@BamBam,

Eti,Zap for zip manufacturer......lol......You get yourself a place in the book of SK nuts.



Yombo dhier....!!

' Gordon Gecko,

If you say that I am pulling your legs,mimi nitasema kuwa umetubeba na unakimbia nasi tukiwa mgongoni mwako. First,I said Boeing are more sensible and merket oriented focusing instead on efficiency,passenger safety and comfort. It is TRUE that the 777 is larger than the 787- Ok maybe I shouldn't have used little difference. and by the way there is no ordinary 787 simply because there is no single 787 in commercial service todate.

And the other reason why most airlines out of Europe prefer Boeing is becase the are relatively more mechanical (engineer) friendly. Many Eurpoean airlines buy Airbus simply to support local industries. Of course not entirely because there are a number of American carriers that operate Airbus,although on alesser scale. But in Europe,KLM,Ryan Air,Austrian,Lufthansa,Air Berlin,Alitalia,e.t.c have many Boeings because it favours their needs. Gosh even Aeroflot (Russian) with the hate for America have 11 B 767 ERs and have made 22 orders for the dreamliners. RyanAir is all-Boeing fleet.

British Airways and Air France,who you would expect to have an all Airbus fleet have about 50% and 26% respectively of their fleets being Boeing and have firmed more orders for the 787,when you would expect them to have placed orders for the A350 or A330 which is comparable to the 787.

Someone quipped 'If I relate to French cars and French wine,then I'd fly Boeing any time'! Of course I loved peugeot but it was funny.



What a bam bam?

@Smano

The A380 has already began commercial services..Emirates is flying from Dubai to Heathrow,Toronto,Sydney,Auckland and Bangkok..They have discontinued services to NY. Qantas has a service to Sydney as well.

@BamBam

Two A380's in a mid air collision,don't you think that is a bit far fetched ..here's why:

In November 2006,the ICAO issued new interim recommendations. Replacing a blanket 10 nautical miles (19 km) separation for aircraft trailing an A380 during approach,the new distances were 6 nmi (11 km),8 nmi (15 km) and 10 nmi (19 km) respectively for non-A380 'Heavy','Medium',and 'Light' ICAO aircraft categories.

These compared with the 4 nmi (7.4 km),5 nmi (9.3 km) and 6 nmi (11 km) spacing applicable to other 'Heavy' aircraft. Another A380 following an A380 should maintain a separation of 4 nmi (7.4 km). On departure behind an A380,non-A380 'Heavy' aircraft are required to wait two minutes,and 'Medium'/'Light' aircraft three minutes for time based operations. The ICAO also recommends that pilots append the term 'Super' to the aircraft's callsign when initiating communication with air traffic control,in order to distinguish the A380 from 'Heavy' aircraft.

In August 2008,the ICAO issued revised approach separations of 4 nmi (7.4 km) for Super (another A380),6 nmi (11 km) for Heavy,7 nmi (13 km) for medium/small,and 8 nmi (15 km) for light.

Also regarding the failure history of the vertical fins on the A300 - series aircraft infact an analysis of its structure at the point of failure will likely yield the primary cause factor in the breakup of the aircraft in the earlier Air France case.

I hope this latest incidence will force the issue to be addressed requiring a minimum restricted operations of selected platforms and grounding some high-time aircraft until a re-engineered vertical/fin rudder attachment can be incorporated.

The fin failure leading to break up has reached alarming levels at Airbus Industires.

On a different note i have the MS 2008 simulator..on DVD i have landed the A380 with 2 failed engines and a broken front landing gear..any one want to better that!!!!




Success is not measured by what you accomplish,but by the opposition you have encountered and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against the overwhelming odds'

I believe guys are getting carried over........compare the number of accidents we have had in the last 10 years and i believe i would be more comfortable in an airbus than in a boeing. From the airbus desk they say that the recent plane had lastly been serviced a whooping 19 years ago,which man can stay for more than a month without service and still perform normaly...........

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@Feish,the crashed airliner couldn't have done 19 years without service- Just like your car,the thing will simply not take off. If anything Yemenia have only had it from 1999. Granted the jet had issues and had been banned from EU airspace since 2007 so the clever Yemenis used a newer A340 on the Charle-De Gaule to Sa'na stretch and then bundled the unsuspecting passengers into the death trap headed for Moroni. But one thing most airlines will tell you is that it is cheaper and easier to keep a Boeing airworthy than it is to do an Airbus,Antonovs or Illyushin. Lots of the accident involving Boeings will be associated with the B737 which is also the most widely used commercial jet. And most of such accident caused by instrument,mechanical or engine failure have involved very old and poor maintained 737s- Most of these will be found in Asia and some parts of africa e.g Somalia,sudan,Nigeria,Congo and Cameroun where some funny airlines operate like boats on L. Victoria or the ordinary Number 58 or 9 matatu. They sometimes drop one passenger and take off immediately. For instance KQ retired its old but the very well maintained B737-200 fleet a few years ago. Some of these are bought by these funny airlines and in a year's time the jet has deteriorated to a flying coffin. So be very careful when flying around in Africa and Asia and South America where possible keeping to the likes of KQ,SAA,Ethiopian or Egypt Air even if you have to pay more. Some of the aircraft that fly into JKIA e.g linhas aereas de mocambique (mozambique airlines) are not allowed into EU airspace for safety reasons.

In early 2008,a woman refused to board a yemeni Airbus citing poor safety conditions on the craft and wasnt she thouroughy roughed up by the Yemeni cops.

@ Ric dees,the separation protocols are meant to prevent aircrashes caused by wake turbulence left behind by a the vortex from wings and engine thrust of a bigger plane. If you flew,attempted to land or take off immediateley (less than three minutes) an ATR 42 or even a B737 right behind an Antonov,B777 or an A340,your plane will be tossed and for sure all of you and your passengers will be toast. so for mamoths like the A 380,there will be longer waiting times espeacially if the next aircraft on taxi was something as small as the SAAB 40 or one of the Wilson based tuk tuks.

The likelihood of a mid air collision is real. I once was able to read the livery off a KLM City Hopper that zoomed past us in a B767 over German airspace. This is common around most busy airports in Eurpoe. Below,us and also ahead,there was a fresh plume suggesting that two other jets had just crossed that area.



What a bam bam?

Where is comoros? they should shift to KQ through mauritius.

There is nothing between an Airbus and a Boeing in terms of safety. Boeing has more accidents coz it is widely used commercially. Airbus accidents will be on the rise as their popularity rises to match that of boeing.

The decision by boeing and Airbus on the size of planes to build were based on their analysis and prediction of where the air industry is headed.

Boeing are basing their future on the 787 concept of more people travelling shorthaul flights btn cities like the US domestic air industry (It assumes that governments will deregulate international flights to allow for point to point landings e.g Heathrow to Mombasa by BA).

While Airbus have based their future on flights being on a HUB to HUB basis and that airlines will require huge planes (eg A380) to sweep customers from its hubs to another hub,like what KQ is developing at JKIA,it assumes that regulations on point to point flights will still be based on the current system that among other things protects inefficient airlines and keeps the airtravel artificially high by forcing people to travel to designated international entry airports.


I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous

This are jus man made crafts if people die all the time with road carnage the plane is can also be faulty. problem is where they decide to do their thing .. water,forest,the bermuda triangle

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