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Democracy is a Fallacy
murchr
#1 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 12:15:07 AM
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It looks good on paper - All have equal rights, freedom of speech, association, bla bla but in reality there's no perfect world and so its un-relistic to expect this thing called democracy to work esp in a world where the right to freedom of speech can be used stir up unnecessary emotions among the masses.

If i was to advise Uhuru, i'd tell him that its time her created the dirty hand of government. You know something like what Kanyotu had only more sophisticated to clean out the dirty linen. It happens elsewhere in the world.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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symbols
#2 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 12:56:59 AM
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Who would you be advising?
tycho
#3 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 6:11:57 AM
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murchr wrote:
It looks good on paper - All have equal rights, freedom of speech, association, bla bla but in reality there's no perfect world and so its un-relistic to expect this thing called democracy to work esp in a world where the right to freedom of speech can be used stir up unnecessary emotions among the masses.

If i was to advise Uhuru, i'd tell him that its time her created the dirty hand of government. You know something like what Kanyotu had only more sophisticated to clean out the dirty linen. It happens elsewhere in the world.


In what ways did 'Kanyotu politics' work?

How are emotions stirred in such a polity, and to what end?
murchr
#4 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 6:58:01 AM
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tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
It looks good on paper - All have equal rights, freedom of speech, association, bla bla but in reality there's no perfect world and so its un-relistic to expect this thing called democracy to work esp in a world where the right to freedom of speech can be used stir up unnecessary emotions among the masses.

If i was to advise Uhuru, i'd tell him that its time her created the dirty hand of government. You know something like what Kanyotu had only more sophisticated to clean out the dirty linen. It happens elsewhere in the world.


In what ways did 'Kanyotu politics' work?

How are emotions stirred in such a polity, and to what end?


Kanyotu was never in politics, but its evident that during his time, govt was never caught unaware
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma
#5 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 6:58:08 AM
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tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
It looks good on paper - All have equal rights, freedom of speech, association, bla bla but in reality there's no perfect world and so its un-relistic to expect this thing called democracy to work esp in a world where the right to freedom of speech can be used stir up unnecessary emotions among the masses.

If i was to advise Uhuru, i'd tell him that its time her created the dirty hand of government. You know something like what Kanyotu had only more sophisticated to clean out the dirty linen. It happens elsewhere in the world.


In what ways did 'Kanyotu politics' work?

How are emotions stirred in such a polity, and to what end?


This is the problem of watching movies and thinking you have traveled worldwide. Reading Kenya Daily Post and thinking you are a msomi.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
murchr
#6 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 7:08:12 AM
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alma wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
It looks good on paper - All have equal rights, freedom of speech, association, bla bla but in reality there's no perfect world and so its un-relistic to expect this thing called democracy to work esp in a world where the right to freedom of speech can be used stir up unnecessary emotions among the masses.

If i was to advise Uhuru, i'd tell him that its time her created the dirty hand of government. You know something like what Kanyotu had only more sophisticated to clean out the dirty linen. It happens elsewhere in the world.


In what ways did 'Kanyotu politics' work?

How are emotions stirred in such a polity, and to what end?


This is the problem of watching movies and thinking you have traveled worldwide. Reading Kenya Daily Post and thinking you are a msomi.


Alma sometimes you need to engage your brain and leave out your emos....if there was a perfect world then Snowden would still be in America, Bradley Manning would be a general at the US force, and Julian Assange would be allowed to roam London freely but look, in reality the so called freedoms have to be limited.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma
#7 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 7:12:45 AM
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Murchr I will say again....reading Kenya Daily Post and retweeting Moses Kuria is not a sign of well thought out policy.

Can you please expound on Bradley Manning vs a Kenyan who will be arrested in a bar for saying Uhuru is not all that.....Please take your time.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
murchr
#8 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 7:22:39 AM
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alma wrote:
Murchr I will say again....reading Kenya Daily Post and retweeting Moses Kuria is not a sign of well thought out policy.

Can you please expound on Bradley Manning vs a Kenyan who will be arrested in a bar for saying Uhuru is not all that.....Please take your time.


If you want to comment about Moses Kuria, there's a thread dedicated to him. I have no time for the guy and i careless about what he tweets let alone retweet it.

I think the uji you took this morning is yet to power ur thought process once you wake up, re-read what i've posted, if you feel like. Then, we'll engage in a mature discussion.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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quicksand
#9 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 7:23:50 AM
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murchr wrote:
It looks good on paper - All have equal rights, freedom of speech, association, bla bla but in reality there's no perfect world and so its un-relistic to expect this thing called democracy to work esp in a world where the right to freedom of speech can be used stir up unnecessary emotions among the masses.

If i was to advise Uhuru, i'd tell him that its time her created the dirty hand of government. You know something like what Kanyotu had only more sophisticated to clean out the dirty linen. It happens elsewhere in the world.

The alternatives are worse.
Sisi ndio wabaya. The citizens. Corrupt and tribal through and through. You can't expect good leadership from a corrupt populace. Simple.

alma
#10 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2014 7:26:59 AM
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I love uji I hear its very healthy

Glad to see you ain't all that for giving bwana Moses his freedom of expression.

Now lets talk about this dirty department that you want created to muzzle freedom of expression. Tell us more about it. What will be its functions? What will be its modus operandi? Will it buy muzzles for every citizen or use a computer chip to edit out words you don't want to hear before they are spoken by a citizen?

Still waiting on that thesis.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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