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Deadly cache of ammunition
Njung'e
#21 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:27:18 AM
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Very interesting....British soldiers (Johnnies) are selling arms inside Kenya?
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The General
#22 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:39:12 AM
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@ Njung'e, lol

Mbugua ( and his independence wishes) and the johnnies are now on the spot light.
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KulaRaha
#23 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:00:04 AM
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Perhaps this is not for 2012 but sooner? Like when some guys have arrest warrants issued for Hague??
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#24 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:38:04 AM
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KKK alliance getting ready for Pre-Election Violence over #mau forest?
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#25 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 4:53:53 AM
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Don Ben should be called the Genaral. He seems very well versed in these issues.
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DonBen
#26 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 8:33:44 AM
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Wasee,

You have all by now seen the culprit, our very own Administration Police!

Are communities in Rift Valley re-arming? What is the AP policy regarding safe handling of weapons and munitions?

Is it a surprise we always read about how APs shoot civilians or their spouses in domestic disagreements, or in bar brawls. Why are they allowed to keep dangerous weapons in their homes. What is the system of checks established within the AP for accounting for ammunition taken out of the armoury for training or other purposes? Do the AP really have a chain of command like other arms of disciplined forces?

Difficult questions indeed!

The AP Commandant Kinuthia Mbugua is curiously silent about the whole saga. He is solely responsible for this and one wonders why he has not been asked to step aside to facilitate investigations that happended under his watch. The scandal has all the hallmarks of something that has been going on for a long time!

Looking at it; why does Kinuthia Mbugua, who is constitutionally a subordinate to the Police Commissioner occupying an office in the same building with the senior most government of Kenya officials of the Office of the President? Why does he not report to the commissioner? Why has he not, as Commandant, been called to account for the loss of a massive 100k rounds of LIVE AMMUNITION? How much more has been 'lost' but is not public?

What is really going on in the AP division? Why are they being given unconstitutional powers like patrolling borders with aircraft or patrolling the coastline with speedboats, yet we have the military (constitutionally empowered to protect the country against external aggression) or the regular and port police (constitutionally empowered to maintain law and order)? And this is a force that was previously known only in our villages as TRIBAL POLICE brushing shoulders with Chiefs and DOs? Even DCs - who normally chair District Security Committees- were too high up for APs, but it appears this has been quickly overtaken by the reality on the ground.

Is someone somewhere running a private army at the expense of tax payers? Is someone somewhere targeting President Obama's anti-terrorism funds for their own personal benefit and is using the AP to siphon the $$$$? Or do they want to sabotage reforms?

Interestingly, one Orwa Ojode, Assistant Minister of Internal Security was reading a questionable ministerial statement in parliament, and he probably does not even have an idea of what is going on in the AP division. Assistant Ministers do not receive daily security and intelligence briefings. Assistant Ministers are idlers who merely read speeches on behalf of ministers so one wonders how Ojode got to read a ministerial statement in the house. Why has Minister Saitoti evaded going to parliament since the scandal broke out?

In the military; ammunition is accounted through very strict systems that follows an established chain of command. This is clearly lacking in AP. It is a tragic lapse and one that is going to cost this country dearly.

mwenza
#27 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 8:51:41 AM
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@ Donben.............A good and food for thought piece. Have personally always wondered why the APs are the most trigger happy when it comes to extraneous issues bordering on matters of the heart.
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#28 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 9:10:39 AM
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Donben,
......good stuff!!!!
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