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Boris Boyka
#721 Posted : Wednesday, June 25, 2014 1:06:32 PM
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The president live from state house on Eurobond!!
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Museveni
#722 Posted : Wednesday, June 25, 2014 1:50:21 PM
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Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
mkonomtupu
#723 Posted : Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:18:53 PM
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Uhuru needs to realize that the local interest rates will not come down until he deals with the budget deficit and comes up with a credible policy of budgetary restraint. His tax and spend policy will cripple the private sector and increase inflation.
hisah
#724 Posted : Wednesday, June 25, 2014 6:22:30 PM
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Eurobond, Sukuk and Sovereign Wealth Funds will indeed put the bankers in a tight corner when the lending squeeze comes. And it is coming soon! The lending rates will definitely head below 10%.

http://bit.ly/1pB6uAA
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mnandii
#725 Posted : Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:59:05 AM
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My take. From Elliott Wave and Socionomic perspective:
The success of the Euro Bond occurs at a very interesting juncture. In Kenya we are celebrating, yet celebration of success occur at market tops (which is the case with NSE 20 index). Going forward i expect the dramatic fall I have been predicting to occur (mind you, we may have an interim rally but overall the market is headed lower. by end of 2014 NSe may be printing levels people here cannot fathom at the moment).

I expect bond rates to rise (in line with the chart I posted in a previous post).

Global equities are at an interesting turn. The US contracted by 3% in a previous quarter. Means the forces of deflation are taking over. a dramatic fall in DJIA is in the cards quite soon.

Gold (and commodities in general) should drop too.

Pessimistic? Yes. But the market follows the path of the waves which is human psychology in action.

NB: Don't kill the messenger.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mkonomtupu
#726 Posted : Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:59:57 PM
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[/quote=hisah]Eurobond, Sukuk and Sovereign Wealth Funds will indeed put the bankers in a tight corner when the lending squeeze comes. And it is coming soon! The lending rates will definitely head below 10%.

http://bit.ly/1pB6uAA[/quote]

@hisah not so fast, looks like the bubble is building up on junk bonds
http://www.nzherald.co.n...3&objectid=11266834

That does not mean that Kenya's fundamentals have improved. This article is more balanced and to the point

http://www.the-star.co.k...ess-comes-immense-risks
mkonomtupu
#727 Posted : Thursday, June 26, 2014 3:12:08 PM
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Fears are mounting of a potential bubble in the high-yield bond market, where a rash of new buyers has pushed prices close to record highs, despite worries over market liquidity.
Mainstream investors have flocked to what was once an esoteric asset class as the “hunt for yield” has intensified amid ultra-low interest rates.

http://www.ft.com/intl/c...-b923-00144feabdc0.html

Quote:
“We have become extremely nervous about this area. There has been a huge stampede into this new asset class, where current prices do not fairly reflect the underlying credit risk and liquidity risk attached,” he said.
Mr Miller said he was aware of at least three US investment banks that had allocations of 5-10 per cent to high-yield bonds in the model portfolios they construct for clients, a figure he believed would have been zero just five to 10 years ago.....“Investors seem to have forgotten that these bonds once had default rates of 20 per cent plus.”
hisah
#728 Posted : Thursday, June 26, 2014 4:47:57 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
[/quote=hisah]Eurobond, Sukuk and Sovereign Wealth Funds will indeed put the bankers in a tight corner when the lending squeeze comes. And it is coming soon! The lending rates will definitely head below 10%.

http://bit.ly/1pB6uAA[/quote]

@hisah not so fast, looks like the bubble is building up on junk bonds
http://www.nzherald.co.n...3&objectid=11266834

That does not mean that Kenya's fundamentals have improved. This article is more balanced and to the point

http://www.the-star.co.k...ess-comes-immense-risks

Definitely this won't happen over night.
And yes, junk bond market is in a boiler room waiting to release the pressure valve.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#729 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 7:22:43 AM
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Interesting to see KE treasury talk of diversification on the international bond market. The islamic (sukuk) bond market offers a good ground for stability. Also the asian bond (samurai - yen based) has plenty to offer. Though I don't see any mention about dim sum (asian - yuan based) bonds. Treasury should also go for the dim sum bonds which is now growing and has plenty to offer. A lot of chingland interest is in KE anyway e.g. A dim sum bond for LAPSSET to raise those KES trillions.

This way KE diversifies the FX risks and is a better way to guard against KES weakness than CBK flooding the market all the time with USD - a short term and expensive remedy.

Once gok has floats in eurobond, sukuk, samurai and dim sum markets, local firms can also find it easier to issue bonds on the same. This will take the punch bowl for the local banks and lead to lending rates dipping as the lending market re-adjusts.

If the above is implemented nicely, single digit lending rates will show up in KE. But they should first target the mortgage market and asset finance. Cheap personal loans should be discouraged since they lead to consumerism expansion which burns KES vs USD and rarely provides any economical gains. Until KE has a strong industrial and agri-econ base, consumerism should be discouraged.

**Obviously for KE to succeed the international bond monies should be well utilized by gok. Otherwise the mess will fry the econ badly.**
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mnandii
#730 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2014 8:14:02 AM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
Quote:
Fears are mounting of a potential bubble in the high-yield bond market, where a rash of new buyers has pushed prices close to record highs, despite worries over market liquidity.
Mainstream investors have flocked to what was once an esoteric asset class as the “hunt for yield” has intensified amid ultra-low interest rates.

http://www.ft.com/intl/c...-b923-00144feabdc0.html

Quote:
“We have become extremely nervous about this area. There has been a huge stampede into this new asset class, where current prices do not fairly reflect the underlying credit risk and liquidity risk attached,” he said.
Mr Miller said he was aware of at least three US investment banks that had allocations of 5-10 per cent to high-yield bonds in the model portfolios they construct for clients, a figure he believed would have been zero just five to 10 years ago.....“Investors seem to have forgotten that these bonds once had default rates of 20 per cent plus.”

Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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