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kysse
#101 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:04:17 PM
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I pray that my children,grandchildren and great grandchildren will marry other races and settle somewhere in the pacific islands.
It's easier dealing with volcanoes,tsunamis and earthquakes than tribalism
captain kirk
#102 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:10:40 PM
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It was just a matter of time before this marriage unravels. The silence from some normally vocal wazuans is defeaning.Where are you hiding?
Rollout
#103 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:29:27 PM
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captain kirk wrote:
Rollout wrote:
I am a Kalenjin(Nandi), I grew up 20KM from Nandi Hills, what I can say is, Kalenjin did not vote for Uhuru because they loved him, they voted from him because:

1) They were made to believe that Uhuru could probably get locked up in ICC effectively making Ruto President; No matter how twisted this sound, alot of Kalenjin actually hoped that.

2) Those who never bought sell point (1) were convienced using a kalenjin phrase that translate to: "If you go hunting with someone, regardless of how you feel about each other, when you catch a deer and your dog was in the game, you'll split the meat."

Those are the two main reasons Kalenjins supported Uhuru! The reality is, reason 1) could be void, reason 2) appear not to be satifying the people. Whats left?.......

If you talk to Kalenjins even the biggest Uhuru/Ruto supporter they'll tell you they know Uhuru will not support Ruto for Presidency and even if he does, it will only be him and probably his wife, they know very well that Ruto will not get even 10% of central province votes...... I am not surprised by the leaflets:

It even anger people more when they listen to people from Central saying the union is Ok and they're having a small fight just like any other family because to them, Central is holding the bread and they're holding the bread bag..... also referred to it as, feeding the cow and someone else is milking it.

Boss, u nailed it. I hope all people on Wazua read this post. Where are those saying all is well. @Mpobiz, @murchr et al.


To add onto that, Kalenjins in ODM/Cord are mostly the educated/elite and mostly liberal ones, most of them live in Nairobi or Diaspora; they're not the problem in RV as in they are less likely to be involve in conflicts/Tribal clashes so if indeed Cord supporters are dropping the leaflets like people here are implying then no one should worry since the ODM agent who dropped the leaflets will not have the soldiers to go to war because the remaining ODM supporter are in Nairobi or Diaspora.

The reality is all the "soldiers" are Ruto's hardcore supporters, they're the youths most of whom are still in the villages struggling and yes they're the one calling the Radio stations and expressing their disolution but deep inside they think or they want to believe that Ruto somehow has some cards under the table and once those cards are shown, Ruto will prevail and all will be as they had be made to think and they had hoped. The reality is, Ruto has not cards under the table and things will never be as they had hoped for and that should worry everyone because once the tides change and Ruto put his hands up or lost control of his group then thats where problems will be!
TAZ
#104 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:38:09 PM
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captain kirk wrote:
Rollout wrote:
I am a Kalenjin(Nandi), I grew up 20KM from Nandi Hills, what I can say is, Kalenjin did not vote for Uhuru because they loved him, they voted from him because:

1) They were made to believe that Uhuru could probably get locked up in ICC effectively making Ruto President; No matter how twisted this sound, alot of Kalenjin actually hoped that.

2) Those who never bought sell point (1) were convienced using a kalenjin phrase that translate to: "If you go hunting with someone, regardless of how you feel about each other, when you catch a deer and your dog was in the game, you'll split the meat."

Those are the two main reasons Kalenjins supported Uhuru! The reality is, reason 1) could be void, reason 2) appear not to be satifying the people. Whats left?.......

If you talk to Kalenjins even the biggest Uhuru/Ruto supporter they'll tell you they know Uhuru will not support Ruto for Presidency and even if he does, it will only be him and probably his wife, they know very well that Ruto will not get even 10% of central province votes...... I am not surprised by the leaflets:

It even anger people more when they listen to people from Central saying the union is Ok and they're having a small fight just like any other family because to them, Central is holding the bread and they're holding the bread bag..... also referred to it as, feeding the cow and someone else is milking it.

Boss, u nailed it. I hope all people on Wazua read this post. Where are those saying all is well. @Mpobiz, @murchr et al.


Aren't you the same people who came here to tell us that Kalenjins wouldn't not vote for UK....ati 'hapo juu tumia akili' sasa here you are again with your ridiculous theories talking on behalf of all Kalenjins. This is pure politics, If you for a moment think URP are about to give up the stake in govt, however small or big you think it is then unajidanganya.
Rollout
#105 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:13:09 PM
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TAZ wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
Rollout wrote:
I am a Kalenjin(Nandi), I grew up 20KM from Nandi Hills, what I can say is, Kalenjin did not vote for Uhuru because they loved him, they voted from him because:

1) They were made to believe that Uhuru could probably get locked up in ICC effectively making Ruto President; No matter how twisted this sound, alot of Kalenjin actually hoped that.

2) Those who never bought sell point (1) were convienced using a kalenjin phrase that translate to: "If you go hunting with someone, regardless of how you feel about each other, when you catch a deer and your dog was in the game, you'll split the meat."

Those are the two main reasons Kalenjins supported Uhuru! The reality is, reason 1) could be void, reason 2) appear not to be satifying the people. Whats left?.......

If you talk to Kalenjins even the biggest Uhuru/Ruto supporter they'll tell you they know Uhuru will not support Ruto for Presidency and even if he does, it will only be him and probably his wife, they know very well that Ruto will not get even 10% of central province votes...... I am not surprised by the leaflets:

It even anger people more when they listen to people from Central saying the union is Ok and they're having a small fight just like any other family because to them, Central is holding the bread and they're holding the bread bag..... also referred to it as, feeding the cow and someone else is milking it.

Boss, u nailed it. I hope all people on Wazua read this post. Where are those saying all is well. @Mpobiz, @murchr et al.


Aren't you the same people who came here to tell us that Kalenjins wouldn't not vote for UK....ati 'hapo juu tumia akili' sasa here you are again with your ridiculous theories talking on behalf of all Kalenjins. This is pure politics, If you for a moment think URP are about to give up the stake in govt, however small or big you think it is then unajidanganya.


I think you're attacking the messanger, but I will answer you. First, yes! It's true Kalenjins did not want to vote for Uhuru, we all remember Uhuru/Ruto, Ruto/Uhuru debate but at the end of the day Ruto managed to convienced 99% of the people to support Uhuru/Ruto but he wasn't honest enough with the people for that reason, people expected more than they should have, he sold it as 50/50 partnership and that there was a path for him to eventually be President so some level of deception went into conviencing Kaleo to vote Uhuru/Ruto if you don't beleive me just ask any Kale who is brave enough to talk.

On URP stake in the government; URP is as strong as it's support base, if URP loose it's support base it wouldn't matter whether Ruto and the URP appointees to the government continue to hold they position in government or not, the support base will be boiling and political careers will be at stake. Obviously you cannot separate URP the party and Kalenjin the people otherwise you would say "If you for a moment think URP are about to give up the stake in govt, however small or big you think it is then unajidanganya"

Lastly, I live in one the most beautiful city in the world, My Girdfriend is one of the most beautiful and smartest Kikuyu Lady you can find, It's known here that, I am a big ODM supporter and yes I have a closer relationship to someone of the URP appointees, some of them are family; in short, I don't have any tribal hates, but I am more loyal to Kenya than a tribal outfit.

harrydre
#106 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:19:58 PM
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Money has obviously been poured in URP to cause a internal wrangles. These guys have the top positions, wt*! Watu wakule pesa but break-up will not happen and if it does, well there is always Options B, C, D and E.
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Rollout
#107 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:29:39 PM
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harrydre wrote:
Money has obviously been poured in URP to cause a internal wrangles. These guys have the top positions, wt*! Watu wakule pesa but break-up will not happen and if it does, well there is always Options B, C, D and E.


I don't think there is money involved, Ruto is to be blame here because there is no 50/50 Government formed in a pre-election arrangement; non in the world, there are coalition governments but those are not 50/50. Ruto was either deceived by Uhuru or he decieved his URP supporters. Either way, he should have known. Uhuru has every right to pick anyone he wants, he is the president, Ruto delivered his URP supporters to give him mandate as the President that is the reality!
jaggernaut
#108 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:30:47 PM
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Nandwa wrote:

One such leaflet addressed to Ms Wanjiru Joyce, says: “Please, leave within one week with your children or else you lose everything.”

At the ICC when a past a victim recounted her story choice insult words were directed at her while embracing the said attackers!

God help us!


And Ms Wanjiru is expected to wake up early on a certain day in 2022 and vote for Ruto? Is this the way voters are wooed?
masukuma
#109 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:36:20 PM
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Rollout wrote:
I am a Kalenjin(Nandi), I grew up 20KM from Nandi Hills, what I can say is, Kalenjin did not vote for Uhuru because they loved him, they voted from him because:

1) They were made to believe that Uhuru could probably get locked up in ICC effectively making Ruto President; No matter how twisted this sound, alot of Kalenjin actually hoped that.

2) Those who never bought sell point (1) were convienced using a kalenjin phrase that translate to: "If you go hunting with someone, regardless of how you feel about each other, when you catch a deer and your dog was in the game, you'll split the meat."

Those are the two main reasons Kalenjins supported Uhuru! The reality is, reason 1) could be void, reason 2) appear not to be satifying the people. Whats left?.......

If you talk to Kalenjins even the biggest Uhuru/Ruto supporter they'll tell you they know Uhuru will not support Ruto for Presidency and even if he does, it will only be him and probably his wife, they know very well that Ruto will not get even 10% of central province votes...... I am not surprised by the leaflets:

It even anger people more when they listen to people from Central saying the union is Ok and they're having a small fight just like any other family because to them, Central is holding the bread and they're holding the bread bag..... also referred to it as, feeding the cow and someone else is milking it.

so... wakale wanataka nini? ni nini wamenyimwa? is it real kunyimwa or it's imaginary?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
mpobiz
#110 Posted : Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:44:44 PM
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TAZ wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
Rollout wrote:
I am a Kalenjin(Nandi), I grew up 20KM from Nandi Hills, what I can say is, Kalenjin did not vote for Uhuru because they loved him, they voted from him because:

1) They were made to believe that Uhuru could probably get locked up in ICC effectively making Ruto President; No matter how twisted this sound, alot of Kalenjin actually hoped that.

2) Those who never bought sell point (1) were convienced using a kalenjin phrase that translate to: "If you go hunting with someone, regardless of how you feel about each other, when you catch a deer and your dog was in the game, you'll split the meat."

Those are the two main reasons Kalenjins supported Uhuru! The reality is, reason 1) could be void, reason 2) appear not to be satifying the people. Whats left?.......

If you talk to Kalenjins even the biggest Uhuru/Ruto supporter they'll tell you they know Uhuru will not support Ruto for Presidency and even if he does, it will only be him and probably his wife, they know very well that Ruto will not get even 10% of central province votes...... I am not surprised by the leaflets:

It even anger people more when they listen to people from Central saying the union is Ok and they're having a small fight just like any other family because to them, Central is holding the bread and they're holding the bread bag..... also referred to it as, feeding the cow and someone else is milking it.

Boss, u nailed it. I hope all people on Wazua read this post. Where are those saying all is well. @Mpobiz, @murchr et al.


Aren't you the same people who came here to tell us that Kalenjins wouldn't not vote for UK....ati 'hapo juu tumia akili' sasa here you are again with your ridiculous theories talking on behalf of all Kalenjins. This is pure politics, If you for a moment think URP are about to give up the stake in govt, however small or big you think it is then unajidanganya.


It seems you did not check my last post
mpobiz wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
[quote=McReggae][quote=Othelo][quote=mawinder][quote=mpobiz]
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And before I forget. Kaleo land is not 100% jubilee there are still pockets of ODM in the area. Unfortunately they have been paid to shout the loudest. Also you can't say kyuk land is 100%tna there are pockets of mungiki who are waiting for their leader raira to order them into action.


when nandi odm sympathisers like rollout come here claiming to speak on behalf of a whole community is laughable. I can't even dare speak on behalf of my clan let alone my ...
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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