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The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant
guru267
#161 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:08:01 PM
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Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Nandwa
#162 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:12:50 PM
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This caliphate nonsense can go on for as long as Kaffir nations and their troops stay away.

If they as much as look that way, the mujahidin will start recoiling and looking for the nearest bunker!
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Nandwa
#163 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:26:22 PM
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How come the self righteous muslims keep running to the west to seek asylum there once they mess up their countries with their warped ideologies intertwined with Islam!

Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
guru267
#164 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:28:19 PM
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Nandwa wrote:

This caliphate nonsense can go on for as long as Kaffir nations and their troops stay away.

If they as much as look that way, the mujahidin will start recoiling and looking for the nearest bunker!


That's what the Soviets thought when they attempted Afghanistan and then Osama showed them what its really like to fight a Muslim!

American soldiers are more traumatised fighting Muslims than they have ever been before!

The crusaders tried for 200 years but nothing doing!

Muhammad said that towards judgment day the whole world will encircle the Mujahideen with superior weapons like a hungry family at the dinner table but they would still lose!

Did you know retreating from Jihad is a huge huge huge sin?? Its either death or victory.. No retreat no surrender!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Nandwa
#165 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:28:33 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Att: Alphadoti

The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'.

Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti.

Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) Laughing out loudly

@ecstacy thank you for the attention. For the last weeks, I've been cris-crossing the country and not had time to watch news. So I'm not able to comment much about this. I think @gurus is well versed at the moment. For now, I'll be getting online to check on your exchanges.

By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim, who is a law abiding citizen. You'll only be required to pay tax, less than 2.5% or there about per year, can you imagine!!! The Muslims already pay 2.5% per year in what we call Zakat and this is a must. So if you compare 2.5% to 30% charged by Capitalist government, Islamic State is way far better.


Only birds can buy that!!!

Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
guru267
#166 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:32:02 PM
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Nandwa wrote:

How come the self righteous muslims keep running to the west to seek asylum there once they mess up their countries with their warped ideologies intertwined with Islam!



So Muslims messed up their countries?? Are you high!?
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#167 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:33:42 PM
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Nandwa wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Att: Alphadoti

The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'.

Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti.

Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) Laughing out loudly

@ecstacy thank you for the attention. For the last weeks, I've been cris-crossing the country and not had time to watch news. So I'm not able to comment much about this. I think @gurus is well versed at the moment. For now, I'll be getting online to check on your exchanges.

By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim, who is a law abiding citizen. You'll only be required to pay tax, less than 2.5% or there about per year, can you imagine!!! The Muslims already pay 2.5% per year in what we call Zakat and this is a must. So if you compare 2.5% to 30% charged by Capitalist government, Islamic State is way far better.


Only birds can buy that!!!



Have you ever studied life under the previous Caliphates or are you just ignorant?!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Nabwire
#168 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:45:07 PM
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Guru and AlphaDoti are so annoying!! You love a Sharia state so much, but you wont go live in Somalia or Iraq! Si muendee huko mukalipe hiyo 2% tax. If running away from Jihad is a sin, si you heed your brother's call and go create a "heaven" Ni domo domo tu, you will never be caught dead in any of those Arab countries coz you know you cherish your freedom. I know Guru your rebuttal will be do you know about mujahideen or you are just ignorant...bla bla bla. I don't need to know about that nonsense, a chance for you guys to live in a heavenly sharia state has availed itself, I wont hold my breathe that you will seize the opportunity!
quicksand
#169 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:25:21 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Nandwa wrote:

How come the self righteous muslims keep running to the west to seek asylum there once they mess up their countries with their warped ideologies intertwined with Islam!



So Muslims messed up their countries?? Are you high!?


They may have not. But many, especially these fighters, are too silly to realize they are pawns, vicious puppets, annihilating each other. They can't rise above it. Meanwhile, the chess-masters sit untouchable, in far away places, with satellites watching, drones and jets patrolling the skies, nuclear missiles at the ready, living air-conditioned, lavish lives.
See, at first, Saddam is installed. Then when his usefulness is all used up, he is removed. Whispers to people not capable of much thought are made ..."you hate these guys! their brand of Islam is different from yours" ...alas more blood is spilled ...those killed counter-kill. No one can sit and reflect and come to the simple conclusion HEY, WE ARE BEING PLAYED,..and hence make peace, tolerate each others differences and beliefs, deal with the world from a common bond of citizenship ....may be that is an oversimplification, and state citizenry is not always a lovy-duvvy affair, but no sir-eeee! These guys can only have differences of the murderous kind,..meanwhile, the oil is still tapped out. In 50 years, as some report I read said, the reserves dry up, the Middle East will dry up first cause they lead in production. Then, THEN, they will realize the world no longer gives a cr**.
guru267
#170 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:02:25 PM
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quicksand wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Nandwa wrote:

How come the self righteous muslims keep running to the west to seek asylum there once they mess up their countries with their warped ideologies intertwined with Islam!



So Muslims messed up their countries?? Are you high!?


They may have not. But many, especially these fighters, are too silly to realize they are pawns, vicious puppets, annihilating each other. They can't rise above it. Meanwhile, the chess-masters sit untouchable, in far away places, with satellites watching, drones and jets patrolling the skies, nuclear missiles at the ready, living air-conditioned, lavish lives.
See, at first, Saddam is installed. Then when his usefulness is all used up, he is removed. Whispers to people not capable of much thought are made ..."you hate these guys! their brand of Islam is different from yours" ...alas more blood is spilled ...those killed counter-kill. No one can sit and reflect and come to the simple conclusion HEY, WE ARE BEING PLAYED,..and hence make peace, tolerate each others differences and beliefs, deal with the world from a common bond of citizenship ....may be that is an oversimplification, and state citizenry is not always a lovy-duvvy affair, but no sir-eeee! These guys can only have differences of the murderous kind,..meanwhile, the oil is still tapped out. In 50 years, as some report I read said, the reserves dry up, the Middle East will dry up first cause they lead in production. Then, THEN, they will realize the world no longer gives a cr**


The problem is that you were not alive when the last Caliphate was being established and you probably are oblivious to history!

So as i said... lets talk in 10 years!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Nandwa
#171 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:26:57 PM
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quicksand wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Nandwa wrote:

How come the self righteous muslims keep running to the west to seek asylum there once they mess up their countries with their warped ideologies intertwined with Islam!



So Muslims messed up their countries?? Are you high!?


They may have not. But many, especially these fighters, are too silly to realize they are pawns, vicious puppets, annihilating each other. They can't rise above it. Meanwhile, the chess-masters sit untouchable, in far away places, with satellites watching, drones and jets patrolling the skies, nuclear missiles at the ready, living air-conditioned, lavish lives.
See, at first, Saddam is installed. Then when his usefulness is all used up, he is removed. Whispers to people not capable of much thought are made ..."you hate these guys! their brand of Islam is different from yours" ...alas more blood is spilled ...those killed counter-kill. No one can sit and reflect and come to the simple conclusion HEY, WE ARE BEING PLAYED,..and hence make peace, tolerate each others differences and beliefs, deal with the world from a common bond of citizenship ....may be that is an oversimplification, and state citizenry is not always a lovy-duvvy affair, but no sir-eeee! These guys can only have differences of the murderous kind,..meanwhile, the oil is still tapped out. In 50 years, as some report I read said, the reserves dry up, the Middle East will dry up first cause they lead in production. Then, THEN, they will realize the world no longer gives a cr**.


There are hordes of Muslims living in UK, Scandinavia, Canada US etc having run away from Somalia, Syria etc on asylum basis.

That aside, who is responsible for the caliphate push in Iraq that is sure to result in Muslims running away from home!!
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Nandwa
#172 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:33:32 PM
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We keep on being assailed on the supposed potency of mujaheedin fighters bla bla bla

How come then that most of their Countries are in a mess, and now the insinuation here is that they didnt do it themselves, it was brought to them!
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Muriel
#173 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47:22 PM
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Nandwa wrote:

We keep on being assailed on the supposed potency of mujaheedin fighters bla bla bla

How come then that most of their Countries are in a mess, and now the insinuation here is that they didnt do it themselves, it was brought to them!


The mess is more political than religious yet it doesn't help as the religion influences the politics.
ecstacy
#174 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:48:01 PM
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guru267 wrote:
quicksand wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Nandwa wrote:

How come the self righteous muslims keep running to the west to seek asylum there once they mess up their countries with their warped ideologies intertwined with Islam!



So Muslims messed up their countries?? Are you high!?


They may have not. But many, especially these fighters, are too silly to realize they are pawns, vicious puppets, annihilating each other. They can't rise above it. Meanwhile, the chess-masters sit untouchable, in far away places, with satellites watching, drones and jets patrolling the skies, nuclear missiles at the ready, living air-conditioned, lavish lives.
See, at first, Saddam is installed. Then when his usefulness is all used up, he is removed. Whispers to people not capable of much thought are made ..."you hate these guys! their brand of Islam is different from yours" ...alas more blood is spilled ...those killed counter-kill. No one can sit and reflect and come to the simple conclusion HEY, WE ARE BEING PLAYED,..and hence make peace, tolerate each others differences and beliefs, deal with the world from a common bond of citizenship ....may be that is an oversimplification, and state citizenry is not always a lovy-duvvy affair, but no sir-eeee! These guys can only have differences of the murderous kind,..meanwhile, the oil is still tapped out. In 50 years, as some report I read said, the reserves dry up, the Middle East will dry up first cause they lead in production. Then, THEN, they will realize the world no longer gives a cr**


The problem is that you were not alive when the last Caliphate was being established and you probably are oblivious to history!

So as i said... lets talk in 10 years!


Meanwhile, let us invest in stocks in the Kenyan caliphate Laughing out loudly
Muriel
#175 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:49:28 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Att: Alphadoti

The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'.

Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti.

Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) Laughing out loudly

@ecstacy thank you for the attention. For the last weeks, I've been cris-crossing the country and not had time to watch news. So I'm not able to comment much about this. I think @gurus is well versed at the moment. For now, I'll be getting online to check on your exchanges.

By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim, who is a law abiding citizen. You'll only be required to pay tax, less than 2.5% or there about per year, can you imagine!!! The Muslims already pay 2.5% per year in what we call Zakat and this is a must. So if you compare 2.5% to 30% charged by Capitalist government, Islamic State is way far better.


Only birds can buy that!!!



Have you ever studied life under the previous Caliphates or are you just ignorant?!


The first caliphate was more accommodating.
AlphDoti
#176 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:22:07 PM
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Nandwa wrote:

We keep on being assailed on the supposed potency of mujaheedin fighters bla bla bla

How come then that most of their Countries are in a mess, and now the insinuation here is that they didnt do it themselves, it was brought to them!

@nandwa how come you don't see the fact that what we have come to know, which we didn't know before is that some of these so called mujaheedin were created by one only one US, then went into the media and portray Muslims as the bad guy? They pick some black-sheep and use them, and turn around and tell the whole world, hey look the bad guys!!

How come you don't see this?
ecstacy
#177 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:06:25 PM
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Saudi Arabia has just deployed 30,000 soldiers to its border with Iraq after Iraqi soldiers withdrew from the area. The world's top oil exporter shares an 500-mile border with Iraq. An officer in the video aired by al-Arabiya said that the Iraqi soldiers had been ordered to quit their posts without justification.
guru267
#178 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:39:45 PM
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Muriel wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Att: Alphadoti

The IS leader has just called on Muslims to travel to Iraq and Syria to help build the 'Islamic state'. He says a move to 'House of Islam' is a duty'.

Ni kusema na kutenda Mister Alphadoti.

Meanwhile, me ('kafir'/'crusader of the cross') & madam Guru (a 'Sunni' Muslim woman) can theorize theorize from relative safety (Nairobi & anywhere but Iraq/Syria) Laughing out loudly

@ecstacy thank you for the attention. For the last weeks, I've been cris-crossing the country and not had time to watch news. So I'm not able to comment much about this. I think @gurus is well versed at the moment. For now, I'll be getting online to check on your exchanges.

By the way, Sharia will not affect anybody who is not Muslim, who is a law abiding citizen. You'll only be required to pay tax, less than 2.5% or there about per year, can you imagine!!! The Muslims already pay 2.5% per year in what we call Zakat and this is a must. So if you compare 2.5% to 30% charged by Capitalist government, Islamic State is way far better.


Only birds can buy that!!!



Have you ever studied life under the previous Caliphates or are you just ignorant?!


The first caliphate was more accommodating.


And so will be the third!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#179 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:18:29 PM
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Muhammad said when the Muslim tyrants fall the final and most beautiful will Caliphate emerge...

But he also Said plenty of Muslim blood would be shed before it comes to pass!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
KulaRaha
#180 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:29:27 PM
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Funny, I have muslim acquaintances who all talk like this, but not one will go there. they'd rather rush to the US or UK LOOOOL. Just yapping and pontificating and pretending to be holy while their eyes wander all over the place.

Hard to trust such double speak.
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