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China's first reaction: "Given the lack of sincerity on the part of the US to solve issues related to cyber security through dialogue and cooperation, China has decided to suspend activities of the China-US Cyber Working Group. China will react further to the US "indictment" as the situation evolves. " Ref - http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/...10_665401/t1157487.shtml
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wamehepa hii thread.... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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The NSA under it's SOMALGET Programme can record every cell phone call in Kenya having probably used DEA ops as the pretext as it did in Bahamas to get legal telco access and leave back doors. The damage Snowden has done to years of the global US Intelligence operations is massive. Link - http://t.co/E6bkTwiy62 https://firstlook.org/th...cell-phone-call-bahamas/
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Why Kenya is the big question, Snowden aendelee Quote:“Documents show that the NSA has been generating intelligence reports from MYSTIC surveillance in the Bahamas, Mexico, Kenya, the Philippines and one other country, which The Intercept is not naming in response to specific, credible concerns that doing so could lead to increased violence,” the website reported. “The more expansive full-take recording capability has been deployed in both the Bahamas and the unnamed country.”  "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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[quote=ecstacy]The NSA under it's SOMALGET Programme can record every cell phone call in Kenya having probably used DEA ops as the pretext as it did in Bahamas to get legal telco access and leave back doors. The damage Snowden has done to years of the global US Intelligence operations is massive. Link - http://t.co/E6bkTwiy62 https://firstlook.org/th...ell-phone-call-bahamas/[/quote] I have no doubt that the NSA can tap and record phone calls - but recording an entire country's phone calls is a different animal altogether. I suspect news organizations want to give the Snowden leaks as much bite as they possibly can and draw in max revenue. This makes them susceptible to irrational exuberance with facts. Not even NSA has infinite resources. They would be frustrated by that very basic of duo problems - cost and scale. I say this as a person with a front row seat in the computing and communications arena. First - you need to break into all mobile switches and copy all traffic signals - then transfer them out to storage, which will consume a lot of bandwidth and diskspace. Not all switches originate from America. ...some come from France (alcatel), Finland (Ericsson, Nokia), China (Huawei, ZTE)..complicates cracking them. .Secondly, to decrypt the signals which even if they use breakable symmetric keys, the volume would be a huge problem. Lastly, processing the calls: Natural Language processing is still one of the hardest problems in Computer Science, even for NSA, as anyone who has used iPhone's Siri will tell you. Recording all calls is impractical and logistically improbable. What they probably do is use AI, event modelling algorithms/math (google Palantir) with metadata (easier to collect) to isolate regions/people/activities that need closer surveillanc
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quicksand wrote: [quote=ecstacy]The NSA under it's SOMALGET Programme can record every cell phone call in Kenya having probably used DEA ops as the pretext as it did in Bahamas to get legal telco access and leave back doors. The damage Snowden has done to years of the global US Intelligence operations is massive. Link - http://t.co/E6bkTwiy62 https://firstlook.org/th...ell-phone-call-bahamas/[/quote] I have no doubt that the NSA can tap and record phone calls - but recording an entire country's phone calls is a different animal altogether. I suspect news organizations want to give the Snowden leaks as much bite as they possibly can and draw in max revenue. This makes them susceptible to irrational exuberance with facts. Not even NSA has infinite resources. They would be frustrated by that very basic of duo problems - cost and scale. I say this as a person with a front row seat in the computing and communications arena. First - you need to break into all mobile switches and copy all traffic signals - then transfer them out to storage, which will consume a lot of bandwidth and diskspace. Not all switches originate from America. ...some come from France (alcatel), Finland (Ericsson, Nokia), China (Huawei, ZTE)..complicates cracking them. .Secondly, to decrypt the signals which even if they use breakable symmetric keys, the volume would be a huge problem. Lastly, processing the calls: Natural Language processing is still one of the hardest problems in Computer Science, even for NSA, as anyone who has used iPhone's Siri will tell you. Recording all calls is impractical and logistically improbable. What they probably do is use AI, event modelling algorithms/math (google Palantir) with metadata (easier to collect) to isolate regions/people/activities that need closer surveillanc I guess you have not heard of Metadata in analytics. Have you? Ask symbols to explain to you what that is. Here is a good article as you wait http://abcnews.go.com/bl...eople-based-on-metadata/"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:quicksand wrote: [quote=ecstacy]The NSA under it's SOMALGET Programme can record every cell phone call in Kenya having probably used DEA ops as the pretext as it did in Bahamas to get legal telco access and leave back doors. The damage Snowden has done to years of the global US Intelligence operations is massive. Link - http://t.co/E6bkTwiy62 https://firstlook.org/th...ell-phone-call-bahamas/[/quote] I have no doubt that the NSA can tap and record phone calls - but recording an entire country's phone calls is a different animal altogether. I suspect news organizations want to give the Snowden leaks as much bite as they possibly can and draw in max revenue. This makes them susceptible to irrational exuberance with facts. Not even NSA has infinite resources. They would be frustrated by that very basic of duo problems - cost and scale. I say this as a person with a front row seat in the computing and communications arena. First - you need to break into all mobile switches and copy all traffic signals - then transfer them out to storage, which will consume a lot of bandwidth and diskspace. Not all switches originate from America. ...some come from France (alcatel), Finland (Ericsson, Nokia), China (Huawei, ZTE)..complicates cracking them. .Secondly, to decrypt the signals which even if they use breakable symmetric keys, the volume would be a huge problem. Lastly, processing the calls: Natural Language processing is still one of the hardest problems in Computer Science, even for NSA, as anyone who has used iPhone's Siri will tell you. Recording all calls is impractical and logistically improbable. What they probably do is use AI, event modelling algorithms/math (google Palantir) with metadata (easier to collect) to isolate regions/people/activities that need closer surveillanc I guess you have not heard of Metadata in analytics. Have you? Ask symbols to explain to you what that is. Here is a good article as you wait http://abcnews.go.com/bl...ople-based-on-metadata/
I know well what metadata is, without even needing to open that link. I know @symbols more for his/her metaphysical posts, and not metadata ones, kindly dig up an example if there is one Open the link at the top again. It says recording audio. Literal conversations stored a hard drive. Yes, I believe it is possible to collect nearly metadata about calls; What I have trouble believing is the collecting of audio in all calls - reread my post again.
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quicksand wrote:murchr wrote:quicksand wrote: [quote=ecstacy]The NSA under it's SOMALGET Programme can record every cell phone call in Kenya having probably used DEA ops as the pretext as it did in Bahamas to get legal telco access and leave back doors. The damage Snowden has done to years of the global US Intelligence operations is massive. Link - http://t.co/E6bkTwiy62 https://firstlook.org/th...ell-phone-call-bahamas/[/quote] I have no doubt that the NSA can tap and record phone calls - but recording an entire country's phone calls is a different animal altogether. I suspect news organizations want to give the Snowden leaks as much bite as they possibly can and draw in max revenue. This makes them susceptible to irrational exuberance with facts. Not even NSA has infinite resources. They would be frustrated by that very basic of duo problems - cost and scale. I say this as a person with a front row seat in the computing and communications arena. First - you need to break into all mobile switches and copy all traffic signals - then transfer them out to storage, which will consume a lot of bandwidth and diskspace. Not all switches originate from America. ...some come from France (alcatel), Finland (Ericsson, Nokia), China (Huawei, ZTE)..complicates cracking them. .Secondly, to decrypt the signals which even if they use breakable symmetric keys, the volume would be a huge problem. Lastly, processing the calls: Natural Language processing is still one of the hardest problems in Computer Science, even for NSA, as anyone who has used iPhone's Siri will tell you. Recording all calls is impractical and logistically improbable. What they probably do is use AI, event modelling algorithms/math (google Palantir) with metadata (easier to collect) to isolate regions/people/activities that need closer surveillanc I guess you have not heard of Metadata in analytics. Have you? Ask symbols to explain to you what that is. Here is a good article as you wait http://abcnews.go.com/bl...ople-based-on-metadata/
I know well what metadata is, without even needing to open that link. I know @symbols more for his/her metaphysical posts, and not metadata ones, kindly dig up an example if there is one Open the link at the top again. It says recording audio. Literal conversations stored a hard drive. Yes, I believe it is possible to collect nearly metadata about calls; What I have trouble believing is the collecting of audio in all calls - reread my post again. What is hard in collecting "AUDIO" disk space? Or what are u imagining? watsup saves your audio (those that you send when you dont want to text) with so much ease ni serikali? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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