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simonkabz wrote:Wazuans should come together one of these days we do a saba saba on one tycho. Tycho, storm is coming! i hope now the storm is over, or it will metarmophozise to something else..  The God of the day is still God in the night.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Now there's a call for another referendum to be done before an election all in the name of demoncracy....total baloney This is democracy under a minority, and marionnettes dancing to their fake tunes. Or do you think what happened today was democracy for all? What makes up a citizen? Birth? What makes up a citizen? Yes, birth and everything else that the law prescribes. That cannot be democratic, there has to be an autocratic prescribed method for it. Give me an example of a successful democracy comeon convince me tycho Am not surprised that you don't know what defines citizenship. You have forgotten that citizenship is defined by free humans taking up responsibility to form and maintain a body politic, and to defend it. That's what legitimacy is about. Examples? Most of Africa before pseudo-politics held us captive. Have you read about the Peloponnysian war- Athens versus Sparta? How can one know if a political system is successful or not? No i have not read that and believe me i wouldn't. I am a present-future kind of guy i study the now and the will be. The "once upon a time" is not as important unless its cyclical in a way. There are various ways of knowing a political system is successful, "a seemingly contented people" Look around, what has worked out there? I see more of a dictatorship kind of government. Only you is capable of such a contradictory post without knowing it. Typical of the mass man. Now you think your opinion is just and true! And even logical! Comparison when your present is the only frame of reference. Sheer blindness. My view hasn't changed. Democracy is a fallacy. View? Even a mad man has a view. Question is the grounds of holding a view. Is it logical and true? If not, even if you shout it out, or bolster it with violence, it avails nothing. The march towards a more effective democracy continues.
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tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Now there's a call for another referendum to be done before an election all in the name of demoncracy....total baloney This is democracy under a minority, and marionnettes dancing to their fake tunes. Or do you think what happened today was democracy for all? What makes up a citizen? Birth? What makes up a citizen? Yes, birth and everything else that the law prescribes. That cannot be democratic, there has to be an autocratic prescribed method for it. Give me an example of a successful democracy comeon convince me tycho Am not surprised that you don't know what defines citizenship. You have forgotten that citizenship is defined by free humans taking up responsibility to form and maintain a body politic, and to defend it. That's what legitimacy is about. Examples? Most of Africa before pseudo-politics held us captive. Have you read about the Peloponnysian war- Athens versus Sparta? How can one know if a political system is successful or not? No i have not read that and believe me i wouldn't. I am a present-future kind of guy i study the now and the will be. The "once upon a time" is not as important unless its cyclical in a way. There are various ways of knowing a political system is successful, "a seemingly contented people" Look around, what has worked out there? I see more of a dictatorship kind of government. Only you is capable of such a contradictory post without knowing it. Typical of the mass man. Now you think your opinion is just and true! And even logical! Comparison when your present is the only frame of reference. Sheer blindness. My view hasn't changed. Democracy is a fallacy. View? Even a mad man has a view. Question is the grounds of holding a view. Is it logical and true? If not, even if you shout it out, or bolster it with violence, it avails nothing. The march towards a more effective democracy continues. The English will tell you a view is ~"an opinion or way of thinking about something" I hold mine, and have given examples as to why i believe that democracy is a falacy, and you hold a contrally view without any support apart from lots gibberish without a concrete example of a so called democracy that has seldom worked. But all in all the mental carthasis is welcomed as you march to that "effective democracy" let me know once you get there. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Now there's a call for another referendum to be done before an election all in the name of demoncracy....total baloney This is democracy under a minority, and marionnettes dancing to their fake tunes. Or do you think what happened today was democracy for all? What makes up a citizen? Birth? What makes up a citizen? Yes, birth and everything else that the law prescribes. That cannot be democratic, there has to be an autocratic prescribed method for it. Give me an example of a successful democracy comeon convince me tycho Am not surprised that you don't know what defines citizenship. You have forgotten that citizenship is defined by free humans taking up responsibility to form and maintain a body politic, and to defend it. That's what legitimacy is about. Examples? Most of Africa before pseudo-politics held us captive. Have you read about the Peloponnysian war- Athens versus Sparta? How can one know if a political system is successful or not? No i have not read that and believe me i wouldn't. I am a present-future kind of guy i study the now and the will be. The "once upon a time" is not as important unless its cyclical in a way. There are various ways of knowing a political system is successful, "a seemingly contented people" Look around, what has worked out there? I see more of a dictatorship kind of government. Only you is capable of such a contradictory post without knowing it. Typical of the mass man. Now you think your opinion is just and true! And even logical! Comparison when your present is the only frame of reference. Sheer blindness. My view hasn't changed. Democracy is a fallacy. View? Even a mad man has a view. Question is the grounds of holding a tsarsview. Is it logical and true? If not, even if you shout it out, or bolster it with violence, it avails nothing. The march towards a more effective democracy continues. The English will tell you a view is ~"an opinion or way of thinking about something" I hold mine, and have given examples as to why i believe that democracy is a falacy, and you hold a contrally view without any support apart from lots gibberish without a concrete example of a so called democracy that has seldom worked. But all in all the mental carthasis is welcomed as you march to that "effective democracy" let me know once you get there. You can't identify any example. You have confirmed it yourself. So your post is the gibberish, and I don't need to wake you up more than am doing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:tycho wrote:murchr wrote:Now there's a call for another referendum to be done before an election all in the name of demoncracy....total baloney This is democracy under a minority, and marionnettes dancing to their fake tunes. Or do you think what happened today was democracy for all? What makes up a citizen? Birth? What makes up a citizen? Yes, birth and everything else that the law prescribes. That cannot be democratic, there has to be an autocratic prescribed method for it. Give me an example of a successful democracy comeon convince me tycho Am not surprised that you don't know what defines citizenship. You have forgotten that citizenship is defined by free humans taking up responsibility to form and maintain a body politic, and to defend it. That's what legitimacy is about. Examples? Most of Africa before pseudo-politics held us captive. Have you read about the Peloponnysian war- Athens versus Sparta? How can one know if a political system is successful or not? No i have not read that and believe me i wouldn't. I am a present-future kind of guy i study the now and the will be. The "once upon a time" is not as important unless its cyclical in a way. There are various ways of knowing a political system is successful, "a seemingly contented people" Look around, what has worked out there? I see more of a dictatorship kind of government. Only you is capable of such a contradictory post without knowing it. Typical of the mass man. Now you think your opinion is just and true! And even logical! Comparison when your present is the only frame of reference. Sheer blindness. My view hasn't changed. Democracy is a fallacy. View? Even a mad man has a view. Question is the grounds of holding a tsarsview. Is it logical and true? If not, even if you shout it out, or bolster it with violence, it avails nothing. The march towards a more effective democracy continues. The English will tell you a view is ~"an opinion or way of thinking about something" I hold mine, and have given examples as to why i believe that democracy is a falacy, and you hold a contrally view without any support apart from lots gibberish without a concrete example of a so called democracy that has seldom worked. But all in all the mental carthasis is welcomed as you march to that "effective democracy" let me know once you get there. You can't identify any example. You have confirmed it yourself. So your post is the gibberish, and I don't need to wake you up more than am doing. As usual you got lost in it all, you even dont seem to know what the thread is about. I suggest you go back to page1. And read slowly "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:It looks good on paper - All have equal rights, freedom of speech, association, bla bla but in reality there's no perfect world and so its un-relistic to expect this thing called democracy to work esp in a world where the right to freedom of speech can be used stir up unnecessary emotions among the masses.
If i was to advise Uhuru, i'd tell him that its time her created the dirty hand of government. You know something like what Kanyotu had only more sophisticated to clean out the dirty linen. It happens elsewhere in the world. So I decide to quote your first post. It's about democracy, and especially the freedom of speech implied by it can be used to cause undesirable effect. And all through the thread you haven't proven that this is necessarily true due to democracy. You haven't proven a thing about democracy. All you have done is extol 'dictatorship' again without proof. Now you project your faults on me. Surely @Murchr!
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