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mnandii
#731 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 8:23:06 AM
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hisah wrote:

.. But they should first target the mortgage market and asset finance. Cheap personal loans should be discouraged since they lead to consumerism expansion which burns KES vs USD and rarely provides any economical gains. Until KE has a strong industrial and agri-econ base, consumerism should be discouraged.

**Obviously for KE to succeed the international bond monies should be well utilized by gok. Otherwise the mess will fry the econ badly.**


Keynesians believe consumption spending is the key to economic growth. And that's where the problem starts coz central banks will encourage consumption even if you have to take a loan to satisfy it.
The culprit to economic growth is the central bank interference.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
Othelo
#732 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 8:24:42 AM
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hisah wrote:


**Obviously for KE to succeed the international bond monies should be well utilized by gok. Otherwise the mess will fry the econ badly.**


For me there lies the elephant in the room. You can do all these nice things but the ultimate use of the funds matter most .... especially what %age goes to sustainable development!

Reduction in corrupt dealings is also key!
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
mwekez@ji
#733 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 10:40:25 AM
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mnandii wrote:
Yes. A promise is a debt so am paying mine.



Above is the long term chart of 91 DAY treasury bills rate (weekly average).
From the 27.204 top to 0.783 low, the rates traced out a clear corrective wave consisting of wave A, then a triangle and then wave C.

Wave C = 0.628% of wave A.
0.628 is just a few from the Golden Ratio 0.618%.

The move from the 0.783 low to 20.799 high is one of two alternatives. It's either a developing impulse wave consisting of waves (i) (ii) i ii. OR it is a simple zigzag pattern. It will take probably a decade for either option to become clear.

Fortunately, we don't have to wait years to make a prediction of rates in the short term since waves are fractal in nature.

The drop from 20.799 to 5.11 low is also in three waves. Below is the blow up..

The rise from 5.11 to 10.498 is impulse and that is the key. Impulse waves determine the direction of the trend.
So after the impulse we have a three wave (zigzag) move back to 8.756.

CONCLUSION:
91 DAY treasury bill rates are expected to continue rising. This is also in line with deflationary pressures affecting the global markets.

When treasury rates rise, the prices fall.

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Conventional analysts who have not studied the Great Depression or who expect bonds to move 'contra-cyclically' to stocks are going to be shocked to see their bonds plummeting in value right along with the stock market. Ironically, economists will see the first wave down in bonds (and first wave up in rates) as a sign of inflation and recovery, when in fact, it will be the opposite.

Conquer The Crash, Pg 145.

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As debt prices fall, yields rise. If you are in long term bonds, you're stuck with only the 'falling prices' part of the equation. It's better to own short term instruments, which can keep rolling over at ever-higher yields to compensate substantially for price losses. So, generally speaking, for safety, it is better to own high-quality short-term debt than long-term debt.

Conquer The crash, Pg 150.

Best to all.


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mwekez@ji
#734 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 10:42:24 AM
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FRM2011 on Friday, June 20, 2014 4:56:31 AM wrote:

Morning wazuans,

Would someone kindly explain the huge jump in yesterday's 91-day t bill auction. From 9.275% to 10.25%.


And this week up again from the 10.250% to 11.438%

https://centralbank.go.ke/images...20dated%2030.06.2014.pdf
hisah
#735 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 11:37:33 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
FRM2011 on Friday, June 20, 2014 4:56:31 AM wrote:

Morning wazuans,

Would someone kindly explain the huge jump in yesterday's 91-day t bill auction. From 9.275% to 10.25%.


And this week up again from the 10.250% to 11.438%

https://centralbank.go.ke/images...20dated%2030.06.2014.pdf

Oh my!?! Past 11% which I thought would take a few weeks to break?!

@kizee1 - What the heck is happening in the liquidity dark pools?
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#736 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 12:05:53 PM
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Could be a rush to get high yielding paper before the low interest regime comes, hopefully from 8th of next month when MPC meets. Don't ask me how.It confounds experts. More like kusema na kuTendersmile
It also happened in Dec 2011 when some competitive bids were filled at or about 25%.
#AndThenThe Fall
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mnandii
#737 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 2:18:43 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Could be a rush to get high yielding paper before the low interest regime comes, hopefully from 8th of next month when MPC meets. Don't ask me how.I confounds experts. More like kusema na kuTendersmile
It also happened in Dec 2011 when some competitive bids were filled at or about 25%.
#AndThenThe Fall

I fail to understand why we shld expect low interest soon. My take is that we are mixing two important issues.

The bond was successful. And that is all there is to it. We have the money.

But why shld we expect the money to suddenly create a low interest regime. Even considering the projects that the money should go to, they take years to be completed. And when complete there is no assurance that the returns will march the expected cost of the bonds.

With the bond money we are now assuming that everything is going to work like clockwork and lead to low interest rates.

My take is that we are in high interest regime ( as even shown with the huge rises in 91 Day rates the past few weeks). And this regime is here for a good part of this year and next.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mnandii
#738 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 2:23:00 PM
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http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/...-sh650m-33km-tarmac-road

A tarmac road which the National Gov. had said would cost 1.6 BILLION to build has been built at 650 MILLION and in 3 months!
There is waste everywhere in Govmnt. And don't expect the attitude to change soon.
That is the fate awaiting awaiting your bond money.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mkonomtupu
#739 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 2:51:24 PM
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mnandii wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Could be a rush to get high yielding paper before the low interest regime comes, hopefully from 8th of next month when MPC meets. Don't ask me how.I confounds experts. More like kusema na kuTendersmile
It also happened in Dec 2011 when some competitive bids were filled at or about 25%.
#AndThenThe Fall

I fail to understand why we shld expect low interest soon. My take is that we are mixing two important issues.

The bond was successful. And that is all there is to it. We have the money.

But why shld we expect the money to suddenly create a low interest regime. Even considering the projects that the money should go to, they take years to be completed. And when complete there is no assurance that the returns will march the expected cost of the bonds.

With the bond money we are now assuming that everything is going to work like clockwork and lead to low interest rates.

My take is that we are in high interest regime ( as even shown with the huge rises in 91 Day rates the past few weeks). And this regime is here for a good part of this year and next.

Applause Applause Applause Applause what a way to put it. Here is what we are planning to use the eurobond for
1.The Nairobi urban commuter railway
2.The dredging of the Lamu Port
3.Galana irrigation project
4.Energy Sector
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#740 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 3:17:03 PM
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mnandii wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Could be a rush to get high yielding paper before the low interest regime comes, hopefully from 8th of next month when MPC meets. Don't ask me how.I confounds experts. More like kusema na kuTendersmile
It also happened in Dec 2011 when some competitive bids were filled at or about 25%.
#AndThenThe Fall

I fail to understand why we shld expect low interest soon. My take is that we are mixing two important issues.

The bond was successful. And that is all there is to it. We have the money.

But why shld we expect the money to suddenly create a low interest regime. Even considering the projects that the money should go to, they take years to be completed. And when complete there is no assurance that the returns will march the expected cost of the bonds.

With the bond money we are now assuming that everything is going to work like clockwork and lead to low interest rates.

My take is that we are in high interest regime ( as even shown with the huge rises in 91 Day rates the past few weeks). And this regime is here for a good part of this year and next.

I fear what you have said could be true judging by the results of the last 2 auctions. Someone somewhere is making some real money. With the difference between cbr and 91 day paper at almost 3%, i wonder what will make the banksters lend mwananchi money.
No wonder the oversubscription. Seems like we are headed back to the Moiconomics days.
#WhereIsKibakinomics
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