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GMO Imperialism disguised as humanitarianism
Muriel
#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:32:38 AM
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D32 wrote:
How farming was done in past centuries, was that from the past harvest, the farmer saved seed to be planted for the next season, but now, corporates are trying to force populations to purchase their seed. Control is gained by either developing seeds that produce second generation sterile seeds or by developing seeds or plants who's fruit don't have seeds or by putting policies that do not allow farmers preserve seeds from the past harvest, to be used for planting in future seasons.

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Question: Why is it the the leading countries in cancer are the cream of the first world countries, but not African countries? Yet Africa is stricken with poverty. Could it be that it's because Africa's diet is primarily organic? While the first world's diets are primarily GMO's?



D32, that is a good question. I will add that is it not amazing that, as they insist, life has been on earth for millions of years yet it is only 'recently' (evolutionarily speaking), that certain crops e.g. maize all of a sudden require modification to survive better?

If they survived for those millions of years without any human intervention even the simplest weeding why do they need fortification, modification now.
mburuke
#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:26:44 AM
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lets get all fact about gmos before making any conclusions
one
-not all gmos have the terminator technology. even in hybrid seeds (not Gmo) you cannot replant the seeds.
-Gm plants do not have to come from the western companies. KARI and KU have for some time now been involved in the development of GM plants.
- Not all gm technologies are geared towards herbicide resistance there other challenges such as drought tolerance that can be worked on. Am sure you have also heard about the new maize necrotic disease judging by its rate of mutation it gm might be the way to go also.
-Gm is about viable alternative for every challenge lets explore the options available and see the best way forward. For example for striga that thing is a menace if u have a better solution kindly share it with the scientists but for now strigaaway Tm is what seems to work. An btw the strigaaway Tm technology is not even GM
One's first step in wisdom is to question everything - and one's last is to come to terms with everything
mkeiy
#13 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:49:50 AM
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mburuke wrote:
lets get all fact about gmos before making any conclusions
one
-not all gmos have the terminator technology. even in hybrid seeds (not Gmo) you cannot replant the seeds.
-Gm plants do not have to come from the western companies. KARI and KU have for some time now been involved in the development of GM plants.
- Not all gm technologies are geared towards herbicide resistance there other challenges such as drought tolerance that can be worked on. Am sure you have also heard about the new maize necrotic disease judging by its rate of mutation it gm might be the way to go also.
-Gm is about viable alternative for every challenge lets explore the options available and see the best way forward. For example for striga that thing is a menace if u have a better solution kindly share it with the scientists but for now strigaaway Tm is what seems to work. An btw the strigaaway Tm technology is not even GM


Well said. Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

But it's all about the "West" this , the "West" that.

I ask, what imperialism if the West itself is consuming the same?
D32
#14 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:52:32 PM
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-not all gmos have the terminator technology. even in hybrid seeds (not Gmo) you cannot replant the seeds.

Did not say that all GMO's second generation seeds are sterile, rather, the corporates that are seeking control use such methods.

-Gm plants do not have to come from the western companies. KARI and KU have for some time now been involved in the development of GM plants.

Did not say that they have to come from western countries. It's about choosing the natural way over GMO, whether it be locally or from overseas (as it's being lobbied)

- Not all gm technologies are geared towards herbicide resistance there other challenges such as drought tolerance that can be worked on. Am sure you have also heard about the new maize necrotic disease judging by its rate of mutation it gm might be the way to go also.
-Gm is about viable alternative for every challenge lets explore the options available and see the best way forward. For example for striga that thing is a menace if u have a better solution kindly share it with the scientists but for now strigaaway Tm is what seems to work. An btw the strigaaway Tm technology is not even GM

Hence this statement "There's no problem with developing natural, disease resistant seeds, who's future generation seeds can be preserved and planted, without the farmer worrying about things like paying royalties for patented seeds or sterility."

What's the difference between cross pollination/grafting/selective breeding that farmers have been doing for centuries and GMO?

http://www.mnn.com/food/...ng-vs-selective-breeding
They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
D32
#15 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:55:00 PM
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Muriel wrote:
D32 wrote:
How farming was done in past centuries, was that from the past harvest, the farmer saved seed to be planted for the next season, but now, corporates are trying to force populations to purchase their seed. Control is gained by either developing seeds that produce second generation sterile seeds or by developing seeds or plants who's fruit don't have seeds or by putting policies that do not allow farmers preserve seeds from the past harvest, to be used for planting in future seasons.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Question: Why is it the the leading countries in cancer are the cream of the first world countries, but not African countries? Yet Africa is stricken with poverty. Could it be that it's because Africa's diet is primarily organic? While the first world's diets are primarily GMO's?



D32, that is a good question. I will add that is it not amazing that, as they insist, life has been on earth for millions of years yet it is only 'recently' (evolutionarily speaking), that certain crops e.g. maize all of a sudden require modification to survive better?

If they survived for those millions of years without any human intervention even the simplest weeding why do they need fortification, modification now.


You have a point.
They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
Muriel
#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:36:18 PM
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mkeiy wrote:
mburuke wrote:
lets get all fact about gmos before making any conclusions
one
-not all gmos have the terminator technology. even in hybrid seeds (not Gmo) you cannot replant the seeds.
-Gm plants do not have to come from the western companies. KARI and KU have for some time now been involved in the development of GM plants.
- Not all gm technologies are geared towards herbicide resistance there other challenges such as drought tolerance that can be worked on. Am sure you have also heard about the new maize necrotic disease judging by its rate of mutation it gm might be the way to go also.
-Gm is about viable alternative for every challenge lets explore the options available and see the best way forward. For example for striga that thing is a menace if u have a better solution kindly share it with the scientists but for now strigaaway Tm is what seems to work. An btw the strigaaway Tm technology is not even GM


Well said. Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

But it's all about the "West" this , the "West" that.

I ask, what imperialism if the West itself is consuming the same?


Yes.

Imperialism = West itself is consuming it, so we also consume.
FundamentAli
#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:57:04 PM
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Muriel wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
mburuke wrote:
lets get all fact about gmos before making any conclusions
one
-not all gmos have the terminator technology. even in hybrid seeds (not Gmo) you cannot replant the seeds.
-Gm plants do not have to come from the western companies. KARI and KU have for some time now been involved in the development of GM plants.
- Not all gm technologies are geared towards herbicide resistance there other challenges such as drought tolerance that can be worked on. Am sure you have also heard about the new maize necrotic disease judging by its rate of mutation it gm might be the way to go also.
-Gm is about viable alternative for every challenge lets explore the options available and see the best way forward. For example for striga that thing is a menace if u have a better solution kindly share it with the scientists but for now strigaaway Tm is what seems to work. An btw the strigaaway Tm technology is not even GM


Well said. Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

But it's all about the "West" this , the "West" that.

I ask, what imperialism if the West itself is consuming the same?


Yes.

Imperialism = West itself is consuming it, so we also consume.

Reade original post. USAID is sponsoring a conference! And as a rejoinder, I said that we need to be in full control of whole process
Muriel
#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 4:37:43 PM
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FundamentAli wrote:
Muriel wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
mburuke wrote:
lets get all fact about gmos before making any conclusions
one
-not all gmos have the terminator technology. even in hybrid seeds (not Gmo) you cannot replant the seeds.
-Gm plants do not have to come from the western companies. KARI and KU have for some time now been involved in the development of GM plants.
- Not all gm technologies are geared towards herbicide resistance there other challenges such as drought tolerance that can be worked on. Am sure you have also heard about the new maize necrotic disease judging by its rate of mutation it gm might be the way to go also.
-Gm is about viable alternative for every challenge lets explore the options available and see the best way forward. For example for striga that thing is a menace if u have a better solution kindly share it with the scientists but for now strigaaway Tm is what seems to work. An btw the strigaaway Tm technology is not even GM


Well said. Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

But it's all about the "West" this , the "West" that.

I ask, what imperialism if the West itself is consuming the same?


Yes.

Imperialism = West itself is consuming it, so we also consume.

Reade original post. USAID is sponsoring a conference! And as a rejoinder, I said that we need to be in full control of whole process


I did read it. Who is controlling what/who is the question.
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