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Democracy is a Fallacy
tycho
#51 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 8:19:52 PM
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murchr wrote:
Now there's a call for another referendum to be done before an election all in the name of demoncracy....total baloney


This is democracy under a minority, and marionnettes dancing to their fake tunes. Or do you think what happened today was democracy for all?

What makes up a citizen? Birth?
symbols
#52 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 10:40:07 PM
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The answer is less accountability and transparency in a place filled with corruption and sensitive to tribalism.Wow.
tycho
#53 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 10:44:02 PM
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symbols wrote:
The answer is less accountability and transparency.


The answer to what?
butterflyke
#54 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 10:45:40 PM
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muganda wrote:
Democracy is used by autocrats
in a bid to sell peace without justice
or a dream of prosperity without social equality
like freedom of speech without political expression

That democracy is a fallacy.


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Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
symbols
#55 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 10:48:28 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
The answer is less accountability and transparency.


The answer to what?

Democracy is a fallacy.
murchr
#56 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 11:07:11 PM
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tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Now there's a call for another referendum to be done before an election all in the name of demoncracy....total baloney


This is democracy under a minority, and marionnettes dancing to their fake tunes. Or do you think what happened today was democracy for all?

What makes up a citizen? Birth?


What makes up a citizen? Yes, birth and everything else that the law prescribes. That cannot be democratic, there has to be an autocratic prescribed method for it.

Give me an example of a successful democracy comeon convince me tycho
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tycho
#57 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 11:28:51 PM
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Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Now there's a call for another referendum to be done before an election all in the name of demoncracy....total baloney


This is democracy under a minority, and marionnettes dancing to their fake tunes. Or do you think what happened today was democracy for all?

What makes up a citizen? Birth?


What makes up a citizen? Yes, birth and everything else that the law prescribes. That cannot be democratic, there has to be an autocratic prescribed method for it.

Give me an example of a successful democracy comeon convince me tycho


Am not surprised that you don't know what defines citizenship. You have forgotten that citizenship is defined by free humans taking up responsibility to form and maintain a body politic, and to defend it.

That's what legitimacy is about.

Examples? Most of Africa before pseudo-politics held us captive. Have you read about the Peloponnysian war- Athens versus Sparta?

How can one know if a political system is successful or not?
murchr
#58 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 11:40:36 PM
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tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Now there's a call for another referendum to be done before an election all in the name of demoncracy....total baloney


This is democracy under a minority, and marionnettes dancing to their fake tunes. Or do you think what happened today was democracy for all?

What makes up a citizen? Birth?


What makes up a citizen? Yes, birth and everything else that the law prescribes. That cannot be democratic, there has to be an autocratic prescribed method for it.

Give me an example of a successful democracy comeon convince me tycho


Am not surprised that you don't know what defines citizenship. You have forgotten that citizenship is defined by free humans taking up responsibility to form and maintain a body politic, and to defend it.

That's what legitimacy is about.

Examples? Most of Africa before pseudo-politics held us captive. Have you read about the Peloponnysian war- Athens versus Sparta?

How can one know if a political system is successful or not?


No i have not read that and believe me i wouldn't. I am a present-future kind of guy i study the now and the will be. The "once upon a time" is not as important unless its cyclical in a way.

There are various ways of knowing a political system is successful, "a seemingly contented people" Look around, what has worked out there? I see more of a dictatorship kind of government.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tycho
#59 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 11:46:55 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
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murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Now there's a call for another referendum to be done before an election all in the name of demoncracy....total baloney


This is democracy under a minority, and marionnettes dancing to their fake tunes. Or do you think what happened today was democracy for all?

What makes up a citizen? Birth?


What makes up a citizen? Yes, birth and everything else that the law prescribes. That cannot be democratic, there has to be an autocratic prescribed method for it.

Give me an example of a successful democracy comeon convince me tycho


Am not surprised that you don't know what defines citizenship. You have forgotten that citizenship is defined by free humans taking up responsibility to form and maintain a body politic, and to defend it.

That's what legitimacy is about.

Examples? Most of Africa before pseudo-politics held us captive. Have you read about the Peloponnysian war- Athens versus Sparta?

How can one know if a political system is successful or not?


No i have not read that and believe me i wouldn't. I am a present-future kind of guy i study the now and the will be. The "once upon a time" is not as important unless its cyclical in a way.

There are various ways of knowing a political system is successful, "a seemingly contented people" Look around, what has worked out there? I see more of a dictatorship kind of government.


Only you is capable of such a contradictory post without knowing it. Typical of the mass man.

Now you think your opinion is just and true! And even logical! Comparison when your present is the only frame of reference. Sheer blindness.
murchr
#60 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 11:49:53 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Now there's a call for another referendum to be done before an election all in the name of demoncracy....total baloney


This is democracy under a minority, and marionnettes dancing to their fake tunes. Or do you think what happened today was democracy for all?

What makes up a citizen? Birth?


What makes up a citizen? Yes, birth and everything else that the law prescribes. That cannot be democratic, there has to be an autocratic prescribed method for it.

Give me an example of a successful democracy comeon convince me tycho


Am not surprised that you don't know what defines citizenship. You have forgotten that citizenship is defined by free humans taking up responsibility to form and maintain a body politic, and to defend it.

That's what legitimacy is about.

Examples? Most of Africa before pseudo-politics held us captive. Have you read about the Peloponnysian war- Athens versus Sparta?

How can one know if a political system is successful or not?


No i have not read that and believe me i wouldn't. I am a present-future kind of guy i study the now and the will be. The "once upon a time" is not as important unless its cyclical in a way.

There are various ways of knowing a political system is successful, "a seemingly contented people" Look around, what has worked out there? I see more of a dictatorship kind of government.


Only you is capable of such a contradictory post without knowing it. Typical of the mass man.

Now you think your opinion is just and true! And even logical! Comparison when your present is the only frame of reference. Sheer blindness.


My view hasn't changed. Democracy is a fallacy.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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