No, @Wakanyugi, am not offended at all, and I don't intend to offend you either.

My point is though you've used a referent 'tycho', the other intended 'referent' - 'reality' or 'non illusion' doesn't exist. It can't exist in your argument. You can't say anything, or do anything. But that's an impossibility. There'll always be something. And it will always be named.

And this again applies to the matter of both transcending and affirming separateness. I'll give you a practical example; knowledge and change in knowledge over time. Knowledge is expressed in a language, a transcendance of the seperate elements of the language.

Just like it's said in mathematics, an instance must presuppose a general condition. Seperateness and non-separateness existing and working at the same time.

I'll also give a more visible example. If one examines the proposed time line, at say, at any given interval, he/she will see that overally, human history has been about integrating and disintegrating, at the same time. Like now when globalization has become more intensified and multiculturalism is pressing, the number of new states is rising, and right wing politics of seperation are rising.

System integration and entropy at the same time, despite identity. Energy transmuting.

Muriel, what makes you think am stubborn? And, in simple terms, what's @Wakanyugi saying?

Then if, you get what he's saying, why aren't you agreeing with him?

Yes. I have. Have you just taken it?

lol.

Hello there Mtu Biz.

I always like reading what you have to communicate. Go on.

Yoúr tone is interesting...

In summary.

Altered states of consciousness by any method, psychedelics,meditation/yoga,hypnosis etc make the human mind highly suggestible...remember the south african pastor who made his congregation eat grass ?
The only and i mean the only 'philosophy' that consistently advises against this kind of contact with 'the other side' is found in the Bible.

There are no longer rituals, steps, incantations to make to interface with God, God cannot be conjured up by any man made methods. The only ticket to an audience with God is a contrite heart and a broken spirit.

Once upon a time, everything was picture perfect.. the age of innocence..man in perfect harmony with God and nature...

Until the allure of a wisdom and a knowledge that would put man on equal footing with God sold by the ancient serpent was believed..

"You will not surely die, for when you eat of the fruit, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil"

The result.

The world as we know it.

Back to Ayahuasca
There is a reason why DMT cannot be naturally digested by the human body.

What will you believe Tycho?