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NIS Officer Job Description What NIS officers are doing instead of looking for al shabaab. BK!!! Quote:LAMU, KENYA: A senior civil servant in Lamu County has been arrested by police for allegedly insulting President Uhuru Kenyatta during a debate.
The official, who has since been suspended from the Forest department, has been charged in a Lamu court. However, the wording of the charge is not clear.
He is accused of uttering the alleged insult inside a popular bar in Lamu West two months ago. The charges were pressed later.
Scanty details
Details of the arrest and charges remain scanty and it is not clear when the officer was arrested and suspended, although the Kenya Forest Service (KFS) has confirmed that Donald Avude is facing a court charge.
Yesterday, Lamu County Police Commander Leonard Omolo confirmed that the forest official was arrested following the incident.
Mr Avude is the Ecosystems Conservator in charge of Lamu County, according to Kenya Forest Service’s Information Officer Anne Kaari who told The Standard yesterday evening that “the matter involving the incident in which he was involved is before court,” and added, “we cannot comment further over a matter that is before court.”
Avude is believed to come from Busia but it is not clear whether he was still in Lamu.
Ms Kaari said she was not aware if he had been suspended, adding that only KFS directors could disclose the details.
But others were more forthcoming about Avude’s situation.
“We have already taken the man to court where he has now to fight against the accusation,” Mr Omolo told The Standard, adding that the civil servant was “reckless after drinking beer and is someone who talks without respect for his Head of State.”
The Forest officer is said to have uttered the words against President Kenyatta during a heated debate that was recorded by a National Intelligence Security officer.
The record will be used against him in court.
“The man has appeared before a magistrate in Mpeketoni, which led to his suspension from work,” said Omolo.Avude was arrested and charged amid grumbling from civil servants in the area who said he was only exercising his fundamental rights as found in the freedom of speech and his utterances were not offensive.
Some civil servants who spoke to The Standard said the matter had been hushed up because Government officials feared a backlash.
The Standard was unable to get the exact wording of the charge against Avude due to bureaucracy.
Last month, Kisii County Assembly member Samuel Apoko was charged with uttering contemptuous words that demeaned President Kenyatta.
He was accused of saying that “those close to President Uhuru Kenyatta should advise him to stop smoking bhang”.
Apoko, who represents Riogoro Ward, denied the charges.
According to reports, Apoko uttered the words at Kerera village in Kisii County on August 28, last year.
According to Section 132 of the Penal Code, it is illegal to undermine the authority of a public officer. It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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bkismat wrote: What NIS officers are doing instead of looking for al shabaab. BK!!! Quote:LAMU, KENYA: A senior civil servant in Lamu County has been arrested by police for allegedly insulting President Uhuru Kenyatta during a debate.
The official, who has since been suspended from the Forest department, has been charged in a Lamu court. However, the wording of the charge is not clear.
He is accused of uttering the alleged insult inside a popular bar in Lamu West two months ago. The charges were pressed later.
Scanty details
Details of the arrest and charges remain scanty and it is not clear when the officer was arrested and suspended, although the Kenya Forest Service (KFS) has confirmed that Donald Avude is facing a court charge.
Yesterday, Lamu County Police Commander Leonard Omolo confirmed that the forest official was arrested following the incident.
Mr Avude is the Ecosystems Conservator in charge of Lamu County, according to Kenya Forest Service’s Information Officer Anne Kaari who told The Standard yesterday evening that “the matter involving the incident in which he was involved is before court,” and added, “we cannot comment further over a matter that is before court.”
Avude is believed to come from Busia but it is not clear whether he was still in Lamu.
Ms Kaari said she was not aware if he had been suspended, adding that only KFS directors could disclose the details.
But others were more forthcoming about Avude’s situation.
“We have already taken the man to court where he has now to fight against the accusation,” Mr Omolo told The Standard, adding that the civil servant was “reckless after drinking beer and is someone who talks without respect for his Head of State.”
The Forest officer is said to have uttered the words against President Kenyatta during a heated debate that was recorded by a National Intelligence Security officer.
The record will be used against him in court.
“The man has appeared before a magistrate in Mpeketoni, which led to his suspension from work,” said Omolo.Avude was arrested and charged amid grumbling from civil servants in the area who said he was only exercising his fundamental rights as found in the freedom of speech and his utterances were not offensive.
Some civil servants who spoke to The Standard said the matter had been hushed up because Government officials feared a backlash.
The Standard was unable to get the exact wording of the charge against Avude due to bureaucracy.
Last month, Kisii County Assembly member Samuel Apoko was charged with uttering contemptuous words that demeaned President Kenyatta.
He was accused of saying that “those close to President Uhuru Kenyatta should advise him to stop smoking bhang”.
Apoko, who represents Riogoro Ward, denied the charges.
According to reports, Apoko uttered the words at Kerera village in Kisii County on August 28, last year.
According to Section 132 of the Penal Code, it is illegal to undermine the authority of a public officer. May be the guy said he would contract Al shabbab to "+(!#)(*$%^&" PORK If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
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When someone works for the public service they are bound by the public service code of conduct, and employment ethics. And they can't go abusing their overall boss, the president, whom they are working on behalf of. Even in the private sector an employee is never allowed to go around abusing the ceo. Part of the job of the nsis is to gather intelligence regarding saboteurs within govt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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jaggernaut wrote:When someone works for the public service they are bound by the public service code of conduct, and employment ethics. And they can't go abusing their overall boss, the president, whom they are working on behalf of. Even in the private sector an employee is never allowed to go around abusing the ceo. Part of the job of the nsis is to gather intelligence regarding saboteurs within govt. Under which law is he being accused. Insulting the boss of bosses? The negro is an enigma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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poundfoolish wrote:jaggernaut wrote:When someone works for the public service they are bound by the public service code of conduct, and employment ethics. And they can't go abusing their overall boss, the president, whom they are working on behalf of. Even in the private sector an employee is never allowed to go around abusing the ceo. Part of the job of the nsis is to gather intelligence regarding saboteurs within govt. Under which law is he being accused. Insulting the boss of bosses? The negro is an enigma hehehe, that guy's name betrayed him!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Somewhere the rain started beating us and we don't seem to see it. There is something about this that reminds of the days of KANU when akina my dad were even afraid of talking in their own houses because the wall have ears. WHO DARES WINS
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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NSIS should be at baba's rally tmr to note any public servants going to welcome him. You can't be employed by jumbiree while your allegiance is elsewhere.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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poundfoolish wrote:jaggernaut wrote:When someone works for the public service they are bound by the public service code of conduct, and employment ethics. And they can't go abusing their overall boss, the president, whom they are working on behalf of. Even in the private sector an employee is never allowed to go around abusing the ceo. Part of the job of the nsis is to gather intelligence regarding saboteurs within govt. Under which law is he being accused. Insulting the boss of bosses? The negro is an enigma He has broken many laws, including: - threatening the head of state - insubordination -incitement - being drunk and disorderly - breach of peace - breaking mututho law by drinking outside the approved hrs ie before 5pm and after 11pm, also driving while intoxicated
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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jaggernaut wrote:poundfoolish wrote:jaggernaut wrote:When someone works for the public service they are bound by the public service code of conduct, and employment ethics. And they can't go abusing their overall boss, the president, whom they are working on behalf of. Even in the private sector an employee is never allowed to go around abusing the ceo. Part of the job of the nsis is to gather intelligence regarding saboteurs within govt. Under which law is he being accused. Insulting the boss of bosses? The negro is an enigma He has broken many laws, including: - threatening the head of state - insubordination -incitement - being drunk and disorderly - breach of peace - breaking mututho law by drinking outside the approved hrs ie before 5pm and after 11pm, also driving while intoxicated So what happened to the head of state when insulted? Did he lose his IQ? Did he grow an ugly pimple on the face? What?
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Rank: Elder You have been a member since:: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,908
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Waaah! Just came across this matter. Betrayed by his 'drinking friends'. I can't find even a clue of the actual insult online. Quite polarising considering the treatment of Moses Kuria thus far.
Many could be incarcerated for this crime.
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