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2012
#1 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 6:42:15 PM
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I remember when we were kids one packet of medicine syrup or tablet is what we got. Now when I take my kid or I go to hospital myself, I leave with a manila paperbag full. Kenchic uses a smaller paper to pack a meal. What happened? Did immunity increase or medicine got weaker or more money is made this way?

BBI will solve it
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washiku
#2 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 6:50:54 PM
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2012 wrote:
I remember when we were kids one packet of medicine syrup or tablet is what we got. Now when I take my kid or I go to hospital myself, I leave with a manila paperbag full. Kenchic uses a smaller paper to pack a meal. What happened? Did immunity increase or medicine got weaker or more money is made this way?


Appetite for money increased. Its all about that medical card you carry with you while at it.
Gathige
#3 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 8:00:17 PM
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2012 wrote:
I remember when we were kids one packet of medicine syrup or tablet is what we got. Now when I take my kid or I go to hospital myself, I leave with a manila paperbag full. Kenchic uses a smaller paper to pack a meal. What happened? Did immunity increase or medicine got weaker or more money is made this way?



@2012, Some tablets were so powerful ,one had to be divided into four parts with a dose of like a quarter per day! Nowadays u see pple swallow like a handful of tablets at a go u may think they want to daze an elephant. There was a lethal one called suta capsules and one needed to pretend to be collapsing for the shopkeeper aka village pharmacist to sell to you.
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Rankaz13
#4 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 8:58:19 PM
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2012 wrote:
I remember when we were kids one packet of medicine syrup or tablet is what we got. Now when I take my kid or I go to hospital myself, I leave with a manila paperbag full. Kenchic uses a smaller paper to pack a meal. What happened? Did immunity increase or medicine got weaker or more money is made this way?



Misuse is the problem. My dad tells me that when piriton tablets first appeared in the market, adults would get a dose of only half a tablet and even then, staying awake was an uphill problem. Today, I've seen fellows who claim even two aren't enough to knock them down.

Secondly, some of what you get is actually just placebos that you can comfortably do without, a good example being cough syrups. Do a small experiment: note some of the contents of these cough syrups and look them up. You'll be shocked to find some that combine antitussives and expectorants in the same formulation, which sort of beats the purpose.

Thirdly, as someone has alluded up there, the financial motive has, unfortunately, infiltrated the sector. A couple of factors and examples here:

- patient insistence. How often have you heard of cases of patients insisting to the clinician to give them a certain medication? Happens quite commonly actually. To this day, we still have folks who believe that kama hawajadungwa sindano basi hawajatibiwa. I tell you, it's an uphill task trying to convince such a person that injections are only reserved for emergencies or for medicines that only come in injectable form.

- I have a pal who used to locum in one of the top pediatric hospitals in Nbi. He once told me a story of a young kid who happened to fall down in their house while playing with siblings and sprained his arm. Kid was literally escorted to hospital by the entire clan including grandparents. The minute they got to hospital, they demanded all sorts of tests including an MRI, yet clinician could clearly see this was a simple sprain deserving of just a crepe bandage and some rest. And you know what? If you hesitate, you're threatened with all sorts of consequences.

- another clinician tells me of a story he experienced today. Due to the anthrax scare that happened in Embu county, he happened to receive a patient who apparently claimed to have bought meat from one of them guys. Upon examination and lab tests, she seemed ok and in no need of medication. It proved so difficult to convince her of that fact that eventually he caved in and prescribed a totally unnecessary antibiotic.

reminds me of the numerous times it has proved nigh impossible to convince patients that they do not need any medication.

- another aspect that comes in here is the issue of cost. Back in the day when doing my internship, I recall this guy who walked in and obviously needed a simple antibiotic for his chest infection. At the time, a 5-day course of Cotrimoxazole (what you know as Septrin, a cheap but effective antibiotic) would cost about 50 - 100 bob depending on brand. But the clinician at the time ended up prescribing a rather expensive antibiotic (I forget which one exactly) that cost the patient about 500/=. Upon enquiry, it turned out that most patients didn't value cheap drugs and that most tended to associate cheap drugs with poor quality. I was dumbfounded!!

Fourthly, I have observed over time that a significant number of Kenyans have a very casual approach towards their health. Often times, you see a guy with a simple, treatable ailment who delays in seeking medical attention in good time and by the time they finally make their way to hospital, a simple thing that'd have been treated easily has complicated into something else requiring multiple drug therapy over a long period. A good example is a simple URTI which if left unattended morphs into a LRTI.

And finally, I've recently followed up n some cases brought to light of how some HMOs huko kwa kina @Kiash that apparently deny patients essential care and treatment ostensibly to save the company cash, some even rewarding employees who issue or authorize such denials.
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#5 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 10:22:14 PM
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Gathige wrote:
2012 wrote:
I remember when we were kids one packet of medicine syrup or tablet is what we got. Now when I take my kid or I go to hospital myself, I leave with a manila paperbag full. Kenchic uses a smaller paper to pack a meal. What happened? Did immunity increase or medicine got weaker or more money is made this way?



@2012, Some tablets were so powerful ,one had to be divided into four parts with a dose of like a quarter per day! Nowadays u see pple swallow like a handful of tablets at a go u may think they want to daze an elephant. There was a lethal one called suta capsules and one needed to pretend to be collapsing for the shopkeeper aka village pharmacist to sell to you.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly, breaking it into 4 equal parts was no easy task.
My mum was an expert in breaking and crushing,most disgusting was crushing the bitter thing on a spoon,adding h20 and stirring.The phobia for med persists till date.
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#6 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 10:53:51 PM
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2012 wrote:
I remember when we were kids one packet of medicine syrup or tablet is what we got. Now when I take my kid or I go to hospital myself, I leave with a manila paperbag full. Kenchic uses a smaller paper to pack a meal. What happened? Did immunity increase or medicine got weaker or more money is made this way?


As Doc Rankaz13 said up there, most citizens are casual about their health. So when you bring your child to hospital, this is the time to slip them a vitamin D supplement to prevent against rickets, an albendazole syrup to flush those worms out, some multivitamins to take care of any deficiencies, etcetera etcetera. smile

Docs in private hospitals have targets to meet. Say KES 100,000 a day. If they don't, they are declared redundant. So they have to send you to the Labs or Radiography for unnecessary tests or the Pharmacy for meds you do not actually need.
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kysse
#7 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 10:55:49 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:

reminds me of the numerous times it has proved nigh impossible to convince patients that they do not need any medication.
tucucus and tugukas are very fond of this bad behaviour.
I know one who used to demand for a head to toe x-ray everytime they took her to hosi.


And finally, I've recently followed up n some cases brought to light of how some HMOs huko kwa kina @Kiash that apparently deny patients essential care and treatment ostensibly to save the company cash, some even rewarding employees who issue or authorize such denials. SICKO.

Mukiri
#8 Posted : Saturday, May 31, 2014 2:50:32 AM
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Let food be thy medicine. Otherwise you are just helping a doctor meet their targets and/or sating an assumption (ati patients don't value cheap medicine) ABK

Proverbs 19:21
Pesa Nane
#9 Posted : Saturday, May 31, 2014 8:44:34 AM
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kysse wrote:

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly, breaking it into 4 equal parts was no easy task.
My mum was an expert in breaking and crushing,most disgusting was crushing the bitter thing on a (tea) spoon,adding h20 and stirring.The phobia for med persists till date.

Woe unto you if you were the one to add in the two drops of water into the crushed pill and did'nt have steady hands.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
kysse
#10 Posted : Saturday, May 31, 2014 9:50:17 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
kysse wrote:

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly, breaking it into 4 equal parts was no easy task.
My mum was an expert in breaking and crushing,most disgusting was crushing the bitter thing on a (tea) spoon,adding h20 and stirring.The phobia for med persists till date.

Woe unto you if you were the one to add in the two drops of water into the crushed pill and did'nt have steady hands.


Woe? it was my biggest joy smile esp if it was the only tab.

In my whole life,I have never finished a 'dose'.
Injection fine,tabs are a NO NO. Even if you prescribe tabs they will end up expiring.
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