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Insecurity, Tribalism: What are the solutions
symbols
#31 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:33:00 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
We're being terrorized.We need courage to face ourselves,our enemies and implement solutions.


We are being terrorized?

"Terrorizm" iz a political term created to create political factz and political realitiez.


Fear,denial and anger.


Why are we being terrorized @symbols?


The 'roaring lion' at work.
tycho
#32 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:52:52 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
We're being terrorized.We need courage to face ourselves,our enemies and implement solutions.


We are being terrorized?

"Terrorizm" iz a political term created to create political factz and political realitiez.


Fear,denial and anger.


Why are we being terrorized @symbols?


The 'roaring lion' at work.


I don't think this answer is adequate @symbols. For example, I understand the 'roaring lion', as 'the devil'. If am right, then how would other people who don't have the devil in their worldview understand the terror?

If there's no consensus on why we're being terrorized then terror is apt to escalate.
symbols
#33 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:59:04 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2013
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
We're being terrorized.We need courage to face ourselves,our enemies and implement solutions.


We are being terrorized?

"Terrorizm" iz a political term created to create political factz and political realitiez.


Fear,denial and anger.


Why are we being terrorized @symbols?


The 'roaring lion' at work.


I don't think this answer is adequate @symbols. For example, I understand the 'roaring lion', as 'the devil'. If am right, then how would other people who don't have the devil in their worldview understand the terror?

If there's no consensus on why we're being terrorized then terror is apt to escalate.


Does the answer have to be adequate?

Ok.Geopolitics,resources and the war machine.Nothing is 'local' anymore when the world is interdependent.
butterflyke
#34 Posted : Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:14:04 PM
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From Jomo to Uhuru: How Kenya lost the battle for security

Interesting article by Mr. Ndii
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
tycho
#35 Posted : Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:34:10 PM
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butterflyke wrote:


Unfortunately he hasn't gone far back enough. This game was solidified at the Berlin conference. Kenya as a political system with salient global implications was designed and her trajectory decided. That's where our problems started, and not even 'independence' could change our course.

We can say anything we wish, but if we don't look as far back, then all we'll have is noise and desperation.
symbols
#36 Posted : Sunday, June 22, 2014 5:23:19 PM
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tycho wrote:
butterflyke wrote:


Unfortunately he hasn't gone far back enough. This game was solidified at the Berlin conference. Kenya as a political system with salient global implications was designed and her trajectory decided. That's where our problems started, and not even 'independence' could change our course.

We can say anything we wish, but if we don't look as far back, then all we'll have is noise and desperation.


How far back can we go without encountering the negative aspects of human nature expressing themselves within the systems,environment and advancements of the day?
murchr
#37 Posted : Sunday, June 22, 2014 6:03:36 PM
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tycho wrote:
butterflyke wrote:


Unfortunately he hasn't gone far back enough. This game was solidified at the Berlin conference. Kenya as a political system with salient global implications was designed and her trajectory decided. That's where our problems started, and not even 'independence' could change our course.

We can say anything we wish, but if we don't look as far back, then all we'll have is noise and desperation.


Indeed people migrated freely before without much ado. Why so much hatred now? Our problems did not start in 1963..no
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tycho
#38 Posted : Sunday, June 22, 2014 6:33:41 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
butterflyke wrote:


Unfortunately he hasn't gone far back enough. This game was solidified at the Berlin conference. Kenya as a political system with salient global implications was designed and her trajectory decided. That's where our problems started, and not even 'independence' could change our course.

We can say anything we wish, but if we don't look as far back, then all we'll have is noise and desperation.


How far back can we go without encountering the negative aspects of human nature expressing themselves within the systems,environment and advancements of the day?


As long as humanity has existed, and humanity exists, there'll always be good and evil.
symbols
#39 Posted : Sunday, June 22, 2014 7:00:59 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
butterflyke wrote:


Unfortunately he hasn't gone far back enough. This game was solidified at the Berlin conference. Kenya as a political system with salient global implications was designed and her trajectory decided. That's where our problems started, and not even 'independence' could change our course.

We can say anything we wish, but if we don't look as far back, then all we'll have is noise and desperation.


How far back can we go without encountering the negative aspects of human nature expressing themselves within the systems,environment and advancements of the day?


As long as humanity has existed, and humanity exists, there'll always be good and evil.


Like past and future generations,the question remains the same,which wolf are we feeding.
tycho
#40 Posted : Sunday, June 22, 2014 7:10:02 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
butterflyke wrote:


Unfortunately he hasn't gone far back enough. This game was solidified at the Berlin conference. Kenya as a political system with salient global implications was designed and her trajectory decided. That's where our problems started, and not even 'independence' could change our course.

We can say anything we wish, but if we don't look as far back, then all we'll have is noise and desperation.


How far back can we go without encountering the negative aspects of human nature expressing themselves within the systems,environment and advancements of the day?


As long as humanity has existed, and humanity exists, there'll always be good and evil.


Like past and future generations,the question remains the same,which wolf are we feeding.


Yet evil can be defeated. The wolf doesn't have to be fed.
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