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ecstacy wrote:Like the Iraqi Govt, the Kurds have also asked for Western air support against ISIS as they hold out their positions in an uneasy calm. ISIS have armed up using US weapons left by fleeing Irqai forces - Putin offers ‘complete support’ to Iraq, Iran says Obama lacks will to combat terrorismYou would think it's a bad cop good cop routine.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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guru267 wrote:Muriel wrote:It will be most helpful to identify this "beast" and his "mark". The secular world has made religion a worthless entity! The constitution and the UN Charter are superior to any Word of God in todays world! That is why the US cannot stand to see a Sharia state in existence  We all know in our Qurans and Bibles what God did to Sodom and Gomora and why... but today we all push for homosexuals to adopt children because the holy books are just fables anyway right?? A time will reach when it will be seen that the world is better off without any religion and then it will be you either give up your religion or you die or are jailed! Anyone practicing a religion and praying to a fictitious God in the sky will not be allowed to buy or sell! A Godless society! At that point you will know who is the "beast" and what is the "mark"! Trying to avoid the issue?Neither you nor @AlphDoti have denied or questioned the authenticity of the book or author. Ibn Kathir clearly states that the beast will come to mark both the unbelievers and the believers on their foreheads and no one will be able to escape by decree of Allah.It seems you're declaring God in the Bible and Allah are not the same!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:murchr wrote:In this day and age its not easy for a useless militia to comeup and get to this kind of sophistication without the govts watch and aid. The question should be who's supplying them with this kind of artillery? ISIS in Iraq stinks of CIA/NATO ‘dirty war’ op Man all these conspiracy theories are priceless!  @symbols are you really this gullible?? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:Ibn Kathir clearly states that the beast will come to mark both the unbelievers and the believers on their foreheads and no one will be able to escape by decree of Allah.It seems you're declaring God in the Bible and Allah are not the same!
I find it impossible to respond to your naive understanding of Islam! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:murchr wrote:In this day and age its not easy for a useless militia to comeup and get to this kind of sophistication without the govts watch and aid. The question should be who's supplying them with this kind of artillery? ISIS in Iraq stinks of CIA/NATO ‘dirty war’ op Man all these conspiracy theories are priceless! @symbols are you really this gullible?? Distractions?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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guru267 wrote:
@Muriel at that time one will either be Muslim or would have accepted the mark of the beast to prove they are not Muslim!
guru267 wrote:The secular world has made religion a worthless entity! The constitution and the UN Charter are superior to any Word of God in todays world! That is why the US cannot stand to see a Sharia state in existence We all know in our Qurans and Bibles what God did to Sodom and Gomora and why... but today we all push for homosexuals to adopt children because the holy books are just fables anyway right?? A time will reach when it will be seen that the world is better off without any religion and then it will be you either give up your religion or you die or are jailed! Anyone practicing a religion and praying to a fictitious God in the sky will not be allowed to buy or sell!
A Godless society! At that point you will know who is the "beast" and what is the "mark"! guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:Ibn Kathir clearly states that the beast will come to mark both the unbelievers and the believers on their foreheads and no one will be able to escape by decree of Allah.It seems you're declaring God in the Bible and Allah are not the same!
I find it impossible to respond to your naive understanding of Islam! You've already stated your position and have done nothing to address what I've said.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:
@Muriel at that time one will either be Muslim or would have accepted the mark of the beast to prove they are not Muslim!
guru267 wrote:The secular world has made religion a worthless entity! The constitution and the UN Charter are superior to any Word of God in todays world! That is why the US cannot stand to see a Sharia state in existence We all know in our Qurans and Bibles what God did to Sodom and Gomora and why... but today we all push for homosexuals to adopt children because the holy books are just fables anyway right?? A time will reach when it will be seen that the world is better off without any religion and then it will be you either give up your religion or you die or are jailed! Anyone practicing a religion and praying to a fictitious God in the sky will not be allowed to buy or sell!
A Godless society! At that point you will know who is the "beast" and what is the "mark"! guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:Ibn Kathir clearly states that the beast will come to mark both the unbelievers and the believers on their foreheads and no one will be able to escape by decree of Allah.It seems you're declaring God in the Bible and Allah are not the same!
I find it impossible to respond to your naive understanding of Islam! You've already stated your position and have done nothing to address what I've said. Many believers and unbelievers will accept the mark of the beast or be killed! Nothing happens in this world except by Gods permission... Even Satan tempting you! What was your question again?? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:
@Muriel at that time one will either be Muslim or would have accepted the mark of the beast to prove they are not Muslim!
guru267 wrote:The secular world has made religion a worthless entity! The constitution and the UN Charter are superior to any Word of God in todays world! That is why the US cannot stand to see a Sharia state in existence We all know in our Qurans and Bibles what God did to Sodom and Gomora and why... but today we all push for homosexuals to adopt children because the holy books are just fables anyway right?? A time will reach when it will be seen that the world is better off without any religion and then it will be you either give up your religion or you die or are jailed! Anyone practicing a religion and praying to a fictitious God in the sky will not be allowed to buy or sell!
A Godless society! At that point you will know who is the "beast" and what is the "mark"! guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:Ibn Kathir clearly states that the beast will come to mark both the unbelievers and the believers on their foreheads and no one will be able to escape by decree of Allah.It seems you're declaring God in the Bible and Allah are not the same!
I find it impossible to respond to your naive understanding of Islam! You've already stated your position and have done nothing to address what I've said. Many believers and unbelievers will accept the mark of the beast or be killed! Nothing happens in this world except by Gods permission... Even Satan tempting you! What was your question again?? My question was: It seems there is an ironical increasing "Godfullness" in various shades, shapes and sizes as time goes. So how will there be "Godlessness" at the time of the beast gives people his mark? And that statement "Many believers and unbelievers will accept the mark of the beast or be killed!" is giving me hard time to understand. Break it down for me. Will Muslims (believers) accept the mark of the beast or will they be killed?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:murchr wrote:In this day and age its not easy for a useless militia to comeup and get to this kind of sophistication without the govts watch and aid. The question should be who's supplying them with this kind of artillery? ISIS in Iraq stinks of CIA/NATO ‘dirty war’ op Man all these conspiracy theories are priceless! @symbols are you really this gullible?? Fact. The rebels in Syria are being supported by the west, no? They are being given, lately, hardware. Who are the rebels in Syria? ISIS?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:
@Muriel at that time one will either be Muslim or would have accepted the mark of the beast to prove they are not Muslim!
guru267 wrote:The secular world has made religion a worthless entity! The constitution and the UN Charter are superior to any Word of God in todays world! That is why the US cannot stand to see a Sharia state in existence We all know in our Qurans and Bibles what God did to Sodom and Gomora and why... but today we all push for homosexuals to adopt children because the holy books are just fables anyway right?? A time will reach when it will be seen that the world is better off without any religion and then it will be you either give up your religion or you die or are jailed! Anyone practicing a religion and praying to a fictitious God in the sky will not be allowed to buy or sell!
A Godless society! At that point you will know who is the "beast" and what is the "mark"! guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:Ibn Kathir clearly states that the beast will come to mark both the unbelievers and the believers on their foreheads and no one will be able to escape by decree of Allah.It seems you're declaring God in the Bible and Allah are not the same!
I find it impossible to respond to your naive understanding of Islam! You've already stated your position and have done nothing to address what I've said. Many believers and unbelievers will accept the mark of the beast or be killed! Nothing happens in this world except by Gods permission... Even Satan tempting you! What was your question again?? Do you have a link to authentic Islamic sources for what you've said concerning the beast and the mark?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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In the past 24hrs:
- Reports that Iranian (Shia) drones targeting ISIS positions in Iraq
- Confirmation that Syrian (Alawaites) planes also did the bombing on ISIS positions inside Iraq, without the permission of Iraq but Iraq is 'grateful'.
- Jordan's army has also taken position on the Jordanian side at the Iraq-Jordan border crossing that ISIS took this week.
- In Syria itself, the rebel FSA is also fighting them.
- Inside Baghdad hundreds of Shia men signing up into the army for the fight.
ISIS like Hitler, may have taken on far too many enemies.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/30/2013 Posts: 659
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ecstacy wrote:In the past 24hrs:
- Reports that Iranian (Shia) drones targeting ISIS positions in Iraq
- Confirmation that Syrian (Alawaites) planes also did the bombing on ISIS positions inside Iraq, without the permission of Iraq but Iraq is 'grateful'.
- Jordan's army has also taken position on the Jordanian side at the Iraq-Jordan border crossing that ISIS took this week.
- In Syria itself, the rebel FSA is also fighting them.
- Inside Baghdad hundreds of Shia men signing up into the army for the fight.
ISIS like Hitler, may have taken on far too many enemies. The enmity was compounded when they chose to attack Iraq giving confirmation to the rumours that they are Sunni jihadist funded by Saudi. If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Thousands of Shia Muslims in India have volunteered to go to Iraq to protect Shia holy shrines and provide humanitarian aid.
Over 20,000 people – ranging from engineers to students and police officers – have already signed up for the task and filled out documents for visas to Iraq
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:Thousands of Shia Muslims in India have volunteered to go to Iraq to protect Shia holy shrines and provide humanitarian aid.
Over 20,000 people – ranging from engineers to students and police officers – have already signed up for the task and filled out documents for visas to Iraq Shiites love their life too much.. So even 100,000 Shiites cannot touch 10,000 ISIS who are begging for "martyrdom"! And when it comes to numbers we are talking 1.6 Billion Sunnis vs 100 Million Shiites! You are talking about Indians when people are flocking to ISIS from the whole globe! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:Thousands of Shia Muslims in India have volunteered to go to Iraq to protect Shia holy shrines and provide humanitarian aid.
Over 20,000 people – ranging from engineers to students and police officers – have already signed up for the task and filled out documents for visas to Iraq Shiites love their life too much.. So even 100,000 Shiites cannot touch 10,000 ISIS who are begging for "martyrdom"! And when it comes to numbers we are talking 1.6 Billion Sunnis vs 100 Million Shiites! You are talking about Indians when people are flocking to ISIS from the whole globe! Cut the hyperbole. These are the stats. 4,000 ISIS foreign fighters from Chechnya, Bahrain, Tunisia, Algeria, Britain and France. Vs 10,000 Shia from India ALONE. HAHA! I confirm you sympathize with ISIS. That much vaunted march to Baghdad has been halted eh? 300 US Special Forces with immunity from prosecution are now operating in Iraq. Iran, Iraq, US, Jordan and Syria will do their Harambee bombing. ISIS is at it's peak. Downhill from here.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:Thousands of Shia Muslims in India have volunteered to go to Iraq to protect Shia holy shrines and provide humanitarian aid.
Over 20,000 people – ranging from engineers to students and police officers – have already signed up for the task and filled out documents for visas to Iraq Shiites love their life too much.. So even 100,000 Shiites cannot touch 10,000 ISIS who are begging for "martyrdom"! And when it comes to numbers we are talking 1.6 Billion Sunnis vs 100 Million Shiites! You are talking about Indians when people are flocking to ISIS from the whole globe! Cut the hyperbole. These are the stats. 4,000 ISIS foreign fighters from Chechnya, Bahrain, Tunisia, Algeria, Britain and France. Vs 10,000 Shia from India ALONE. HAHA! I confirm you sympathize with ISIS. That much vaunted march to Baghdad has been halted eh? 300 US Special Forces with immunity from prosecution are now operating in Iraq. Iran, Iraq, US, Jordan and Syria will do their Harambee bombing. ISIS is at it's peak. Downhill from here. @ectsacy 30,000 American trained Iraqi forces fled from only 800 ISIS.. Those 10,000 Indian farmers and houseboys mean nothing to ISIS and they will most likely also shit their pants when they see the black flags approaching! ISIS know they may be crushed... They have no delusions about that! Crushing Al Qaeda in Iraq yielded ISIS... What will crushing ISIS yield?? I heard some news channel saying Al Baghdadi may end up being worse than Bin Laden to the Americans! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:Thousands of Shia Muslims in India have volunteered to go to Iraq to protect Shia holy shrines and provide humanitarian aid.
Over 20,000 people – ranging from engineers to students and police officers – have already signed up for the task and filled out documents for visas to Iraq Shiites love their life too much.. So even 100,000 Shiites cannot touch 10,000 ISIS who are begging for "martyrdom"! And when it comes to numbers we are talking 1.6 Billion Sunnis vs 100 Million Shiites! You are talking about Indians when people are flocking to ISIS from the whole globe! Cut the hyperbole. These are the stats. 4,000 ISIS foreign fighters from Chechnya, Bahrain, Tunisia, Algeria, Britain and France. Vs 10,000 Shia from India ALONE. HAHA! I confirm you sympathize with ISIS. That much vaunted march to Baghdad has been halted eh? 300 US Special Forces with immunity from prosecution are now operating in Iraq. Iran, Iraq, US, Jordan and Syria will do their Harambee bombing. ISIS is at it's peak. Downhill from here. @ectsacy 30,000 American trained Iraqi forces fled from only 800 ISIS.. Those 10,000 Indian farmers and houseboys mean nothing to ISIS and they will most likely also shit their pants when they see the black flags approaching! ISIS know they may be crushed... They have no delusions about that! Crushing Al Qaeda in Iraq yielded ISIS... What will crushing ISIS yield?? I heard some news channel saying Al Baghdadi may end up being worse than Bin Laden to the Americans! You have your answer: The Iraqi army, backed by thousands of tribal gunmen and volunteer forces, has today retaken full control of the northern city of Tikrit from the terrorist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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With the US pumping money to anti-Assad, ISIS has a lifeline. The end may be a balance of resource rich areas having some form of autonomy.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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ISIS spokesperson Abu Muhamad Al-Adnani has declared a Caliphate with Sheikh Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi being Amir Al-Mu'minin (Leader of Believers)
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