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simonkabz wrote:tycho wrote:Juche, is a philosophy used by the people of the Democratic republic of Korea. Or North Korea. It is based on a human centered dialectic where the human is the principle actor and decider of his fate. It is a philosophy of 'self reliance'. Ultimate human responsibility in historical and cultural context. By offering a complete and consistent Juche, then am offering a critique and an illumination of the Korean philosophy, and extending it to all the people of the world. That is, we are discussing a philosophical and political system that is complete and consistent at 'all times'. The explanation is even worse  Wacha tu ibaki juche In what way is the explanation 'worse'? How would a good explanation look like? Why didn't you make it? Come @Simon, let's have some dialogue.
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tycho wrote:simonkabz wrote:tycho wrote:Juche, is a philosophy used by the people of the Democratic republic of Korea. Or North Korea. It is based on a human centered dialectic where the human is the principle actor and decider of his fate. It is a philosophy of 'self reliance'. Ultimate human responsibility in historical and cultural context. By offering a complete and consistent Juche, then am offering a critique and an illumination of the Korean philosophy, and extending it to all the people of the world. That is, we are discussing a philosophical and political system that is complete and consistent at 'all times'. The explanation is even worse Wacha tu ibaki juche In what way is the explanation 'worse'? How would a good explanation look like? Why didn't you make it? Come @Simon, let's have some dialogue. Tycho, been a busy day for me. I already have a headache and I dont want to make it worse! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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simonkabz wrote:tycho wrote:simonkabz wrote:tycho wrote:Juche, is a philosophy used by the people of the Democratic republic of Korea. Or North Korea. It is based on a human centered dialectic where the human is the principle actor and decider of his fate. It is a philosophy of 'self reliance'. Ultimate human responsibility in historical and cultural context. By offering a complete and consistent Juche, then am offering a critique and an illumination of the Korean philosophy, and extending it to all the people of the world. That is, we are discussing a philosophical and political system that is complete and consistent at 'all times'. The explanation is even worse Wacha tu ibaki juche In what way is the explanation 'worse'? How would a good explanation look like? Why didn't you make it? Come @Simon, let's have some dialogue. Tycho, been a busy day for me. I already have a headache and I dont want to make it worse! I'd call you 'saich' in happy and friendly moments. Like now. So, saich, mbona ukichengwa hautulii? There's no rule compelling you to respond now! You can sleep on it even for three days! And take a headache vaccine.
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tycho wrote:simonkabz wrote:tycho wrote:simonkabz wrote:tycho wrote:Juche, is a philosophy used by the people of the Democratic republic of Korea. Or North Korea. It is based on a human centered dialectic where the human is the principle actor and decider of his fate. It is a philosophy of 'self reliance'. Ultimate human responsibility in historical and cultural context. By offering a complete and consistent Juche, then am offering a critique and an illumination of the Korean philosophy, and extending it to all the people of the world. That is, we are discussing a philosophical and political system that is complete and consistent at 'all times'. The explanation is even worse Wacha tu ibaki juche In what way is the explanation 'worse'? How would a good explanation look like? Why didn't you make it? Come @Simon, let's have some dialogue. Tycho, been a busy day for me. I already have a headache and I dont want to make it worse! I'd call you 'saich' in happy and friendly moments. Like now. So, saich, mbona ukichengwa hautulii? There's no rule compelling you to respond now! You can sleep on it even for three days! And take a headache vaccine. Laugh Laugh Laugh
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:One, of some, things I know is the 'untouchables'. Caste. This is a negative contribution to and of the indegenous thought. Worse than Africans. Show me how. Hahaha! And even show me if that caste system doesn't apply to the current pseudo-progressive thinking in the African mind. Again, let me remind you that we are talking about indegnous cultivation and use of knowledge to resolve 'problems' and ensure the people involved have an opportunity to flourish, experience justice, exert responsibilities, and enjoy meaningful lives. By this, the caste system still qualifies. What doesn't qualify is the African trying her best not to be African in dressing, in knowledge, manners, and tastes. That's one preposterous contradiction. It's condemning yourself to death. In the caste system, the untouchable can hope to be a Brahmin through reincarnation. But poor African. What can he hope to be in the next life. Some say that in heaven 'we' shall be crowned differently. For some there will be golden crowns, others paper crowns, each according to merit. Now pause and ask, what crown can the African hope to wear? If his/her essence is so repugnant? Some kinds of thinking offer the African no hope. That is incomplete. Selective. Downgrading ought to be a possibility as well. Then also stagnation. Both, not advertised by the faithful, nevertheless logically must be. The African fares better with his paper crown.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:One, of some, things I know is the 'untouchables'. Caste. This is a negative contribution to and of the indegenous thought. Worse than Africans. Show me how. Hahaha! And even show me if that caste system doesn't apply to the current pseudo-progressive thinking in the African mind. Again, let me remind you that we are talking about indegnous cultivation and use of knowledge to resolve 'problems' and ensure the people involved have an opportunity to flourish, experience justice, exert responsibilities, and enjoy meaningful lives. By this, the caste system still qualifies. What doesn't qualify is the African trying her best not to be African in dressing, in knowledge, manners, and tastes. That's one preposterous contradiction. It's condemning yourself to death. In the caste system, the untouchable can hope to be a Brahmin through reincarnation. But poor African. What can he hope to be in the next life. Some say that in heaven 'we' shall be crowned differently. For some there will be golden crowns, others paper crowns, each according to merit. Now pause and ask, what crown can the African hope to wear? If his/her essence is so repugnant? Some kinds of thinking offer the African no hope. That is incomplete. Selective. Downgrading ought to be a possibility as well. Then also stagnation. Both, not advertised by the faithful, nevertheless logically must be. The African fares better with his paper crown. Can you prove your humanity to me? I doubt if a free human could say what you've just said. Why? Your words affirm what you are negating. Nonsense masquerading as sense. The speech of the dead. If, the African is better of with a paper crown, the Gospel of his salvation can't be true. Heaven has no justice. You're living in a fool's paradise. But you have no problem with it because you're in a suit and drinking chocolate and makati. H.M. Stanley rejoiced that he could eat canned food, marks of civilization distinct from the barbaric African world.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:One, of some, things I know is the 'untouchables'. Caste. This is a negative contribution to and of the indegenous thought. Worse than Africans. Show me how. Hahaha! And even show me if that caste system doesn't apply to the current pseudo-progressive thinking in the African mind. Again, let me remind you that we are talking about indegnous cultivation and use of knowledge to resolve 'problems' and ensure the people involved have an opportunity to flourish, experience justice, exert responsibilities, and enjoy meaningful lives. By this, the caste system still qualifies. What doesn't qualify is the African trying her best not to be African in dressing, in knowledge, manners, and tastes. That's one preposterous contradiction. It's condemning yourself to death. In the caste system, the untouchable can hope to be a Brahmin through reincarnation. But poor African. What can he hope to be in the next life. Some say that in heaven 'we' shall be crowned differently. For some there will be golden crowns, others paper crowns, each according to merit. Now pause and ask, what crown can the African hope to wear? If his/her essence is so repugnant? Some kinds of thinking offer the African no hope. That is incomplete. Selective. Downgrading ought to be a possibility as well. Then also stagnation. Both, not advertised by the faithful, nevertheless logically must be. The African fares better with his paper crown. Degradation isn't African. What's African? I see we may not be talking about the same thing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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In the Judeo-Christian tradition, and of all humanity, the tree of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil is 'Logic'. And the tree of life, is 'Language'.
Fear, and shame arise when humans are alienated from themselves when logic shows their limits and the deep essentials of language are forgotten.
And there does the African find the source of all fear, his backwardness, and degradation.
And alas, how hard do the Africans work to keep themselves in chains? Very hard. With blood and sweat and 'haughty' attitude, and false knowledge do they condemn themselves!
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I would like to digress a bit.
Throughout historical anecdotes, we have black people everywhere- China, Japan, Europe, India Egypt, Israel etc,
Then there was a massive migrations as the barbarian horde persecuted and enslaved them - mohenjo daro was destroyed by Hindus who created a caste system to discriminate against others (read color),
Arabs and Europeans in Israel, Egypt and now in Sudan resulting in dilution of race and color,
that's why we see Africans in Australia , Samoa. India, Arabia etc.
does that not explain why we fled and hid in isolated places e.g forests, deserts, islands to escape their hatred and persecution?
if you have traveled you will notice black people in places you would not imagine.
does this not beg the question, were we not there in those lands in the first place?
i believe we had a narrative and a civilized existence before the persecutions and this was destroyed when we run and just like the refugee who looses everything even his history, identity, and narrative in a few Generations we also lost ours.
We should try actively to search for our long lost history and try to identify with those black brothers out there who even themselves don't know how they ended there.
Then we might find some answers of who were are and why we are here at the present living the white mans life.
By the way Tycho the Bible belongs to us not the White Man
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