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Tourism from the East: Unbelievable
jaggernaut
#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:01:17 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Listening to Mike Macharia on Citizen TV, we have only had 37000 tourists from the East since 2004 while last year we had 0.5M tourists from Europe....nothing to add!!!!


Stop twisting the facts. There were 37000 Chinese tourists last year alone.
maka
#12 Posted : Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:29:25 AM
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masukuma wrote:
tuseme ukweli - we are doing poorly!! 0.5 million tourist ni mchezo!! Israel has 3+M a year and hakuna kitu ya maana ya kuona huko.

check out this list

http://en.wikipedia.org/.../World_Tourism_rankings

Zim and it's issues does better than us. We are either clueless on how to attract tourists or we have nothing to show.

Look at this numbers www.eturbonews.com/46000...rd-high-close-10-million

@Chepkel is right our marketing isnt the best we should work on that...rem Malaysia truly asia...
possunt quia posse videntur
Tokyo
#13 Posted : Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:22:53 AM
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Tourists from the East very sensitive on security issues.
work to prosper
murchr
#14 Posted : Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:12:43 AM
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(CNN) -- Chinese travelers are now the top source of tourism cash in the world, according to a new report by the United Nations World Tourism Organization (UNWTO).

Boosted by a rising Chinese currency, Chinese travelers spent a record US$102 billion on international tourism in 2012, a 40 percent rise from US$73 billion in 2011.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/...l/china-tourists-spend/
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kiash
#15 Posted : Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:46:28 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
Tourists from the East very sensitive on security issues.




Yeah , actually seeing the figures in France reminds me of what France is planning to do this summer.There will be several Chinese policemen this summer who will work with the french police to guard and accompany the Chinese tourists when they come to visit.

This is because they have been victims of mugging by pickpockets. France expects to receive several millions of Chinese tourists this summer.Even in luxury boutiques they have employed chinese to help the clientèle.
kiash
#16 Posted : Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:50:50 AM
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wanyee wrote:
The Muzungu "going-to-africa-jungle-tarzan" romanticized type of tourism needs to end. Its doubtful impact on the mwananchi and not mwenyenchi is evident. Kenya can either pursue the Dubai type of tourism (google numbers) that is mass tourist leaning or pursue a boutique high -end client exclusive type. Look at the famed Maasai conservancies..they are even hyped as Eco-sensitive ..but the locals they dance and jump for the tourist and at the end of day go to sleep in the earthen floor "kanyitera" lit manyatta huts/houses fighting it out with mosquitos, hyenas and lions if not spending the night guarding the visitors. Whereas the visitor is busy sipping champagne in an eco-heated jacuzi starring at the african night sky and later sleep soundly after eating a sumptuous meal ..am trying to paint a picture here..at what time will the owners of these vast wildlife rich lands,...the local get the same services they are offering..its the irony ..why not build 1st class eco-friendly manyaras(intentional tweng) 1st for the maasai well lit and perhaps a model living museum if the visitor has to see local culture...what am i saying here ..this type of tourism is flawed and only benefits the lodge owner ..no trickle down effect apart from when the "visitor" feels touch to engage in some "cause" aka poorism. I think tourism is not as complicated as people make it out. Many rural homes can be upgraded to host mass tourists ( one Mr. Ndemo did such an article elaborating such) and individual can source for clients by diaspora referal or even random online sources..this type has an associative knock over effect of creating a huge array of associative cottage industries than can be buzzworded as organic..eco friendly bla bla bla .. time to devolve tourism tooo and make it liberal and mass played too. Other sectors have undergone the same ..banking, telecom, name it.

my 2 ndururus



I agree with you wanyee . But on point red, there was someone who had done such a thing in western i guess you welcome tourists inthe rural areas who want to live it like locals. The problem was when the person gets several tourists and earns some chumes, he changes the status some new house and modernity and hop thats the end . To the marketer of the idea the tourists were not willing to live like in their countries . So change the host and the cycle continues.
Kausha
#17 Posted : Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:05:22 AM
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kiash wrote:
wanyee wrote:
The Muzungu "going-to-africa-jungle-tarzan" romanticized type of tourism needs to end. Its doubtful impact on the mwananchi and not mwenyenchi is evident. Kenya can either pursue the Dubai type of tourism (google numbers) that is mass tourist leaning or pursue a boutique high -end client exclusive type. Look at the famed Maasai conservancies..they are even hyped as Eco-sensitive ..but the locals they dance and jump for the tourist and at the end of day go to sleep in the earthen floor "kanyitera" lit manyatta huts/houses fighting it out with mosquitos, hyenas and lions if not spending the night guarding the visitors. Whereas the visitor is busy sipping champagne in an eco-heated jacuzi starring at the african night sky and later sleep soundly after eating a sumptuous meal ..am trying to paint a picture here..at what time will the owners of these vast wildlife rich lands,...the local get the same services they are offering..its the irony ..why not build 1st class eco-friendly manyaras(intentional tweng) 1st for the maasai well lit and perhaps a model living museum if the visitor has to see local culture...what am i saying here ..this type of tourism is flawed and only benefits the lodge owner ..no trickle down effect apart from when the "visitor" feels touch to engage in some "cause" aka poorism. I think tourism is not as complicated as people make it out. Many rural homes can be upgraded to host mass tourists ( one Mr. Ndemo did such an article elaborating such) and individual can source for clients by diaspora referal or even random online sources..this type has an associative knock over effect of creating a huge array of associative cottage industries than can be buzzworded as organic..eco friendly bla bla bla .. time to devolve tourism tooo and make it liberal and mass played too. Other sectors have undergone the same ..banking, telecom, name it.

my 2 ndururus



I agree with you wanyee . But on point red, there was someone who had done such a thing in western i guess you welcome tourists inthe rural areas who want to live it like locals. The problem was when the person gets several tourists and earns some chumes, he changes the status some new house and modernity and hop thats the end . To the marketer of the idea the tourists were not willing to live like in their countries . So change the host and the cycle continues.


Lakini lets put kairasy aside. Tourism is a luxury product tied to spending ability and interests of the cash holders. Those 2 foondamendoz are what keeps our tourism tied to the west. They have spending power and want warm outdoor weather. We have plenty of warm weather. Chinese have lower spending power and want business opportunities. We have limitations here and serious limitations.

Mukiri
#18 Posted : Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:30:48 AM
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There is no accountability in Kenya! Hio ndio shida.

What happens during appraisals?

If everyone did their jobs, and did them right, we'd not be having the problems we are. Sio security, sio attracting tourists, sio ensuring everybody benefits from the resources we have, sio....

Proverbs 19:21
McReggae
#19 Posted : Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:39:59 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Listening to Mike Macharia on Citizen TV, we have only had 37000 tourists from the East since 2004 while last year we had 0.5M tourists from Europe....nothing to add!!!!


Stop twisting the facts. There were 37000 Chinese tourists last year alone.


Kijana, check the youtube link, don't always just seek to throw punches mate!!!!

Someone joked:

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And 36,000 were construction workers, masseurs and that 1 watchman in Kawangware...........and the very few who end up in masai mara pay for accomodation only, they even share rooms. What they eat, the lord knows
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
McReggae
#20 Posted : Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:28:04 AM
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The African tourist has money, but he is a strange creature!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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