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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Now the Kabete traffic cops and Kilimani nduthi cops will have to shift strategy to private motor vehicles. Poleni sana, avoid these areas.
BBI will solve it :)
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Cash will still be delivered pronto! Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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@washiku there's a basic principle that I never shift from. Gov't interference in my private life. I don't care how moral a gov't feels it is.
It is ok for owners to want to go cashless. That's their business.
But it is very very wrong for the gov't to be telling me how to pay for a particular service or product. And put a law.
Next they will tell us to use beba pay in all butcheries.
For the saved guys out there, this is the 666 the letters of the devil that we were told about.
Washiku, see how easy it would be for me to start tearing it down? Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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alma wrote:@washiku there's a basic principle that I never shift from. Gov't interference in my private life. I don't care how moral a gov't feels it is.
It is ok for owners to want to go cashless. That's their business.
But it is very very wrong for the gov't to be telling me how to pay for a particular service or product. And put a law.
Next they will tell us to use beba pay in all butcheries.
For the saved guys out there, this is the 666 the letters of the devil that we were told about.
Washiku, see how easy it would be for me to start tearing it down?
 Hapo umeshida.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2009 Posts: 658
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washiku wrote:alma wrote:@washiku there's a basic principle that I never shift from. Gov't interference in my private life. I don't care how moral a gov't feels it is.
It is ok for owners to want to go cashless. That's their business.
But it is very very wrong for the gov't to be telling me how to pay for a particular service or product. And put a law.
Next they will tell us to use beba pay in all butcheries.
For the saved guys out there, this is the 666 the letters of the devil that we were told about.
Washiku, see how easy it would be for me to start tearing it down?
 Hapo umeshida.
Non sense!!!. When the PIN was introduced in 1993 all people said the same thing. An year down the line the 666 was dead kabisa!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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washiku wrote:alma wrote:@washiku there's a basic principle that I never shift from. Gov't interference in my private life. I don't care how moral a gov't feels it is.
It is ok for owners to want to go cashless. That's their business.
But it is very very wrong for the gov't to be telling me how to pay for a particular service or product. And put a law.
Next they will tell us to use beba pay in all butcheries.
For the saved guys out there, this is the 666 the letters of the devil that we were told about.
Washiku, see how easy it would be for me to start tearing it down?
 Hapo umeshida.
The reason why so much nonsense gets through Kenya is because people don't sue.
Beba Pay forces me to buy a private company's product. It forces me to own a phone. It forces me to always have money.
Those things are actually interfering with my freedoms.
I personally don't have a phone. So that means I will never use a matatu.
If I'm broke and all I have is 10 bob to move from south B to West, I will have to walk. Basically killing the African culture of negotiating.
That's all ok.
But why is it a law? Why are private companies using government tools to make money off me?
Don't I have a right to pay with cash in Kenya anymore for services I need?
It's just that Kenyans don't sue. But wait until it is forced on guys in Kibera and Kiamaiko who can't afford to load 10 bob mpesa to pay for 10 bob bus fare then reality will slowly creep in.
@Segemia, you have no idea why some americans never use plastic cards do you?
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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alma wrote:washiku wrote:alma wrote:@washiku there's a basic principle that I never shift from. Gov't interference in my private life. I don't care how moral a gov't feels it is.
It is ok for owners to want to go cashless. That's their business.
But it is very very wrong for the gov't to be telling me how to pay for a particular service or product. And put a law.
Next they will tell us to use beba pay in all butcheries.
For the saved guys out there, this is the 666 the letters of the devil that we were told about.
Washiku, see how easy it would be for me to start tearing it down?
 Hapo umeshida.
The reason why so much nonsense gets through Kenya is because people don't sue.
Beba Pay forces me to buy a private company's product. It forces me to own a phone. It forces me to always have money.
Those things are actually interfering with my freedoms.
I personally don't have a phone. So that means I will never use a matatu.
If I'm broke and all I have is 10 bob to move from south B to West, I will have to walk. Basically killing the African culture of negotiating.
That's all ok.
But why is it a law? Why are private companies using government tools to make money off me?
Don't I have a right to pay with cash in Kenya anymore for services I need?
It's just that Kenyans don't sue. But wait until it is forced on guys in Kibera and Kiamaiko who can't afford to load 10 bob mpesa to pay for 10 bob bus fare then reality will slowly creep in.
@Segemia, you have no idea why some americans never use plastic cards do you?
@Alma, i thought i was the last one to buy a phone, lakini hapo sasa umeweza kweli. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Gathige wrote:alma wrote:washiku wrote:alma wrote:@washiku there's a basic principle that I never shift from. Gov't interference in my private life. I don't care how moral a gov't feels it is.
It is ok for owners to want to go cashless. That's their business.
But it is very very wrong for the gov't to be telling me how to pay for a particular service or product. And put a law.
Next they will tell us to use beba pay in all butcheries.
For the saved guys out there, this is the 666 the letters of the devil that we were told about.
Washiku, see how easy it would be for me to start tearing it down?
 Hapo umeshida.
The reason why so much nonsense gets through Kenya is because people don't sue.
Beba Pay forces me to buy a private company's product. It forces me to own a phone. It forces me to always have money.
Those things are actually interfering with my freedoms.
I personally don't have a phone. So that means I will never use a matatu.
If I'm broke and all I have is 10 bob to move from south B to West, I will have to walk. Basically killing the African culture of negotiating.
That's all ok.
But why is it a law? Why are private companies using government tools to make money off me?
Don't I have a right to pay with cash in Kenya anymore for services I need?
It's just that Kenyans don't sue. But wait until it is forced on guys in Kibera and Kiamaiko who can't afford to load 10 bob mpesa to pay for 10 bob bus fare then reality will slowly creep in.
@Segemia, you have no idea why some americans never use plastic cards do you?
@Alma, i thought i was the last one to buy a phone, lakini hapo sasa umeweza kweli.
mimi sina simu. 8 months and im glad. Now the minister of transport has decided its my constitutional mandate to buy a phone and buy equity. otherwise i walk for the rest of my life.
They will start with the matatu, then go to the hair salon, then the butchery and next when you buy milk.
666 number ya shetani!
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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the biggest issue is the concept of LEGAL TENDER FOR PAYMENT OF DEBTS! I am not an MPESA, ZAP or any other money transfer service user. I don't have Bebapay - but I have some money in my pocket.... in which world will a manamba refuse to take my cold hard cash worth of 20bob for travels? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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