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masukuma
#61 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 12:18:14 PM
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maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
What will the use of those street lights in soem part of the remote section of the road?
Does the road have any appreciable traffic late in the night?
Those cameras are to record who? Do the cameras night night vision technology?
I look at the road and just laughed. The elevation of the road is below the immediate surrounding land, no culverts, no shoulders...
You cant even even compare the road to say Eastern bypass...
it looks like tarmac was spread on top of loom soil.

I think its better than nothing...tutakuwa papa hapa unless God calls us home...we will get to see how long the road will will last...Eating or no eating he is miles ahead as compared to other governor's ...quick one are counties allowed to invest their cash like in other jurisdictions?e.g UK council's had invested in Iceland banks...

my thinking exactly! build roads like these.... in 3 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months. People would have accruded the benefits of these roads many time over than waiting for the day we have thika road quality roads in their place. believe me the people using that route are happy with a substandard road today than an international quality road in 10 years.
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Impunity
#62 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 12:31:55 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Impunity wrote:
What will the use of those street lights in soem part of the remote section of the road?
Does the road have any appreciable traffic late in the night?
Those cameras are to record who? Do the cameras night night vision technology?
I look at the road and just laughed. The elevation of the road is below the immediate surrounding land, no culverts, no shoulders...
You cant even even compare the road to say Eastern bypass...
it looks like tarmac was spread on top of loom soil.

If you are truly a qualified engineer as you are wont of posturing, you would have realized the less-than-40km Eastern Bypass is a 4 Billion highway! There is no way you can begin comparing a 600m road to such. These graduatesSad


Then why the hullabaloo about @Mutua opening a "road"? This should have been something like "@Mutua has opened some rural access road to some chicken market"

That is not a road by any standard, its a shame to cheat even the "learned wazuans" that a road has been made somewhere in machakos.... a fake.
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dunkang
#63 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 12:32:30 PM
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Impunity wrote:
What will the use of those street lights in soem part of the remote section of the road?
Does the road have any appreciable traffic late in the night?
Those cameras are to record who? Do the cameras night night vision technology?
I look at the road and just laughed. The elevation of the road is below the immediate surrounding land, no culverts, no shoulders...
You cant even even compare the road to say Eastern bypass...
it looks like tarmac was spread on top of loom soil.


1. On street lights on the entire 33km strech, that is wastage!

2. On cameras along the entire 33km stretch, that is even more laughable!

3. On the design of the road, i can't comment until i go through the entire route, which i highly doubt you did.

Take note, the road in question is the C100 (from google earth). It joins the A3 (Thika-Garissa-Liboi Road) and the C97(Kyumvi-Machakos-Kitui Road).

Also, this is not a new road. NO. It existed but not to TARMACKED! So, most probably, the stormwater drainage system was in place. How many murram roads do you see around you with culverts etc but not tarmacked!

On the issue of road been lower than the surrounding area, that exactly proves that you are just an armchair "analyst". In road designs, there are things called, ROAD GEOMETRICS, vertical and horizontal! and involve both cuts and fills!

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Impunity
#64 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 12:40:46 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Impunity wrote:
What will the use of those street lights in soem part of the remote section of the road?
Does the road have any appreciable traffic late in the night?
Those cameras are to record who? Do the cameras night night vision technology?
I look at the road and just laughed. The elevation of the road is below the immediate surrounding land, no culverts, no shoulders...
You cant even even compare the road to say Eastern bypass...
it looks like tarmac was spread on top of loom soil.


1. On street lights on the entire 33km strech, that is wastage!

2. On cameras along the entire 33km stretch, that is even more laughable!

3. On the design of the road, i can't comment until i go through the entire route, which i highly doubt you did.

Take note, the road in question is the C100 (from google earth). It joins the A3 (Thika-Garissa-Liboi Road) and the C97(Kyumvi-Machakos-Kitui Road).

Also, this is not a new road. NO. It existed but not to TARMACKED! So, most probably, the stormwater drainage system was in place. How many murram roads do you see around you with culverts etc but not tarmacked!

On the issue of road been lower than the surrounding area, that exactly proves that you are just an armchair "analyst". In road designs, there are things called, ROAD GEOMETRICS, vertical and horizontal! and involve both cuts and fills!

First Class Engineering indeed!


A few months from now you will eat your words and I will humbly remind you.
Ni hayo tu.

ION: Its difficult arguing with people who graduated with degree in French-language from KU.
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dunkang
#65 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 12:45:44 PM
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Joined: 6/2/2011
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Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
Impunity wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Impunity wrote:
What will the use of those street lights in soem part of the remote section of the road?
Does the road have any appreciable traffic late in the night?
Those cameras are to record who? Do the cameras night night vision technology?
I look at the road and just laughed. The elevation of the road is below the immediate surrounding land, no culverts, no shoulders...
You cant even even compare the road to say Eastern bypass...
it looks like tarmac was spread on top of loom soil.


1. On street lights on the entire 33km strech, that is wastage!

2. On cameras along the entire 33km stretch, that is even more laughable!

3. On the design of the road, i can't comment until i go through the entire route, which i highly doubt you did.

Take note, the road in question is the C100 (from google earth). It joins the A3 (Thika-Garissa-Liboi Road) and the C97(Kyumvi-Machakos-Kitui Road).

Also, this is not a new road. NO. It existed but not to TARMACKED! So, most probably, the stormwater drainage system was in place. How many murram roads do you see around you with culverts etc but not tarmacked!

On the issue of road been lower than the surrounding area, that exactly proves that you are just an armchair "analyst". In road designs, there are things called, ROAD GEOMETRICS, vertical and horizontal! and involve both cuts and fills!

First Class Engineering indeed!


A few months from now you will eat your words and I will humbly remind you.
Ni hayo tu.

ION: Its difficult arguing with people who graduated with degree in French-language from KU.

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Kaigangio
#66 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 12:52:28 PM
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Joined: 2/27/2007
Posts: 2,768
masukuma wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
What will the use of those street lights in soem part of the remote section of the road?
Does the road have any appreciable traffic late in the night?
Those cameras are to record who? Do the cameras night night vision technology?
I look at the road and just laughed. The elevation of the road is below the immediate surrounding land, no culverts, no shoulders...
You cant even even compare the road to say Eastern bypass...
it looks like tarmac was spread on top of loom soil.

I think its better than nothing...tutakuwa papa hapa unless God calls us home...we will get to see how long the road will will last...Eating or no eating he is miles ahead as compared to other governor's ...quick one are counties allowed to invest their cash like in other jurisdictions?e.g UK council's had invested in Iceland banks...

my thinking exactly! build roads like these.... in 3 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months. People would have accruded the benefits of these roads many time over than waiting for the day we have thika road quality roads in their place. believe me the people using that route are happy with a substandard road today than an international quality road in 10 years.


@ masukuma

From the little economics that i know, a service is not economically viable if the maintenance costs are on the extreme side in the short to medium term...eg build a road for khs 650m and spend ksh 150m annually on maintenance..Yes! No!
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Othelo
#67 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 12:54:52 PM
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Joined: 1/20/2014
Posts: 3,528
Kaigangio wrote:
masukuma wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
What will the use of those street lights in soem part of the remote section of the road?
Does the road have any appreciable traffic late in the night?
Those cameras are to record who? Do the cameras night night vision technology?
I look at the road and just laughed. The elevation of the road is below the immediate surrounding land, no culverts, no shoulders...
You cant even even compare the road to say Eastern bypass...
it looks like tarmac was spread on top of loom soil.

I think its better than nothing...tutakuwa papa hapa unless God calls us home...we will get to see how long the road will will last...Eating or no eating he is miles ahead as compared to other governor's ...quick one are counties allowed to invest their cash like in other jurisdictions?e.g UK council's had invested in Iceland banks...

my thinking exactly! build roads like these.... in 3 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months. People would have accruded the benefits of these roads many time over than waiting for the day we have thika road quality roads in their place. believe me the people using that route are happy with a substandard road today than an international quality road in 10 years.


@ masukuma

From the little economics that i know, a service is not economically viable if the maintenance costs are on the extreme side in the short to medium term...eg build a road for khs 650m and spend ksh 150m annually on maintenance..Yes! No!

This is africaeconomics ops machaeconomics. Personally i have a wait and see attitude. I would neither complement nor mock
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Impunity
#68 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 12:58:14 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,335
Location: Masada
Kaigangio wrote:
masukuma wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
What will the use of those street lights in soem part of the remote section of the road?
Does the road have any appreciable traffic late in the night?
Those cameras are to record who? Do the cameras night night vision technology?
I look at the road and just laughed. The elevation of the road is below the immediate surrounding land, no culverts, no shoulders...
You cant even even compare the road to say Eastern bypass...
it looks like tarmac was spread on top of loom soil.

I think its better than nothing...tutakuwa papa hapa unless God calls us home...we will get to see how long the road will will last...Eating or no eating he is miles ahead as compared to other governor's ...quick one are counties allowed to invest their cash like in other jurisdictions?e.g UK council's had invested in Iceland banks...

my thinking exactly! build roads like these.... in 3 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months. People would have accruded the benefits of these roads many time over than waiting for the day we have thika road quality roads in their place. believe me the people using that route are happy with a substandard road today than an international quality road in 10 years.


@ masukuma

From the little economics that i know, a service is not economically viable if the maintenance costs are on the extreme side in the short to medium term...eg build a road for khs 650m and spend ksh 150m annually on maintenance..Yes! No!


You are trying to argue with Art graduates? You are in for a BIG headache; you would rather try milking a hen.
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marko
#69 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 1:04:35 PM
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Joined: 1/7/2007
Posts: 838
Kaigangio wrote:
masukuma wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
What will the use of those street lights in soem part of the remote section of the road?
Does the road have any appreciable traffic late in the night?
Those cameras are to record who? Do the cameras night night vision technology?
I look at the road and just laughed. The elevation of the road is below the immediate surrounding land, no culverts, no shoulders...
You cant even even compare the road to say Eastern bypass...
it looks like tarmac was spread on top of loom soil.

I think its better than nothing...tutakuwa papa hapa unless God calls us home...we will get to see how long the road will will last...Eating or no eating he is miles ahead as compared to other governor's ...quick one are counties allowed to invest their cash like in other jurisdictions?e.g UK council's had invested in Iceland banks...

my thinking exactly! build roads like these.... in 3 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months. People would have accruded the benefits of these roads many time over than waiting for the day we have thika road quality roads in their place. believe me the people using that route are happy with a substandard road today than an international quality road in 10 years.


@ masukuma

From the little economics that i know, a service is not economically viable if the maintenance costs are on the extreme side in the short to medium term...eg build a road for khs 650m and spend ksh 150m annually on maintenance..Yes! No!


Potato Potaeto Tomato Tomaeto. All this noise is horrendous.

How about the fact that that tarmac road has been an election promise for as long as Kenya has been independent?

How about the fact that for once Machakos residents will use a road without having to pull their cars and buses from the mud when it rains?

That is all the people of Machakos see. The road Mutua built for them. You sitting in Nairobi criticising that wont matter a hoot to them. Or you will take a Machakos vote to go vote him out?
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masukuma
#70 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 1:09:43 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
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Kaigangio wrote:
masukuma wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
What will the use of those street lights in soem part of the remote section of the road?
Does the road have any appreciable traffic late in the night?
Those cameras are to record who? Do the cameras night night vision technology?
I look at the road and just laughed. The elevation of the road is below the immediate surrounding land, no culverts, no shoulders...
You cant even even compare the road to say Eastern bypass...
it looks like tarmac was spread on top of loom soil.

I think its better than nothing...tutakuwa papa hapa unless God calls us home...we will get to see how long the road will will last...Eating or no eating he is miles ahead as compared to other governor's ...quick one are counties allowed to invest their cash like in other jurisdictions?e.g UK council's had invested in Iceland banks...

my thinking exactly! build roads like these.... in 3 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months.... recarpet them in another 6-9 months. People would have accruded the benefits of these roads many time over than waiting for the day we have thika road quality roads in their place. believe me the people using that route are happy with a substandard road today than an international quality road in 10 years.


@ masukuma

From the little economics that i know, a service is not economically viable if the maintenance costs are on the extreme side in the short to medium term...eg build a road for khs 650m and spend ksh 150m annually on maintenance..Yes! No!

not sure about the figures but let's say they are correct, the alternative is to keep waiting for 5-10 years to get a road. Weka barabara.... weka tena. Government is not into 'saving' - patia local contractors kazi... tax them again and again. That is the big picture.
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