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Ulcers - What to eat
Rollins
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:03:41 PM
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My mum was diagnosed with ulcers. The doctors says its been there for loong ( she has been complaining of lower abdomen pain for almost 6 years). She was advised on what to avoid eating. What she does know is which food to eat. Please advise what we can buy given;

She is elderly- nearing 70
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Rollins
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:13:23 PM
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Hakuna wazuans ako na idea what to eat while on ulcers?

Mokiri, kysse??
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#3 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:16:42 PM
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Cabbages and carrots. If you have a grinder it will be better. Non acidic fruits will be great too.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:44:34 PM
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If she has been told what not to eat then how comes its hard for you to know what she should eat?

Si I thought 5-2=3?

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#5 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:53:33 PM
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Rollins wrote:
My mum was diagnosed with ulcers. The doctors says its been there for loong ( she has been complaining of lower abdomen pain for almost 6 years). She was advised on what to avoid eating. What she does know is which food to eat. Please advise what we can buy given;

She is elderly- nearing 70
Stays in shags..



I have had ulcers for years now, maybe 20yrs, usually it's trigged by anything, I have my own triggers and she will probably have her own, they heal after a couple of days then come back when you get intouch with the triggers, so she has to just understand her triggers and stay away from them and also get over the counter anti-acids and if she is in pain there are prescription she can take for a couple of days and the ulcers will go away.

Bykhovets
#6 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:02:11 PM
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I hope she had a proper OGD done (they pass a tube down the food pipe and take pictures of the stomach; and cut samples for the lab too). A 70 year old lady with a recent 6 year history of dyspepsia might be chronic gastritis which leads to a tumour in the stomach.

Anyway, it is not so much what to eat or not to eat, being on a drug that lowers acidity levels in the tummy is the most beneficial approach. Say a PPI for 3 months continuously with or without antacids.
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Impunity
#7 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:22:43 PM
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Bykhovets wrote:
I hope she had a proper OGD done (they pass a tube down the food pipe and take pictures of the stomach; and cut samples for the lab too). A 70 year old lady with a recent 6 year history of dyspepsia might be chronic gastritis which leads to a tumour in the stomach.

Anyway, it is not so much what to eat or not to eat, being on a drug that lowers acidity levels in the tummy is the most beneficial approach. Say a PPI for 3 months continuously with or without antacids.


This is done cheaply at St Marys Otiende, LA, Kes.3,500...ukienda Aga Khan they wont shy away charging you Kes. 15K.

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#8 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:38:04 PM
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Rollins wrote:
Hakuna wazuans ako na idea what to eat while on ulcers?

Mokiri, kysse??

I assume that is me?

Buy FIDO jars (at Nakumatt), Juice cabbages. One jar put the cabbage juice

The other put the pulp + filtered water + Salt (1 1/2 tablespoon per liter of water) Himalayan salt is best.


Let the juice sit/ferment for 3 days. Then let her drink, morning noon and night time AND whenever she gets the tummy pains.

Let the pulp ferment for a month. Suture and eat a small potion before all meals.

Buy enough jars to ensure continuity of the process.

Clean up her diet (A long topic,if you want me to get into it)

IF SHE STILL HAS ULCERS AFTER TWO WEEKS OF THIS, COME HERE AND CALL ME A CHARLATAN.

Proverbs 19:21
kysse
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:01:13 PM
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Rollins wrote:
Hakuna wazuans ako na idea what to eat while on ulcers?

kysse??


woi rollins pole I am naive.

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#10 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 9:38:14 AM
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Whah hiyo ya @mukiri ni kali. If it helps, well and good!
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#11 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 9:52:40 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
Rollins wrote:
Hakuna wazuans ako na idea what to eat while on ulcers?

Mokiri, kysse??

I assume that is me?

Buy FIDO jars (at Nakumatt), Juice cabbages. One jar put the cabbage juice

The other put the pulp + filtered water + Salt (1 1/2 tablespoon per liter of water) Himalayan salt is best.


Let the juice sit/ferment for 3 days. Then let her drink, morning noon and night time AND whenever she gets the tummy pains.

Let the pulp ferment for a month. Suture and eat a small potion before all meals.

Buy enough jars to ensure continuity of the process.

Clean up her diet (A long topic,if you want me to get into it)

IF SHE STILL HAS ULCERS AFTER TWO WEEKS OF THIS, COME HERE AND CALL ME A CHARLATAN.



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#12 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 10:11:24 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
Rollins wrote:
Hakuna wazuans ako na idea what to eat while on ulcers?

Mokiri, kysse??

I assume that is me?

Buy FIDO jars (at Nakumatt), Juice cabbages. One jar put the cabbage juice

The other put the pulp + filtered water + Salt (1 1/2 tablespoon per liter of water) Himalayan salt is best.


Let the juice sit/ferment for 3 days. Then let her drink, morning noon and night time AND whenever she gets the tummy pains.

Let the pulp ferment for a month. Suture and eat a small potion before all meals.

Buy enough jars to ensure continuity of the process.

Clean up her diet (A long topic,if you want me to get into it)

IF SHE STILL HAS ULCERS AFTER TWO WEEKS OF THIS, COME HERE AND CALL ME A CHARLATAN.


Do you refrigerate this concoction? what is Himalayan salt and where do u buy the stuff?
Gathige
#13 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 10:30:38 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
Rollins wrote:
Hakuna wazuans ako na idea what to eat while on ulcers?

Mokiri, kysse??

I assume that is me?

Buy FIDO jars (at Nakumatt), Juice cabbages. One jar put the cabbage juice

The other put the pulp + filtered water + Salt (1 1/2 tablespoon per liter of water) Himalayan salt is best.


Let the juice sit/ferment for 3 days. Then let her drink, morning noon and night time AND whenever she gets the tummy pains.

Let the pulp ferment for a month. Suture and eat a small potion before all meals.

Buy enough jars to ensure continuity of the process.

Clean up her diet (A long topic,if you want me to get into it)

IF SHE STILL HAS ULCERS AFTER TWO WEEKS OF THIS, COME HERE AND CALL ME A CHARLATAN.


Thanks, @Mukiri. One concern i have with vegetables esp in urban areas is the high quality of foliar fertilizers and insecticides used as sprays which end up in the human food chain.

Unless the vegetables are naturally grown, someone might come back and call you a charlatan by default. There is an organic mkt somewhere in Karen and might be a good source of vegetable esp for the raw vegans.

Personally, i take raw diets, but sometimes when in doubt, i boil just to be safe!
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Rollins
#14 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 1:50:53 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Rollins wrote:
Hakuna wazuans ako na idea what to eat while on ulcers?

Mokiri, kysse??

I assume that is me?

Buy FIDO jars (at Nakumatt), Juice cabbages. One jar put the cabbage juice

The other put the pulp + filtered water + Salt (1 1/2 tablespoon per liter of water) Himalayan salt is best.


Let the juice sit/ferment for 3 days. Then let her drink, morning noon and night time AND whenever she gets the tummy pains.

Let the pulp ferment for a month. Suture and eat a small potion before all meals.

Buy enough jars to ensure continuity of the process.

Clean up her diet (A long topic,if you want me to get into it)

IF SHE STILL HAS ULCERS AFTER TWO WEEKS OF THIS, COME HERE AND CALL ME A CHARLATAN.


Thanks, @Mukiri. One concern i have with vegetables esp in urban areas is the high quality of foliar fertilizers and insecticides used as sprays which end up in the human food chain.

Unless the vegetables are naturally grown, someone might come back and call you a charlatan by default. There is an organic mkt somewhere in Karen and might be a good source of vegetable esp for the raw vegans.

Personally, i take raw diets, but sometimes when in doubt, i boil just to be safe!


Thanks Mukiri and sorry for the typo.

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Pesa Nane
#15 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 3:35:45 PM
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Rollins wrote:
My mum was diagnosed with ulcers. The doctors says its been there for loong ( she has been complaining of lower abdomen pain for almost 6 years). She was advised on what to avoid eating. What she does know is which food to eat. Please advise what we can buy given;

She is elderly- nearing 70
Stays in shags..


Wazuans learn to read.
What NOT to eat? Read red text (As she was advised)
What TO eat? Read blue text (What she already knows)

Problem solved. But if I were to assume the problem like all of you, I would bet on @Mukiri (putting money/ reputation where the mouth is)
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Rankaz13
#16 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 9:21:43 PM
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Rollins wrote:
My mum was diagnosed with ulcers. The doctors says its been there for loong ( she has been complaining of lower abdomen pain for almost 6 years). She was advised on what to avoid eating. What she does know is which food to eat. Please advise what we can buy given;

She is elderly- nearing 70
Stays in shags..



Of utmost importance is to identify the cause of the ulcers with a view to addressing the same. For instance, could it be that due to her age she's on some painkillers to address the ever present aches and pains that come with age? Some of these painkillers, commonly known as NSAIDs, frequently manifest this as a side effect on prolonged (mis)use.


Another cause of ulcers could be an infection by the bacteria Helicobacter pylori. A simple lab test can be done to identify this. The infection is perfectly treatable with a cocktail of drugs.

Obviously, diet modification is important to minimize gastric irritation, mainly by avoiding acidic (and other gastric irritant) foods such as citrus fruits, carbonated beverages, pineapples, passion fruits, heavily spiced foods, etc. Additionally, she should never ever miss a meal. If for whatever reason she cannot have her meals at regular times (e.g when travelling), then she should always have a glass of milk.

As someone has alluded up there, you may wanna consider an OGD if the ailment persists. Current guidelines recommend that if a patient treated on two previous occasions for ulcers comes again with what presents as the same on the third visit, then OGD be done prior to initiating treatment. Reason being that often times, cancer of the stomach can present as chronic ulcers only for one to realize when it's too late. I speak from experience here, I lost my grandpa - my absolute most favorite old man in this world - at the young age of 63 to carcinoma of the stomach fundus which had been treated as ulcers for far too long. So, kindly, please follow up on your mum's progress, honor all her clinic appointments and be very interested in her treatment outcomes.

That said, I wish her quick recovery.
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Mukiri
#17 Posted : Saturday, May 31, 2014 3:10:00 AM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
Rollins wrote:
My mum was diagnosed with ulcers. The doctors says its been there for loong ( she has been complaining of lower abdomen pain for almost 6 years). She was advised on what to avoid eating. What she does know is which food to eat. Please advise what we can buy given;

She is elderly- nearing 70
Stays in shags..



Of utmost importance is to identify the cause of the ulcers with a view to addressing the same. For instance, could it be that due to her age she's on some painkillers to address the ever present aches and pains that come with age? Some of these painkillers, commonly known as NSAIDs, frequently manifest this as a side effect on prolonged (mis)use.


Another cause of ulcers could be an infection by the bacteria Helicobacter pylori. A simple lab test can be done to identify this. The infection is perfectly treatable with a cocktail of drugs.

Obviously, diet modification is important to minimize gastric irritation, mainly by avoiding acidic (and other gastric irritant) foods such as citrus fruits, carbonated beverages, pineapples, passion fruits, heavily spiced foods, etc. Additionally, she should never ever miss a meal. If for whatever reason she cannot have her meals at regular times (e.g when travelling), then she should always have a glass of milk.

As someone has alluded up there, you may wanna consider an OGD if the ailment persists. Current guidelines recommend that if a patient treated on two previous occasions for ulcers comes again with what presents as the same on the third visit, then OGD be done prior to initiating treatment. Reason being that often times, cancer of the stomach can present as chronic ulcers only for one to realize when it's too late. I speak from experience here, I lost my grandpa - my absolute most favorite old man in this world - at the young age of 63 to carcinoma of the stomach fundus which had been treated as ulcers for far too long. So, kindly, please follow up on your mum's progress, honor all her clinic appointments and be very interested in her treatment outcomes.

That said, I wish her quick recovery.

Its my prayer that the drugs you refer to are from the Professor you'd mentioned. Natural and made from Bananas. Not the killer combo of antibiotics. Destroying all the internal flora a poor granny has.

@Rollins, my post was on assumption that the Ulcer diagnosis was because of 'H Pylori'
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#18 Posted : Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:29:52 AM
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That Organic Farmers Market goes round town, different locations on different days.

Then there is a restaurant in the neighbourhood of City Market that does organic foods and also sells the products hapo inje.

"School for organic farming" located somewhere in Juja.

If you need contants for the Chair of the Organic Farmers Association....weka email hapa.
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Mukiri
#19 Posted : Saturday, May 31, 2014 7:17:33 AM
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Bigchick wrote:
That Organic Farmers Market goes round town, different locations on different days.

Then there is a restaurant in the neighbourhood of City Market that does organic foods and also sells the products hapo inje.

"School for organic farming" located somewhere in Juja.

If you need contants for the Chair of the Organic Farmers Association....weka email hapa.

Didn't know that, and would really luv that info. Can't you confirm?

The restaurant is called Bridges.

And why hoard the guy's info? Weka hapa, he's a public servant!

Proverbs 19:21
Bigchick
#20 Posted : Saturday, May 31, 2014 8:00:20 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
That Organic Farmers Market goes round town, different locations on different days.

Then there is a restaurant in the neighbourhood of City Market that does organic foods and also sells the products hapo inje.

"School for organic farming" located somewhere in Juja.

If you need contants for the Chair of the Organic Farmers Association....weka email hapa.

Didn't know that, and would really luv that info. Can't you confirm?

The restaurant is called Bridges.

And why hoard the guy's info? Weka hapa, he's a public servant!


Will ask for the office number for the public....but his private number NO.

Even those who will weka Email here will get it after I have informed him.

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