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Lamu/Mpeketoni
Um Sayala
#221 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 3:54:30 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
Al Shaabad it is. Sources from the ground indicate that the assailants carried black flag, spoke in Somali/Arabic and their method of separating the men from women can only serve to validate this claim. Not too complicated to analyse.


And some people here are still waitin for Al shabaab to say "Oh yes, we did it" so that they can believe.
It is Al shabaab, even if you want to blame it on BBC, CNN, Al Jaazira or Babaazira
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dunkang
#222 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 3:54:48 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
dunkang wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Ive been wondering about MRC!

How can MRC possibly have this level of weaponry and military training??


Eish eish eish Madam commander.

We have given up. Your boys did it. They won hands down, they have receive double portion of virgins now in your heaven (72*2=144)!

Now go celebrate with your boys!You have won the war, the battle and the Caliphate, or whatever it is you want.


She can also join the virgins and make it 145 for the their guys.


Guru267 belongs to me, she is only try t play hard.With time ataingia tu box


Unataka kamata oriah?
Not talking Not talking

Hiyo harufu atawezana nayo!!!!!
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Robinhood
#223 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 3:57:41 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Um Sayala wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ethnic cleansing

I dont know why you are pushing this agenda of ethnic cleansing. Whose interest do you want to serve?
I happen to have close relatives in Mpeketoni. They tried reaching me in the night, around 2250hrs but I didnt pick the phone(which was in silent mode).
Since morning I've been trying to call them but cd not reach them, partly that's why I cd not post a thing on wazua, esp on this thread.

IT IS not cleansing. I have spoken to them, they are safe but a relative of theirs is dead. The attackers separated men from women and children, then shot dead the men and slit their throats. They said they would not kill women and children the way our soldiers are doing in their land, SOMALIA. This is Al shaabab


Sorry about the distress you wentthrough.

But look at these mpeketoni objectively and try answering these questions
1.Why Mpeketoni?
2.If its alshabaab, Why would they travel all the way from somalia, leave kiunga and the many villlages between kiunga and mpeketoni(aproximately 7 villages or so with inhabitants of between 2-3K people) most of which dont have mobile coverage and no police post,inaccessible roads when it rains etc
3.If I were alshabaab and only interested in killing kenyans, I would send between 5-10 guys in each of those villages and have the death toll in 1,000s and not come to mpeketoni to kill a few people.
4.Going or coming from Somali is either you drive,use speed boats(Speed boats cannot go past Kiwayu due to high tides or use a dhow.So 50 pax using either of the above channels would have been noticed by the navy base in kiunga who always carry out surveillance or noticed when using speed boats or driving.The only cars that drive to kiunga are the military,police,KWS, fisheries and a few NGO's and the locals including the locals at Lamu will tell you which car is going which direction and when.

5.The only other argument that could make Alshabaab travel all that distance is becuase the villages near Somali are mainly Muslims hence to target Kenyan non muslims would have been Mpeketoni.

But again, consideirng what happened in Liboi; I think Alshabaab wont care about being muslim or non muslim


Swenani. You assume all these happening in country with competent security apparatus. This is just not the case in .ke. Besides, Al shabab prefer the high profile police station attack. Gives them serious credibility - just as Westgate gave themm high visibility.

The point? Wakenya mtakiona
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
Swenani
#224 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 3:59:17 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
dunkang wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Ive been wondering about MRC!

How can MRC possibly have this level of weaponry and military training??


Eish eish eish Madam commander.

We have given up. Your boys did it. They won hands down, they have receive double portion of virgins now in your heaven (72*2=144)!

Now go celebrate with your boys!You have won the war, the battle and the Caliphate, or whatever it is you want.


She can also join the virgins and make it 145 for the their guys.


Guru267 belongs to me, she is only try t play hard.With time ataingia tu box


Unataka kamata oriah?
Not talking Not talking

XXXXXXXXXX!!!!!


Dunkang, please stop it!
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
guru267
#225 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 4:04:17 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
Al Shaabad it is. Sources from the ground indicate that the assailants carried black flag, spoke in Somali/Arabic and their method of separating the men from women can only serve to validate this claim. Not too complicated to analyse.


Once you involve "the prince" or "Baba" many wazuans tend to develop a problem with logic!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Lolest!
#226 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 4:05:22 PM
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swenani has good arguments on this...
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Lolest!
#227 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 4:06:53 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
Al Shaabad it is. Sources from the ground indicate that the assailants carried black flag, spoke in Somali/Arabic and their method of separating the men from women can only serve to validate this claim. Not too complicated to analyse.


Once you involve "the prince" or "Baba" many wazuans tend to develop a problem with logic!

was westgate alshababu? They shot women and kids
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Impunity
#228 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 4:07:32 PM
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Um Sayala
#229 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 4:08:26 PM
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Location: Sudan
Swenani wrote:
Um Sayala wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ethnic cleansing

I dont know why you are pushing this agenda of ethnic cleansing. Whose interest do you want to serve?
I happen to have close relatives in Mpeketoni. They tried reaching me in the night, around 2250hrs but I didnt pick the phone(which was in silent mode).
Since morning I've been trying to call them but cd not reach them, partly that's why I cd not post a thing on wazua, esp on this thread.

IT IS not cleansing. I have spoken to them, they are safe but a relative of theirs is dead. The attackers separated men from women and children, then shot dead the men and slit their throats. They said they would not kill women and children the way our soldiers are doing in their land, SOMALIA. This is Al shaabab


Sorry about the distress you wentthrough.

But look at these mpeketoni objectively and try answering these questions
1.Why Mpeketoni? Bcoz Al shabaab stikes anywhere, they have travelled long distance to hit Nairobi, Mbsa etc before

2.If its alshabaab, Why would they travel all the way from somalia, leave kiunga and the many villlages between kiunga and mpeketoni(aproximately 7 villages or so with inhabitants of between 2-3K people) most of which dont have mobile coverage and no police post,inaccessible roads when it rains etc. Al shabaab is fighting the GoK, the citizens are collateral, that's why they'd rather hit a police station (Ngara, Mpeketoni) than the villages you've mentioned.

3.If I were alshabaab and only interested in killing kenyans, I would send between 5-10 guys in each of those villages and have the death toll in 1,000s and not come to mpeketoni to kill a few people.Killing a policeman, burning a post/station or killing KDF may be more rewarding to them than 1000 civilians

4.Going or coming from Somali is either you drive,use speed boats(Speed boats cannot go past Kiwayu due to high tides or use a dhow.So 50 pax using either of the above channels would have been noticed by the navy base in kiunga who always carry out surveillance or noticed when using speed boats or driving.The only cars that drive to kiunga are the military,police,KWS, fisheries and a few NGO's and the locals including the locals at Lamu will tell you which car is going which direction and when. who tells you that they all travelled on the same boat, at the same time, and back?

5.The only other argument that could make Alshabaab travel all that distance is becuase the villages near Somali are mainly Muslims hence to target Kenyan non muslims would have been Mpeketoni.

But again, consideirng what happened in Liboi; I think Alshabaab wont care about being muslim or non muslim

"Peace is our profession, War is our business" ...Unknown
omhangla
#230 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 4:09:45 PM
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