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Rank: Hello Joined: 6/6/2014 Posts: 2 Location: Nairobi
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I noticed that not many people like Nissan motors in Kenya and so it’s hard getting information before you buy one. I exported a Blue Bird Sylphy from Japan with 90,000 kms on the dash. My previous car was a Toyota, and I was fairly new to Nissans. It is a well maintained 2007 model and was still in mint condition when I received it. The exterior is fairly standard for an Asian sedan and frankly depends on the eyes of the beholder. It’s about the size of a Toyota premio plus or minus a few inches here and there (longer wheel base), looks neat with size 16 alloy rims and has the usual curves of Nissans. The interiors I have to say are quite an effort for that price range. It’s almost as roomy as a Toyota Camry, the chairs are not leather but are quite comfortable. The driver seat is electrically adjusted and has memory settings for two, so you and your missus/man can share the seat on different occasions. The dashboard has a wood panel finish that is very stylish and a very beautiful gear shift to match. The Radio system and its screen is in the middle of the dashboard and blends quite nicely without protruding, in some cars, there are volume and track controls on the steering wheel for ease during driving. The system acts as a FM/AM radio, TV, GPS screen, CD player, Bluetooth, parking camera screen. There are many spaces within reach to keep your soda, coins, license, pens, eyeglasses etc. The noise insulation when the windows are rolled up is fantastic making for a very quiet ride. The boot is quite huge, larger than that of a Toyota premio and can be accessed from the back seat. The boot can be opened from the driver’s side or by a hook inside it reachable through the back seat. The rest are standard things like power windows and mirrors, air con, adjustable steering wheel etc. This particular car came with back and passenger side cameras which are very helpful in packing. It also has the option of key or keyless starting and door opening depending on the set of keys you carried that day. For safety the driver and front passenger get two air bag each, front and side (wake up Toyota). The engine comes in different ranges, this one came with a 2.0 litre engine with a CVT gearbox (continuously variable transmission). It’s quiet when running and it provides adequate power to propel the 1230kgs plus your weight around. What I found quite appealing under the hood is the fact that you don’t have to open the radiator cap to know the coolant level, which can save a few burns at the petrol station. The CVT gearbox is a very smooth and efficient invention meaning you can accelerate as your passenger drinks their soda without the usual jolt of changing gears. It is also great in engine breaking especially maintaining certain speed limits downhill. The ‘sport’ button on the shift lever lowers the ‘gear’ ratio for powerful accelerations during overtaking from slow speed. The acceleration is average, a bit sluggish the first3- 5 seconds though but compensates by being smooth all the way. Fuel consumption at highway speeds is commendable for the engine size, comparable to a 1.8l to 2l Toyota premio or wish. The suspension system is soft making for a comfortable ride on rough roads when not carrying too many passengers. Handling in corners at highway speeds is fair probably due to its weight. THE NEGATIVES Fuel consumption high in traffic jams Radio is in Japanese, owner’s manual in Japanese Rear drum brakes The car is low and scrapes the underside occasionally Driver’s seat has limited adjustment options i.e. it can only move forward & up (both at the same time) or backwards & down without the option of e.g. Moving forward without raising the seat or raising the seat but not moving forward etc. Exhaust pipe next to fuel tank, dangerous for exhaust welders. REPAIRS SO FAR (after 7,000kms) Exhaust pipe broke on Kenyan roads due to sea water corrosion, potholes and the low ground clearance. Usual fluid and filter changes Aesthetics/dents repairs COMPARISSON (2007 Toyota models) Better interior than a premio, more space and gadgets Poor fuel consumption compared to a smaller engine NZE Safer than both Smother ride Complex repairs for electronics as compaired to NZE which has less Faster than NZE Longevity is subject to use, service and road
OVERALL: It’s a comfy ride for its prize, has enough electronics for a basic ride. It’s perfect for someone who does 50-100km on tarmac at speeds of 70-140kms/hr. It allows for average to good acceleration and overtaking on the highway. It might not excite the WRX-STI types or the Rhino charge petrol heads as much as it might the middle class family man.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Seq Lu wrote:@washiku and co can some one tell me if I can bring in a 2006/1 ?
i.e a 2006 January registered car now that we are in May? I know this might have been answered else where in great wazua but please tell. Many thanks. This question posed last year is like asking today if someone can import a 2007/01 unit now! Closing date for ALL 2007 units is 31st Dec 2014. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Someone is selling a 2007 Sylphy at 800k. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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Tungz mwenyewe wrote:I noticed that not many people like Nissan motors in Kenya and so it’s hard getting information before you buy one. I exported a Blue Bird Sylphy from Japan with 90,000 kms on the dash. My previous car was a Toyota, and I was fairly new to Nissans. It is a well maintained 2007 model and was still in mint condition when I received it. The exterior is fairly standard for an Asian sedan and frankly depends on the eyes of the beholder. It’s about the size of a Toyota premio plus or minus a few inches here and there (longer wheel base), looks neat with size 16 alloy rims and has the usual curves of Nissans. The interiors I have to say are quite an effort for that price range. It’s almost as roomy as a Toyota Camry, the chairs are not leather but are quite comfortable. The driver seat is electrically adjusted and has memory settings for two, so you and your missus/man can share the seat on different occasions. The dashboard has a wood panel finish that is very stylish and a very beautiful gear shift to match. The Radio system and its screen is in the middle of the dashboard and blends quite nicely without protruding, in some cars, there are volume and track controls on the steering wheel for ease during driving. The system acts as a FM/AM radio, TV, GPS screen, CD player, Bluetooth, parking camera screen. There are many spaces within reach to keep your soda, coins, license, pens, eyeglasses etc. The noise insulation when the windows are rolled up is fantastic making for a very quiet ride. The boot is quite huge, larger than that of a Toyota premio and can be accessed from the back seat. The boot can be opened from the driver’s side or by a hook inside it reachable through the back seat. The rest are standard things like power windows and mirrors, air con, adjustable steering wheel etc. This particular car came with back and passenger side cameras which are very helpful in packing. It also has the option of key or keyless starting and door opening depending on the set of keys you carried that day. For safety the driver and front passenger get two air bag each, front and side (wake up Toyota). The engine comes in different ranges, this one came with a 2.0 litre engine with a CVT gearbox (continuously variable transmission). It’s quiet when running and it provides adequate power to propel the 1230kgs plus your weight around. What I found quite appealing under the hood is the fact that you don’t have to open the radiator cap to know the coolant level, which can save a few burns at the petrol station. The CVT gearbox is a very smooth and efficient invention meaning you can accelerate as your passenger drinks their soda without the usual jolt of changing gears. It is also great in engine breaking especially maintaining certain speed limits downhill. The ‘sport’ button on the shift lever lowers the ‘gear’ ratio for powerful accelerations during overtaking from slow speed. The acceleration is average, a bit sluggish the first3- 5 seconds though but compensates by being smooth all the way. Fuel consumption at highway speeds is commendable for the engine size, comparable to a 1.8l to 2l Toyota premio or wish. The suspension system is soft making for a comfortable ride on rough roads when not carrying too many passengers. Handling in corners at highway speeds is fair probably due to its weight. THE NEGATIVES Fuel consumption high in traffic jams Radio is in Japanese, owner’s manual in Japanese Rear drum brakes The car is low and scrapes the underside occasionally Driver’s seat has limited adjustment options i.e. it can only move forward & up (both at the same time) or backwards & down without the option of e.g. Moving forward without raising the seat or raising the seat but not moving forward etc. Exhaust pipe next to fuel tank, dangerous for exhaust welders. REPAIRS SO FAR (after 7,000kms) Exhaust pipe broke on Kenyan roads due to sea water corrosion, potholes and the low ground clearance. Usual fluid and filter changes Aesthetics/dents repairs COMPARISSON (2007 Toyota models) Better interior than a premio, more space and gadgets Poor fuel consumption compared to a smaller engine NZE Safer than both Smother ride Complex repairs for electronics as compaired to NZE which has less Faster than NZE Longevity is subject to use, service and road
OVERALL: It’s a comfy ride for its prize, has enough electronics for a basic ride. It’s perfect for someone who does 50-100km on tarmac at speeds of 70-140kms/hr. It allows for average to good acceleration and overtaking on the highway. It might not excite the WRX-STI types or the Rhino charge petrol heads as much as it might the middle class family man. wouldn't touch that transmission. especially on a 7 year old vehicle.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/8/2009 Posts: 975 Location: Nairobi
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mkenyan wrote:Tungz mwenyewe wrote:I noticed that not many people like Nissan motors in Kenya and so it’s hard getting information before you buy one. I exported a Blue Bird Sylphy from Japan with 90,000 kms on the dash. My previous car was a Toyota, and I was fairly new to Nissans. It is a well maintained 2007 model and was still in mint condition when I received it. The exterior is fairly standard for an Asian sedan and frankly depends on the eyes of the beholder. It’s about the size of a Toyota premio plus or minus a few inches here and there (longer wheel base), looks neat with size 16 alloy rims and has the usual curves of Nissans. The interiors I have to say are quite an effort for that price range. It’s almost as roomy as a Toyota Camry, the chairs are not leather but are quite comfortable. The driver seat is electrically adjusted and has memory settings for two, so you and your missus/man can share the seat on different occasions. The dashboard has a wood panel finish that is very stylish and a very beautiful gear shift to match. The Radio system and its screen is in the middle of the dashboard and blends quite nicely without protruding, in some cars, there are volume and track controls on the steering wheel for ease during driving. The system acts as a FM/AM radio, TV, GPS screen, CD player, Bluetooth, parking camera screen. There are many spaces within reach to keep your soda, coins, license, pens, eyeglasses etc. The noise insulation when the windows are rolled up is fantastic making for a very quiet ride. The boot is quite huge, larger than that of a Toyota premio and can be accessed from the back seat. The boot can be opened from the driver’s side or by a hook inside it reachable through the back seat. The rest are standard things like power windows and mirrors, air con, adjustable steering wheel etc. This particular car came with back and passenger side cameras which are very helpful in packing. It also has the option of key or keyless starting and door opening depending on the set of keys you carried that day. For safety the driver and front passenger get two air bag each, front and side (wake up Toyota). The engine comes in different ranges, this one came with a 2.0 litre engine with a CVT gearbox (continuously variable transmission). It’s quiet when running and it provides adequate power to propel the 1230kgs plus your weight around. What I found quite appealing under the hood is the fact that you don’t have to open the radiator cap to know the coolant level, which can save a few burns at the petrol station. The CVT gearbox is a very smooth and efficient invention meaning you can accelerate as your passenger drinks their soda without the usual jolt of changing gears. It is also great in engine breaking especially maintaining certain speed limits downhill. The ‘sport’ button on the shift lever lowers the ‘gear’ ratio for powerful accelerations during overtaking from slow speed. The acceleration is average, a bit sluggish the first3- 5 seconds though but compensates by being smooth all the way. Fuel consumption at highway speeds is commendable for the engine size, comparable to a 1.8l to 2l Toyota premio or wish. The suspension system is soft making for a comfortable ride on rough roads when not carrying too many passengers. Handling in corners at highway speeds is fair probably due to its weight. THE NEGATIVES Fuel consumption high in traffic jams Radio is in Japanese, owner’s manual in Japanese Rear drum brakes The car is low and scrapes the underside occasionally Driver’s seat has limited adjustment options i.e. it can only move forward & up (both at the same time) or backwards & down without the option of e.g. Moving forward without raising the seat or raising the seat but not moving forward etc. Exhaust pipe next to fuel tank, dangerous for exhaust welders. REPAIRS SO FAR (after 7,000kms) Exhaust pipe broke on Kenyan roads due to sea water corrosion, potholes and the low ground clearance. Usual fluid and filter changes Aesthetics/dents repairs COMPARISSON (2007 Toyota models) Better interior than a premio, more space and gadgets Poor fuel consumption compared to a smaller engine NZE Safer than both Smother ride Complex repairs for electronics as compaired to NZE which has less Faster than NZE Longevity is subject to use, service and road
OVERALL: It’s a comfy ride for its prize, has enough electronics for a basic ride. It’s perfect for someone who does 50-100km on tarmac at speeds of 70-140kms/hr. It allows for average to good acceleration and overtaking on the highway. It might not excite the WRX-STI types or the Rhino charge petrol heads as much as it might the middle class family man. wouldn't touch that transmission. especially on a 7 year old vehicle. Isnt this a case of rigidity to change? All technologies were once new and look where we are now! You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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XSK wrote:mkenyan wrote:Tungz mwenyewe wrote:I noticed that not many people like Nissan motors in Kenya and so it’s hard getting information before you buy one. I exported a Blue Bird Sylphy from Japan with 90,000 kms on the dash. My previous car was a Toyota, and I was fairly new to Nissans. It is a well maintained 2007 model and was still in mint condition when I received it. The exterior is fairly standard for an Asian sedan and frankly depends on the eyes of the beholder. It’s about the size of a Toyota premio plus or minus a few inches here and there (longer wheel base), looks neat with size 16 alloy rims and has the usual curves of Nissans. The interiors I have to say are quite an effort for that price range. It’s almost as roomy as a Toyota Camry, the chairs are not leather but are quite comfortable. The driver seat is electrically adjusted and has memory settings for two, so you and your missus/man can share the seat on different occasions. The dashboard has a wood panel finish that is very stylish and a very beautiful gear shift to match. The Radio system and its screen is in the middle of the dashboard and blends quite nicely without protruding, in some cars, there are volume and track controls on the steering wheel for ease during driving. The system acts as a FM/AM radio, TV, GPS screen, CD player, Bluetooth, parking camera screen. There are many spaces within reach to keep your soda, coins, license, pens, eyeglasses etc. The noise insulation when the windows are rolled up is fantastic making for a very quiet ride. The boot is quite huge, larger than that of a Toyota premio and can be accessed from the back seat. The boot can be opened from the driver’s side or by a hook inside it reachable through the back seat. The rest are standard things like power windows and mirrors, air con, adjustable steering wheel etc. This particular car came with back and passenger side cameras which are very helpful in packing. It also has the option of key or keyless starting and door opening depending on the set of keys you carried that day. For safety the driver and front passenger get two air bag each, front and side (wake up Toyota). The engine comes in different ranges, this one came with a 2.0 litre engine with a CVT gearbox (continuously variable transmission). It’s quiet when running and it provides adequate power to propel the 1230kgs plus your weight around. What I found quite appealing under the hood is the fact that you don’t have to open the radiator cap to know the coolant level, which can save a few burns at the petrol station. The CVT gearbox is a very smooth and efficient invention meaning you can accelerate as your passenger drinks their soda without the usual jolt of changing gears. It is also great in engine breaking especially maintaining certain speed limits downhill. The ‘sport’ button on the shift lever lowers the ‘gear’ ratio for powerful accelerations during overtaking from slow speed. The acceleration is average, a bit sluggish the first3- 5 seconds though but compensates by being smooth all the way. Fuel consumption at highway speeds is commendable for the engine size, comparable to a 1.8l to 2l Toyota premio or wish. The suspension system is soft making for a comfortable ride on rough roads when not carrying too many passengers. Handling in corners at highway speeds is fair probably due to its weight. THE NEGATIVES Fuel consumption high in traffic jams Radio is in Japanese, owner’s manual in Japanese Rear drum brakes The car is low and scrapes the underside occasionally Driver’s seat has limited adjustment options i.e. it can only move forward & up (both at the same time) or backwards & down without the option of e.g. Moving forward without raising the seat or raising the seat but not moving forward etc. Exhaust pipe next to fuel tank, dangerous for exhaust welders. REPAIRS SO FAR (after 7,000kms) Exhaust pipe broke on Kenyan roads due to sea water corrosion, potholes and the low ground clearance. Usual fluid and filter changes Aesthetics/dents repairs COMPARISSON (2007 Toyota models) Better interior than a premio, more space and gadgets Poor fuel consumption compared to a smaller engine NZE Safer than both Smother ride Complex repairs for electronics as compaired to NZE which has less Faster than NZE Longevity is subject to use, service and road
OVERALL: It’s a comfy ride for its prize, has enough electronics for a basic ride. It’s perfect for someone who does 50-100km on tarmac at speeds of 70-140kms/hr. It allows for average to good acceleration and overtaking on the highway. It might not excite the WRX-STI types or the Rhino charge petrol heads as much as it might the middle class family man. wouldn't touch that transmission. especially on a 7 year old vehicle. Isnt this a case of rigidity to change? All technologies were once new and look where we are now! problem with new technology is that the early adopters pay the brunt for the teething problems. seven years ago cvt wasnt what it now is. and even now it is not yet really there. if you have a problem with a cvt transmission (and you most likely will before long as their lifespan isn't like the conventional automatics) you would most likely have to replace it. madam had a benz b class (cvt) and when it ultimately went (before even 100k mileage) the cost of replacing it was like a new ride - no repairs possible.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/8/2009 Posts: 975 Location: Nairobi
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mkenyan wrote:XSK wrote:mkenyan wrote:Tungz mwenyewe wrote:I noticed that not many people like Nissan motors in Kenya and so it’s hard getting information before you buy one. I exported a Blue Bird Sylphy from Japan with 90,000 kms on the dash. My previous car was a Toyota, and I was fairly new to Nissans. It is a well maintained 2007 model and was still in mint condition when I received it. The exterior is fairly standard for an Asian sedan and frankly depends on the eyes of the beholder. It’s about the size of a Toyota premio plus or minus a few inches here and there (longer wheel base), looks neat with size 16 alloy rims and has the usual curves of Nissans. The interiors I have to say are quite an effort for that price range. It’s almost as roomy as a Toyota Camry, the chairs are not leather but are quite comfortable. The driver seat is electrically adjusted and has memory settings for two, so you and your missus/man can share the seat on different occasions. The dashboard has a wood panel finish that is very stylish and a very beautiful gear shift to match. The Radio system and its screen is in the middle of the dashboard and blends quite nicely without protruding, in some cars, there are volume and track controls on the steering wheel for ease during driving. The system acts as a FM/AM radio, TV, GPS screen, CD player, Bluetooth, parking camera screen. There are many spaces within reach to keep your soda, coins, license, pens, eyeglasses etc. The noise insulation when the windows are rolled up is fantastic making for a very quiet ride. The boot is quite huge, larger than that of a Toyota premio and can be accessed from the back seat. The boot can be opened from the driver’s side or by a hook inside it reachable through the back seat. The rest are standard things like power windows and mirrors, air con, adjustable steering wheel etc. This particular car came with back and passenger side cameras which are very helpful in packing. It also has the option of key or keyless starting and door opening depending on the set of keys you carried that day. For safety the driver and front passenger get two air bag each, front and side (wake up Toyota). The engine comes in different ranges, this one came with a 2.0 litre engine with a CVT gearbox (continuously variable transmission). It’s quiet when running and it provides adequate power to propel the 1230kgs plus your weight around. What I found quite appealing under the hood is the fact that you don’t have to open the radiator cap to know the coolant level, which can save a few burns at the petrol station. The CVT gearbox is a very smooth and efficient invention meaning you can accelerate as your passenger drinks their soda without the usual jolt of changing gears. It is also great in engine breaking especially maintaining certain speed limits downhill. The ‘sport’ button on the shift lever lowers the ‘gear’ ratio for powerful accelerations during overtaking from slow speed. The acceleration is average, a bit sluggish the first3- 5 seconds though but compensates by being smooth all the way. Fuel consumption at highway speeds is commendable for the engine size, comparable to a 1.8l to 2l Toyota premio or wish. The suspension system is soft making for a comfortable ride on rough roads when not carrying too many passengers. Handling in corners at highway speeds is fair probably due to its weight. THE NEGATIVES Fuel consumption high in traffic jams Radio is in Japanese, owner’s manual in Japanese Rear drum brakes The car is low and scrapes the underside occasionally Driver’s seat has limited adjustment options i.e. it can only move forward & up (both at the same time) or backwards & down without the option of e.g. Moving forward without raising the seat or raising the seat but not moving forward etc. Exhaust pipe next to fuel tank, dangerous for exhaust welders. REPAIRS SO FAR (after 7,000kms) Exhaust pipe broke on Kenyan roads due to sea water corrosion, potholes and the low ground clearance. Usual fluid and filter changes Aesthetics/dents repairs COMPARISSON (2007 Toyota models) Better interior than a premio, more space and gadgets Poor fuel consumption compared to a smaller engine NZE Safer than both Smother ride Complex repairs for electronics as compaired to NZE which has less Faster than NZE Longevity is subject to use, service and road
OVERALL: It’s a comfy ride for its prize, has enough electronics for a basic ride. It’s perfect for someone who does 50-100km on tarmac at speeds of 70-140kms/hr. It allows for average to good acceleration and overtaking on the highway. It might not excite the WRX-STI types or the Rhino charge petrol heads as much as it might the middle class family man. wouldn't touch that transmission. especially on a 7 year old vehicle. Isnt this a case of rigidity to change? All technologies were once new and look where we are now! problem with new technology is that the early adopters pay the brunt for the teething problems. seven years ago cvt wasnt what it now is. and even now it is not yet really there. if you have a problem with a cvt transmission (and you most likely will before long as their lifespan isn't like the conventional automatics) you would most likely have to replace it. madam had a benz b class (cvt) and when it ultimately went (before even 100k mileage) the cost of replacing it was like a new ride - no repairs possible. MK That was one case of serious malfunction, how many of the same kind of transmission (CVT) are still on the road till now? Any idea? You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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mkenyan wrote: madam had a benz b class (cvt) and when it ultimately went (before even 100k mileage) the cost of replacing it was like a new ride - no repairs possible.
It is my humble opinion that Daimler would have been very interested to know why their CVT failed...(I have read of some guys engaging R the highway on some vehicle with disastrous reaults !)I believe some of these things are designed to last the lifetime of the vehicle?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/14/2011 Posts: 171
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pleasecallme wrote:Between Toyota Corolla NZE and Nissan Sylphy G11 (2006/7+), which one is better in terms of handling, engine performance and reliability?
Forget about comfort, style or design. Asanteni!
18 months down the line..they bought Nze. Runs well, reliable, awesome fuel consumption, sufficiently comfy, still good as new You kill bird...bird dead snake come.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/23/2007 Posts: 604
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Nissan B15 going strong. I still wonder why the owner sold the car to me. Great fuel economy...isn't 15/16KM per litre great? Very low maintenance...usual oil filter, air filter, etc replacement. Handles well on the highway.
Downside - Does not behave like a land-rover off-road. he he. That's expected.
When my mechanic saw it for the first time, he advised me to dispose it soonest and get a Toyota. With time, he has changed opinion.
I also think to some extent driving skill might be the 50% that makes one form a good or bad opinion regarding a car brand.
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