a draft Bill.

(4) The promoters of a popular initiative shall deliver the draft Bill and the supporting signatures to the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission,
which shall verify that the initiative is supported by at least one million registered voters.

(5) If the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission is satisfied that the initiative meets the requirements of this Article, the Commission shall submit the draft Bill to each county assembly for consideration within three months after the date it was submitted by the Commission.

(6) If a county assembly approves the draft Bill within three months after the date it was submitted by the Commission, the speaker of the county assembly shall deliver a copy of the draft Bill jointly to the Speakers of the two Houses of Parliament, with a certificate that the county assembly has approved it.

(7) If a draft Bill has been approved by a majority of the county assemblies, it shall be introduced in Parliament without delay.

(8) A Bill under this Article is passed by Parliament if supported by a majority of the members of each House.

(9) If Parliament passes the Bill, it shall be submitted to the President for assent in accordance with Articles 256 (4) and (5).

(10) If either House of Parliament fails to pass the Bill, or the Bill relates to a matter mentioned in 255 (1), the proposed amendment shall be submitted to the
people in a referendum.

(11) Article 255 (2) applies, with any necessary
modifications, to a referendum under clause (10).
Kratos
#32 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:53:16 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/19/2011
Posts: 1,694
Rollout wrote:
Kratos wrote:
nakujua wrote:
willin2learn wrote:
In my layman understanding, it's the work of the opposition to keep the Government of the day on its toes! so hapa CORD wamescore. It's upto the Government to show they are addressing the issues raised.

holding rallies will not keep the government on its toes, pushing hard via parliamentary committees, summoning the senior civil servants and other government appointees, holding motions to dismiss non performers in the both houses is the way the opposition is supposed to keep the government on its toes.
otherwise hii mambo ya kupayuka payuka does no good, why on earth do we need elect representatives every five year for.



Hear!Hear! Spoken like 10 shairmans.

I don't understand why cordashians are pretending that they don't know how parliament works. Its all in the damn constitution if they ever bothered to read it.


Na si that list is long lol, reminds me of a lecturer who used to tell us "kujaza foolscap sio kupita mtihani" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Hahaha! which parliement are you talking about? The kenya parliement where MPs are paid to vote? Let's be honest...... Uhuru/Raila, Jubiree/Ncord fight has little to do with you and me so let's not be dishonest and sabotage our interest as we pick sides

Food prices and insecurity affect you and I more than RAILA and Uhuru so let's all learn to fight for what's ours regardless of where your tribe's man is!


@Rollout am not sure how to answer you. Don't become as naive as the people you live with huko majuu.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
murchr
#33 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 4:55:14 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Kratos wrote:
Rollout wrote:
Kratos wrote:
nakujua wrote:
willin2learn wrote:
In my layman understanding, it's the work of the opposition to keep the Government of the day on its toes! so hapa CORD wamescore. It's upto the Government to show they are addressing the issues raised.

holding rallies will not keep the government on its toes, pushing hard via parliamentary committees, summoning the senior civil servants and other government appointees, holding motions to dismiss non performers in the both houses is the way the opposition is supposed to keep the government on its toes.
otherwise hii mambo ya kupayuka payuka does no good, why on earth do we need elect representatives every five year for.



Hear!Hear! Spoken like 10 shairmans.

I don't understand why cordashians are pretending that they don't know how parliament works. Its all in the damn constitution if they ever bothered to read it.


Na si that list is long lol, reminds me of a lecturer who used to tell us "kujaza foolscap sio kupita mtihani" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Hahaha! which parliement are you talking about? The kenya parliement where MPs are paid to vote? Let's be honest...... Uhuru/Raila, Jubiree/Ncord fight has little to do with you and me so let's not be dishonest and sabotage our interest as we pick sides

Food prices and insecurity affect you and I more than RAILA and Uhuru so let's all learn to fight for what's ours regardless of where your tribe's man is!


@Rollout am not sure how to answer you. Don't become as naive as the people you live with huko majuu.



I guess he thinks lobbying doesnt happen elsewhere.......@Rollout some research b4 posting on issues you know little about will help
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Muheani
#34 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:00:40 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/20/2009
Posts: 1,402
I support them in as far as the intent is for maintaining their visibility to 2017. Nothing wrong with that. But isn't there a better way/route?

there is a prize to pay.....
murchr
#35 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:21:40 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
I wait to see what Nanok Joho and Namwamba have up their sleeves. All this yada yada was to hoodwink them, i guess Joho just realized this. Nanok and Namwamba saw this earlier.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
McReggae
#36 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:52:05 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:
I wait to see what Nanok Joho and Namwamba have up their sleeves. All this yada yada was to hoodwink them, i guess Joho just realized this. Nanok and Namwamba saw this earlier.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly We got new hyenas in the house!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
kysse
#37 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:08:54 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 1/17/2013
Posts: 4,693
Location: Earth
Did Kalooser say 'huwezi ongea na kiziwi?'Sad
washiku
#38 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:25:17 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
murchr wrote:
I wait to see what Nanok Joho and Namwamba have up their sleeves. All this yada yada was to hoodwink them, i guess Joho just realized this. Nanok and Namwamba saw this earlier.


@Namwamba said he was 100% behind CORD's activities at Uhuru Park though in absentiasmile . But his recent absence was not noted just in Wazua, even Okoa Kenya key members were not sure.

KulaRaha
#39 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:30:47 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/26/2007
Posts: 6,514
Good morning! This sums up exactly how a lot of Kenyans should feel!

Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
limanika
#40 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:31:38 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/21/2011
Posts: 2,032
shocks wrote:
Will CORD Reach Referendum Stage

CHAPTER SIXTEEN––AMENDMENT OF THIS CONSTITUTION

255.

(1) A proposed amendment to this Constitution shall be enacted in accordance with Article 256 or 257, and approved in accordance with clause (2) by a referendum, if the amendment relates to any of the following matters;
(a) the supremacy of this Constitution
(b) the territory of Kenya
(c) the sovereignty of the people
(d) the national values and principles of governance mentioned in Article 10 (2) (a) to (d)
(e) the Bill of Rights
(f) the term of office of the President
(g) the independence of the Judiciary and the commissions and independent offices
to which Chapter Fifteen applies
(h) the functions of Parliament
(i) the objects, principles and structure of devolved government
(j) the provisions of this Chapter.

(2) A proposed amendment shall be approved by a referendum under clause (1) if;
(a) at least twenty per cent of the registered voters in each of at least half of the
counties vote in the referendum
(b) the amendment is supported by a simple majority of the citizens voting in the referendum.

(3) An amendment to this Constitution that does not relate to a matter mentioned
in clause (1) shall be enacted either;
(a) by Parliament, in accordance with Article 256
(b) by the people and Parliament, in accordance with Article 257.

256.

(1) A Bill to amend this Constitution;
(a) may be introduced in either House of Parliament
(b) may not address any other matter apart from consequential amendments to legislation arising from the Bill
(c) shall not be called for second reading in either House within ninety days after the first reading of the Bill in that House
(d) shall have been passed by Parliament when each House of Parliament has passed the Bill, in both its second and third readings, by not less than two-thirds of all the members of that House.

(2) Parliament shall publicise any Bill to amend this Constitution, and facilitate public discussion about the Bill.

(3) After Parliament passes a Bill to amend this Constitution, the Speakers of the two Houses of Parliament shall jointly submit to the President;
(a) the Bill, for assent and publication
(b) a certificate that the Bill has been passed by Parliament in accordance with this Article.

(4) Subject to clause (5), the President shall assent to the Bill and cause it to be published within thirty days after the Bill is enacted by Parliament.

(5) If a Bill to amend this Constitution proposes an amendment relating to a matter mentioned in Article 255 (1);
(a) the President shall, before assenting to the Bill, request the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission to conduct, within ninety days, a national
referendum for approval of the Bill
(b) within thirty days after the chairperson of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission has certified to the President that the Bill has been
approved in accordance with Article 255 (2), the President shall assent to the Bill and cause it to be published.

257.

(1) An amendment to this Constitution may be proposed by a popular initiative signed by at least one million registered voters.

(2) A popular initiative for an amendment to this Constitution may be in the form of a general suggestion or a formulated draft Bill.

(3) If a popular initiative is in the form of a general suggestion, the promoters of that popular initiative shall formulate it into a draft Bill.

(4) The promoters of a popular initiative shall deliver the draft Bill and the supporting signatures to the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission,
which shall verify that the initiative is supported by at least one million registered voters.

(5) If the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission is satisfied that the initiative meets the requirements of this Article, the Commission shall submit the draft Bill to each county assembly for consideration within three months after the date it was submitted by the Commission.

(6) If a county assembly approves the draft Bill within three months after the date it was submitted by the Commission, the speaker of the county assembly shall deliver a copy of the draft Bill jointly to the Speakers of the two Houses of Parliament, with a certificate that the county assembly has approved it.

(7) If a draft Bill has been approved by a majority of the county assemblies, it shall be introduced in Parliament without delay.

(8) A Bill under this Article is passed by Parliament if supported by a majority of the members of each House.

(9) If Parliament passes the Bill, it shall be submitted to the President for assent in accordance with Articles 256 (4) and (5).

(10) If either House of Parliament fails to pass the Bill, or the Bill relates to a matter mentioned in 255 (1), the proposed amendment shall be submitted to the
people in a referendum.

(11) Article 255 (2) applies, with any necessary
modifications, to a referendum under clause (10).

How I pray that the eyes of each and every Kenyan can be opened to see thro the deception and hypocrisy. How can one insist on crossing a bridge yet nowhere near the river. They already know that Parliament will not approve whatever proposed changes b4 referendum stage? And if these are rejected in Parliament, how will they pass in referendum.
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