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Who should be sacked related to insecurity
mdudu
#31 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:57:34 PM
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mdudu wrote:
McReggae wrote:
butterflyke wrote:
ai yawa....tho


@MC Sad


How else do you explain deployment of GSU to Kibera and Kisumu???



Seems like RAO will be arrested 2nyt.




This is what they all believe PORK ole dengu,gichangi,muhoro,karangi and their acolytes
McReggae
#32 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 4:09:17 PM
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Lenku through Lawyer Donal Kipkorir says LSK is involved in a smear cmpaign against him!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
AlphDoti
#33 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 4:21:06 PM
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mdudu wrote:
McReggae wrote:
butterflyke wrote:
ai yawa....tho

@MC Sad

How else do you explain deployment of GSU to Kibera and Kisumu???

Seems like RAO will be arrested 2nyt.

Ooohh I get it now. So you stage an attack and blame it on someone! How I forgot this trick used by the elite for years! Brick wall Think

1. create a problem
2. get a reaction like fear of attack
3. offer a solution e.g. arrest some "big" enemies of yours for "big business" e.g. political mileage

Please google "False flag"

Wikipedia definition:
Quote:
False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own.
kivairu
#34 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 4:30:38 PM
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How about professionalizing the security services while also detribalizing the appointments?


Thanks Robinhood, i like this kind of thinking, so rare on wazua sometimes.

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
kivairu
#35 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 4:34:35 PM
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Ole lenku is better off reading the 'weather forecast' report on KBC. This security docket seems to give him severe with migranes everyday.

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
harrydre
#36 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:39:30 PM
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mdudu wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Not a single word on the people responsible for Security at the top from the president!!!!



UHURU: Intelligence was availed to security officers but they failed to act on it. #MpeketoniAttack


Leonard Omolo the then Lamu County Police Commander was too 'busy' @ Tononoka to act on this threat. In any case, the targeted community was seen as an 'enemy'


i.am.back!!!!
muganda
#37 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:13:49 PM
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masukuma
#38 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2014 10:41:18 PM
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we love simplifying things sana - Ole Lenku is the problem, Kimaiyo is the problem e.t.c. we want to see heads rolling not 'fixes' to institutions. let me give you an analogy - the kenyan football team, we always complain... oh coach.. oh nyamwea oh...oh...oh... perhaps it's our players that stink!! perhaps it's our policemen and intelligence that stink! perhaps it's the crop from which we pick the coach, the police and the intelligence men from that stinks. we hire policemen who had low grades, put them up in deplorable conditions, give them training that may be suited for an 'armed force' i.e. confronting violent men who show up to beat people but cannot handle technology supported crime by younger and more agile minds. We need new wineskins for this new wine. old tricks wachia yule jamaa wa kiini macho.
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Rahatupu
#39 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:16:09 AM
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masukuma wrote:
we love simplifying things sana - Ole Lenku is the problem, Kimaiyo is the problem e.t.c. we want to see heads rolling not 'fixes' to institutions. let me give you an analogy - the kenyan football team, we always complain... oh coach.. oh nyamwea oh...oh...oh... perhaps it's our players that stink!! perhaps it's our policemen and intelligence that stink! perhaps it's the crop from which we pick the coach, the police and the intelligence men from that stinks. we hire policemen who had low grades, put them up in deplorable conditions, give them training that may be suited for an 'armed force' i.e. confronting violent men who show up to beat people but cannot handle technology supported crime by younger and more agile minds. We need new wineskins for this new wine. old tricks wachia yule jamaa wa kiini macho.



I've said it here and I'll say it again,to expect a win against terror using the current court and judicial system is naive to say the least. The constitution is the problem, history is the problem, our politics fuel these problems courtesy of the first problem-constitution.

The NIS was nurtured and the spooks do not have executive mandate, they are mere cogs to relay info, no matter how urgent. The PORK cannot fire the IGP who has security of tenure. The issue of bonding terror suspects has been discussed before and I'll not belabour the same. Here is where the problem lies, we expect to achieve different result by fighting terrorism with kids cloves - courts. IMHO, these people should get more fire than they can unleash Michuki+Ali style in short extra judicial tactics, preemptive strikes and annihilation of enemy combatants is the only way out.

Disrupting the capacity of the shabaab, decimating their leadership and disrupting their organizational and logistical abilities will do so much more than arresting them and parading them before courts. This can be achieved with the current capacity of the various machinery, however why it doesn't happen is the best reason PORK should fire his top adivisors starting with ole Cook.

Why would known shabaab operatives be roaming freely in the streets and openly attending rallies? Ok they have "rights" rights to spread terror as guaranteed by the law. This is where the judicial alternative fails the system. Michuki realized this and simply did what was humanly practicable to arrest the Mungiki manace at a time when it seemed to get out off hand.
McReggae
#40 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:24:36 AM
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We keep talking of security of tenure blah blah blah, anybody, and I anybody including the president can be removed from Office:

Quote:
(7) The Inspector-General may be removed from office by the
President only on the grounds of—
(a) serious violation of this Constitution or any other law,
including a contravention of Chapter Six;
(b) gross misconduct whether in the performance of the office
holder’s functions or otherwise;
(c) physical or mental incapacity to perform the functions of
office;
(d) incompetence;
(e) bankruptcy; or
(f) any other just cause.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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