First those ones don't have Sonko. Second they probably voted for the same people who sold them the land.

They should lie low like envelops they are. They would have single handedly solved land issues in Kenya and they had the support of Kenyans.

But they choose to lie low like envelops. Na wakae hivyo hivyo.

So the vitriol and name calling has disappeared and sense is creeping in. That's how it should be, like tycho says, a reasonable discussion. So, if someone has taken a mortgage and built, but is unable to pay kevevapi the market rate of the piece, what happens? They lose it? And will there be a tug of war with the banks who have charged the deed?

Yes. Unless the bank gives them another loan. Tell me which valuer will agree to that and I show you a stupid fool.

Watafute pesa za 40x80 South B. Or they take the banks, developers, the valuers etc to court. That is their only option.

@jagernaut, ..ok..be the first one then you come tell us here in wazua how it panned out.

Kenya high land is being well utilised as a school.

DoD land is being well utilised as a security installation.

Kevevapi land was bare grassland without any from of utilization prior to the developments.

Land that should be alienated the same way is the veterinary lands near kangemi/loresho, betwen shade hotel karen to ngon town etc, which are bare grasslands without any form of utilization.


What should happen now is
1.create laws that help kenyans define unutilised idle public lands.
this will prevent @jagernaut from salivating at every prime piece of govt land he sees.

2. create laws to define how such lands can be allocated fairly to the public.
this will prevent @jagernaut from unfairly gaining from such lands thru bribery etc.

We can also agree that as kenyans, its impossible to create laws that people will follow and stop any further alienation of public land and maybe say that such lands can only be utilised for social functions eg schools, hospitals, prisons etc.

If the above 2 issues are not tackled, due to the high demand for land , soon, we will see a rogue NLC issue the govt lands to desperate kenyans and the story continues. Every new govt comes in and extorts the buyers ad infinitum.

Phew! kweli gloves are off. Pole @alma we will pray for you. Whoaa, eti you should shut up when the architect is speaking? Unbelievable!