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harrydre wrote:Pastor M wrote:washiku wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I don't mind increase in fees. But:
1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K
2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?)
3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?)
And the students gave a notice.
They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration
#BecauseAmParent I concur. How do they propose to increase fees then lower HELB? Will this country ever get to a point where decisions are made through dialogue and logic? Have these increases even been gazetted or approved whichever it is they are supposed to be? Could there be a middle ground? By the way kwani the maximum HELB was reduced? I thought there were guys who used to get 60k. Could this be the start of Mass Actions someone was talking about in Kibera....My lovely Kenya you have so many enemies...some want to force themselves on you,some want to stone you,some want to steal from you,some kill as they for you and bury the bodies...who will save Kenya...only God....God have mercy and save my Country Kenya amen. on 16th May, babu Owino met with Orengo, Muthama & Omar Hassan to plan for the demos. Each student leader received 40k. Wapi link.... In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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So what was their achievement of the day?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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harrydre wrote:Pastor M wrote:washiku wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I don't mind increase in fees. But:
1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K
2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?)
3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?)
And the students gave a notice.
They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration
#BecauseAmParent I concur. How do they propose to increase fees then lower HELB? Will this country ever get to a point where decisions are made through dialogue and logic? Have these increases even been gazetted or approved whichever it is they are supposed to be? Could there be a middle ground? By the way kwani the maximum HELB was reduced? I thought there were guys who used to get 60k. Could this be the start of Mass Actions someone was talking about in Kibera....My lovely Kenya you have so many enemies...some want to force themselves on you,some want to stone you,some want to steal from you,some kill as they for you and bury the bodies...who will save Kenya...only God....God have mercy and save my Country Kenya amen. on 16th May, babu Owino met with Orengo, Muthama & Omar Hassan to plan for the demos. Each student leader received 40k. This Owino guy recently told me he is doing what he is doing for money and political mileage. Nothing new from the greed and corruption we see to look forward to with this current student leader.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:Pastor M wrote:washiku wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I don't mind increase in fees. But:
1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K
2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?)
3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?)
And the students gave a notice.
They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration
#BecauseAmParent I concur. How do they propose to increase fees then lower HELB? Will this country ever get to a point where decisions are made through dialogue and logic? Have these increases even been gazetted or approved whichever it is they are supposed to be? Could there be a middle ground? By the way kwani the maximum HELB was reduced? I thought there were guys who used to get 60k. Could this be the start of Mass Actions someone was talking about in Kibera....My lovely Kenya you have so many enemies...some want to force themselves on you,some want to stone you,some want to steal from you,some kill as they for you and bury the bodies...who will save Kenya...only God....God have mercy and save my Country Kenya amen. on 16th May, babu Owino met with Orengo, Muthama & Omar Hassan to plan for the demos. Each student leader received 40k. This Owino guy recently told me he is doing what he is doing for money and political mileage. Nothing new from the greed and corruption we see to look forward to with this current student leader. They learn from the best is there any political leader who can be a role model in the country? possunt quia posse videntur
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MaichBlack wrote:Magigi wrote:...No wonder Joho opted for KIU  ... I am told there are some private universities where students are not supposed to fail. Yeah. I know two church sponsored [well known and been around for sometime] where students are not supposed to fail at all! In a class of 40, if two fail, the lecturer has to write a report!!! true story!!! Moja ni ile ya mapresenter alumni! Nyingine iko the part of "Nairobi" most made fun of. Naingine iko pale most cold place. True story too! Got a buddy there who was part-timing and was summoned to explain why his students were failing. He was teaching same unit in jkuat with no complaint whatsoever
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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maka wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:Pastor M wrote:washiku wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I don't mind increase in fees. But:
1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K
2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?)
3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?)
And the students gave a notice.
They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration
#BecauseAmParent I concur. How do they propose to increase fees then lower HELB? Will this country ever get to a point where decisions are made through dialogue and logic? Have these increases even been gazetted or approved whichever it is they are supposed to be? Could there be a middle ground? By the way kwani the maximum HELB was reduced? I thought there were guys who used to get 60k. Could this be the start of Mass Actions someone was talking about in Kibera....My lovely Kenya you have so many enemies...some want to force themselves on you,some want to stone you,some want to steal from you,some kill as they for you and bury the bodies...who will save Kenya...only God....God have mercy and save my Country Kenya amen. on 16th May, babu Owino met with Orengo, Muthama & Omar Hassan to plan for the demos. Each student leader received 40k. This Owino guy recently told me he is doing what he is doing for money and political mileage. Nothing new from the greed and corruption we see to look forward to with this current student leader. They learn from the best is there any political leader who can be a role model in the country? I hope we are not naive to expect humans walking around in Kenya as angels. With better enforcement of equitable rule of law across most in the social classes and the likes of Martha Karua and Peter Kenneth in this generation, all is not lost. Current youth in Kenya leadership from MCAs to Senators and Governors is increasingly looking like a Version 2.0 of the Kanu League. Negative human behavior can be contained when it is clear that crime does not pay, Eng. Kamau has shown that at the Transport Ministry. Kenyan drink & drive habits have largely improved for fear of the punitive action as it is actually being applied across the board.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:maka wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:Pastor M wrote:washiku wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I don't mind increase in fees. But:
1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K
2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?)
3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?)
And the students gave a notice.
They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration
#BecauseAmParent I concur. How do they propose to increase fees then lower HELB? Will this country ever get to a point where decisions are made through dialogue and logic? Have these increases even been gazetted or approved whichever it is they are supposed to be? Could there be a middle ground? By the way kwani the maximum HELB was reduced? I thought there were guys who used to get 60k. Could this be the start of Mass Actions someone was talking about in Kibera....My lovely Kenya you have so many enemies...some want to force themselves on you,some want to stone you,some want to steal from you,some kill as they for you and bury the bodies...who will save Kenya...only God....God have mercy and save my Country Kenya amen. on 16th May, babu Owino met with Orengo, Muthama & Omar Hassan to plan for the demos. Each student leader received 40k. This Owino guy recently told me he is doing what he is doing for money and political mileage. Nothing new from the greed and corruption we see to look forward to with this current student leader. They learn from the best is there any political leader who can be a role model in the country? I hope we are not naive to expect humans walking around in Kenya as angels. With better enforcement of equitable rule of law across most in the social classes and the likes of Martha Karua and Peter Kenneth in this generation, all is not lost. Current youth in Kenya leadership from MCAs to Senators and Governors is increasingly looking like a Version 2.0 of the Kanu League. Negative human behavior can be contained when it is clear that crime does not pay, Eng. Kamau has shown that at the Transport Ministry. Kenyan drink & drive habits have largely improved for fear of the punitive action as it is actually being applied across the board. Martha and Peter Kenneth...pliiiiz what do they stand for?What have they said about Anglo leasing?Tribal appointments?Corruption?Nothing...cut from the same cloth,cast in the same mould...If these are the role models we are doomed as a country. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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maka wrote:ecstacy wrote:maka wrote:ecstacy wrote:harrydre wrote:Pastor M wrote:washiku wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I don't mind increase in fees. But:
1. Undergraduate fees went up from 16K towards 45K
2. Undergraduate HELB max reduced from 45K to 30K (is this not mandatory?)
3. Postgraduate HELB increased 130K (is this not discretionary?)
And the students gave a notice.
They should be let to hold the peaceful demonstration
#BecauseAmParent I concur. How do they propose to increase fees then lower HELB? Will this country ever get to a point where decisions are made through dialogue and logic? Have these increases even been gazetted or approved whichever it is they are supposed to be? Could there be a middle ground? By the way kwani the maximum HELB was reduced? I thought there were guys who used to get 60k. Could this be the start of Mass Actions someone was talking about in Kibera....My lovely Kenya you have so many enemies...some want to force themselves on you,some want to stone you,some want to steal from you,some kill as they for you and bury the bodies...who will save Kenya...only God....God have mercy and save my Country Kenya amen. on 16th May, babu Owino met with Orengo, Muthama & Omar Hassan to plan for the demos. Each student leader received 40k. This Owino guy recently told me he is doing what he is doing for money and political mileage. Nothing new from the greed and corruption we see to look forward to with this current student leader. They learn from the best is there any political leader who can be a role model in the country? I hope we are not naive to expect humans walking around in Kenya as angels. With better enforcement of equitable rule of law across most in the social classes and the likes of Martha Karua and Peter Kenneth in this generation, all is not lost. Current youth in Kenya leadership from MCAs to Senators and Governors is increasingly looking like a Version 2.0 of the Kanu League. Negative human behavior can be contained when it is clear that crime does not pay, Eng. Kamau has shown that at the Transport Ministry. Kenyan drink & drive habits have largely improved for fear of the punitive action as it is actually being applied across the board. Martha and Peter Kenneth...pliiiiz what do they stand for?What have they said about Anglo leasing?Tribal appointments?Corruption?Nothing...cut from the same cloth,cast in the same mould...If these are the role models we are doomed as a country. You see what you want to see. If you follow these people, you would know what they have said regardless of the Ke media preferences.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Larry Madowo just did an interview with the University leadership. Seems not all University leadership agreed with the Owino types.
Babu Owino: "It was a peaceful demonstration till we reached Parliament when police started rioting" Surely.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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ecstacy wrote:Larry Madowo just did an interview with the University leadership. Seems not all University leadership agreed with the Owino types.
Babu Owino: "It was a peaceful demonstration till we reached Parliament when police started rioting" Surely. Great affinity to violence. Even his friend Orengo said he want to put suits aside to go back to demos. At least Owino has prepared a way for him.
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