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Time Kenya Had An International Airport Near Nairobi?
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#1 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:39:10 PM
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You are tired after an 8hr flight from abroad,and are approaching JKIA for landing. Excitement replaces the jetlag, as you look keenly forward to meet your relatives and friends in the next few minutes. Suddenly,the aircraft captain informs you and other passengers that there are no landing lights on the JKIA runaway and the flight has been thus been diverted to the nearest international airport, Mombasa - a daunting 7hr road trip away from Nbi! You now have to travel an additional 7hrs on road! A first-time tourist would be horrified. As a returning resident, you sigh and wonder what else is coming.

Isn't it time Kenya built an additional airport near Nbi, as borne out by the events that unfolded jana when the airport was plunged into darkness and flights delayed for >6hrs? Passengers missed out on connecting flights and its not clear who will pick their tabs.

I would recommend Thika - maybe the Kakuzi area:
- It is <1hr away from Nbi,
- Served by a good highway that is being
expanded,
- Miraa traders + flower farmers and other
horticultural producers dont have to come
all the way to Nbi.
- Thika is accessible from other parts of the
country by fairly good roads.

Kitengela is also fine, but unfortunately currently shares Mombasa Rd with JKIA and anything affectiing Msa Rd would also affect the airport at Kitengela. Isiolo, as someone had said in a different thread maybe fine, but is further away from Nbi.

What your take, guys?

Kaigangio
#2 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:56:00 PM
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i would suggest anywhere between Naivasha and mt Longonot...there is enouph/adequate space and a good road(s)
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
muganda
#3 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:56:24 PM
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Interesting, but is there a minimum distance between international airports to justify the huge space, capital and infrastructure outlay?

Wonder what's shortest distance between two international airports in the world? Is it like 50kms somewhere in the US...
Radiance
#4 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:01:43 PM
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@intel isiolo it is and plans are ongoing. In such cases you wuld take a smaller craft to wilson in say 20 mins. That said the KAA needs to style up and install like 3 backup systems
JkMwatha
#5 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:13:33 PM
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Radiance wrote:
@intel isiolo it is and plans are ongoing. In such cases you wuld take a smaller craft to wilson in say 20 mins. That said the KAA needs to style up and install like 3 backup systems


@Radiance - if you can take a smaller craft from Isiolo to Wilson, why wouldn't it happen from Mombasa to Wilson?
simonkabz
#6 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:54:12 PM
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Ati take a small a/c to wilson? Wilson is 4 DAY Ops ONLY!
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Nandwa
#7 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 6:48:50 AM
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That would not be a wise use of my resources.
Another airport within the same vicinity? To mitigate against an accurrence that is as frequent as lightening hiting
Busia twice!!
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
KulaRaha
#8 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 6:58:58 AM
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Its easier to fire the idiot running JKIA and hire a professional in his place.

Isnt it time such critical services were run by pros, rather than old fools??
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
simonkabz
#9 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 9:24:44 AM
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A problem that took over 12 hrs to rectify isnt kidogo. Cant really blame the mgt. Remember thats a facility of national strategic importance n unquantifiable economic significance. Who would be that foolish?
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
KulaRaha
#10 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 9:47:04 AM
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So if the runway lights fail for 12 hours, we shouldnt blame management? Who do we blame?

JKIA is a shame, have you seen the state of the departure gates? the WCs? Parking?

Who should we blame for this?

Mungiki? Moi? or Management?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Njung'e
#11 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 11:06:05 AM
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Parallel lighting system complete with back-up gensets.....is that rocket science?
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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#12 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 11:21:07 AM
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If it were happening for the first time, it can be excused. But it has happened before, both in Nairobi and Msa.
simonkabz
#13 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 12:05:48 PM
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How many runways have a working lighting system in kenya? List them pliz. And were the underground cabling done under the current mgt? No! Im not defending anyone, bt we just dnt go blaming pple lyk that. All the same, the current mgt must pull up their socks to ensure the same doesnt recur.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
KulaRaha
#14 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 12:10:13 PM
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By asking how many runways have lights, youre trying to justify our main international airport not having lights?

Oh pls!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
simonkabz
#15 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 12:19:54 PM
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@kularaha, ua anger is somewhat misdirected. These things happen in kenya. What I meant with the 1st statement is, there r several which used to have a serviceable lighting system bt failed only after a few years. Elewa boss, JKIA iko Kenya, na iko sawa!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
B.Timer
#16 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 12:31:37 PM
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Critisism of public office holders is welcome.

But let that criticism be realistic.

We can not seek to overate our capacity as a country.

Again many more strategic hubs of the world do face not dissimilar challenges.

Tuache maneno ya shooting from the hip.
Dunia ni msongamano..
KulaRaha
#17 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 12:37:14 PM
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Shooting from the hip? really??

Read this:

http://www.airport-techn...projects/jomo-kenyatta/

then this:

http://myafrica.wordpres...billion-jkia-expansion/

finally this:

http://www.airport-techn....com/news/news3862.html

This circus has been ongoing and was expected to be complete by end of 2009, yes sir, in 20 days time.

Unfortunately, someone somewhere wanted his "share"....
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
KulaRaha
#18 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 12:40:00 PM
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And before you run to defend the Chinks, read this:

http://www.chinadaily.co.../22/content_7419998.htm

No wonder the World Bank pulled out of this one...
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
McReggae
#19 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 2:13:18 PM
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I see Muhoho apologists around.......that was a real shame, just as Njunge has said, putting a back up system aint no rocket science!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Ngalaka
#20 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2009 2:22:07 PM
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It was a shame.
Something need be done to avert such in future.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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