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Uhuru Kenyatta Tell's Off West
McReggae
#41 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 3:51:53 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
I would love to know from the Coast hotels how come I pay more to stay there than my friends do when they travel down from the UK?


They must be booking with travel agents who have lower rates and they probably book and pay many months before the travel!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Intelligentsia
#42 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 3:52:57 PM
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McReggae wrote:
I hope the yapping politicians will also withdraw they children from Oxford, Harvard etc and send them to Tsenghua University, or Hubei University of Technology......


Baas. Touche.Hapo umewaweza bro.
Impunity
#43 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 3:58:07 PM
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Keyboard12 wrote:
local tourism is a good idea. we ourselves have not been able to go round the country in praise of its glory. I will start touring soon.


How much is this much talked about local tourism worth by the way?

Kenya itself has no saving culture so I dont how people can give precise estimates on this local tourism.

Taking school children and low class families free of charge to game parks does not constitute "local tourism"...these type of tourist will only be able to buy some ice cream worth 20 bob at the entrace of the parks.

Even if you shove 10 million Kenyans into parks and reserves they still wont come close to a tenth of Western tourism worth.

We talk of guys who will sleep in those bush hotels and lodges for up to 2 weeks on average sio watu who after watching Lions will head back to sleep in Kibera and Langata...

And by the way its much difficult to develop local tourism...For instance what will make Kamau to spend 20K to go hike the top of mount Kenya when he was born in Nanyuki and see nothing new in that trip? Plus he will say that the place is near so one day he will make the trip anyway!

I have never set foot in Tsavo yet I pass right trough it by car/flight 10 times a year and i have money to do so...I keep on saying one day I will visit, no hurry since the place si ni hapa hapa tu!!!

While in China I met chiners porters on the foot of the Greatwall who has never visited the Greatwall themselves yet I was there visiting it for the second time in my visit to China.

Wachaneni na ujinga mwingi.

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
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washiku
#44 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 4:01:59 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
The big issue is that now that western tourists have been evacuated and told not to come what do we do? Weep and mourn and close our hotels ...... or look for alternative markets in the east? We went into somalia to make kenya safe for tourists, and now see the situation we are in.


Creativity too needs to kick in. Instead of zero profit by closing down, the hotels can think of making those places "affordable" for majority Kenyans and other regional visitors. Why should Kenyans find Zanzibar more attractive and cheaper to visit than Kenya? What about selling those services at half price or whatever amount that is attractive to the market as long as they are making a margin? What about the government rethinking how to make the sector attractive through attractive tax laws? We have to think as if there is no box, otherwise we live in a capitalistic world. If they dont want their people here, it wont matter what you do. They will still get a reason to tell them we are not safe. Yet their interests in here is the reason we are in this mess in the first place, our internal mess not withstanding. You see, the cheese has been moved. We can either take a rope and hang ourselves in sorrow, or we can look for more markets even as we sort the issues why they are running away in the first place.
jaggernaut
#45 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 4:03:58 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
I would love to know from the Coast hotels how come I pay more to stay there than my friends do when they travel down from the UK?


You will be surprised that an all inclusive 7day holiday package at Mombasa - for a tourist from the UK - costs about 100k including flight and hotel.

If it was you, you'd pay 15k a night totaling 105k for hotel alone (note return flight to london is 100k).
McReggae
#46 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 4:08:16 PM
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@Washiku you seem not to be getting it!, look at the heading of this thread....Uhuru tells off the west, we are in a hole and still digging jubilants think that China is the solution to all problems. We looked West. . They brought money we stole it. We took loans wasted it. We got grants and blew it away. The rich grew richer the poor remain poor so now we think that by signing some deals with China things have changed, they haven't unless we focus on changing how we think and make real changes we will be here in 2017 looking West and paying East when the regime changes!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Obi 1 Kanobi
#47 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 4:10:39 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
maka wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
Wordsmith10 wrote:
"We do not have to over-rely on the west for tourism, rather we can visit our parks ourselves." Uhuru Kenyatta

In that same spirit, I wrote a small article sharing some of my ideas on some places we (yes you and me) can visit to help build our nation.

More info: http://goo.gl/NFKtmn

And I was bashed here a while back for asking us Kenyans to focus more on domestic tourism in that kenyan tourism in dire straits thread.

Boss are you aware of the situation on the ground?Tell someone who earns 10k try become a domestic tourist atakuchapa ngumi...No matter how hard we try domestic tourism cannot bridge the gap left by international tourists.

You do realize your comment in red is misplaced and misinformed. No idea if it still happens but a while back in L.Nakuru, KWS used to have the locals board their buses on Sundays and take them on a tour into the park. Anyone can be a tourist.


You just made me laugh so hard. When I was young back in Naks, I did one of these bus trips, I think we paid Sh5, I bought a mango, kashata, icecream ya karatasi (cools) and spent a whole Sh10 on domestic tourism.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

At this rate, why should we bother with the west. Lets all go domestic tourism, where exactly at riverroad can I exchange my Sh10 for dollars.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
maka
#48 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 4:11:09 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Keyboard12 wrote:
local tourism is a good idea. we ourselves have not been able to go round the country in praise of its glory. I will start touring soon.


How much is this much talked about local tourism worth by the way?

Kenya itself has no saving culture so I dont how people can give precise estimates on this local tourism.

Taking school children and low class families free of charge to game parks does not constitute "local tourism"...these type of tourist will only be able to buy some ice cream worth 20 bob at the entrace of the parks.

Even if you shove 10 million Kenyans into parks and reserves they still wont come close to a tenth of Western tourism worth.

We talk of guys who will sleep in those bush hotels and lodges for up to 2 weeks on average sio watu who after watching Lions will head back to sleep in Kibera and Langata...

And by the way its much difficult to develop local tourism...For instance what will make Kamau to spend 20K to go hike the top of mount Kenya when he was born in Nanyuki and see nothing new in that trip? Plus he will say that the place is near so one day he will make the trip anyway!

I have never set foot in Tsavo yet I pass right trough it by car/flight 10 times a year and i have money to do so...I keep on saying one day I will visit, no hurry since the place si ni hapa hapa tu!!!

While in China I met chiners porters on the foot of the Greatwall who has never visited the Greatwall themselves yet I was there visiting it for the second time in my visit to China.

Wachaneni na ujinga mwingi.

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


Well putApplause
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jaggernaut
#49 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 4:20:16 PM
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maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Keyboard12 wrote:
local tourism is a good idea. we ourselves have not been able to go round the country in praise of its glory. I will start touring soon.


How much is this much talked about local tourism worth by the way?

Kenya itself has no saving culture so I dont how people can give precise estimates on this local tourism.

Taking school children and low class families free of charge to game parks does not constitute "local tourism"...these type of tourist will only be able to buy some ice cream worth 20 bob at the entrace of the parks.

Even if you shove 10 million Kenyans into parks and reserves they still wont come close to a tenth of Western tourism worth.

We talk of guys who will sleep in those bush hotels and lodges for up to 2 weeks on average sio watu who after watching Lions will head back to sleep in Kibera and Langata...

And by the way its much difficult to develop local tourism...For instance what will make Kamau to spend 20K to go hike the top of mount Kenya when he was born in Nanyuki and see nothing new in that trip? Plus he will say that the place is near so one day he will make the trip anyway!

I have never set foot in Tsavo yet I pass right trough it by car/flight 10 times a year and i have money to do so...I keep on saying one day I will visit, no hurry since the place si ni hapa hapa tu!!!

While in China I met chiners porters on the foot of the Greatwall who has never visited the Greatwall themselves yet I was there visiting it for the second time in my visit to China.

Wachaneni na ujinga mwingi.

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


Well putApplause


Kwani where do all the middo crass and upper class driving range rovers, mercs, etc go on holiday? If each one of them took 2 holidays a year, at coast, mara, samburu etc it would be a big boost for local tourism.
washiku
#50 Posted : Monday, May 19, 2014 4:23:01 PM
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Posts: 13,095
jaggernaut wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Keyboard12 wrote:
local tourism is a good idea. we ourselves have not been able to go round the country in praise of its glory. I will start touring soon.


How much is this much talked about local tourism worth by the way?

Kenya itself has no saving culture so I dont how people can give precise estimates on this local tourism.

Taking school children and low class families free of charge to game parks does not constitute "local tourism"...these type of tourist will only be able to buy some ice cream worth 20 bob at the entrace of the parks.

Even if you shove 10 million Kenyans into parks and reserves they still wont come close to a tenth of Western tourism worth.

We talk of guys who will sleep in those bush hotels and lodges for up to 2 weeks on average sio watu who after watching Lions will head back to sleep in Kibera and Langata...

And by the way its much difficult to develop local tourism...For instance what will make Kamau to spend 20K to go hike the top of mount Kenya when he was born in Nanyuki and see nothing new in that trip? Plus he will say that the place is near so one day he will make the trip anyway!

I have never set foot in Tsavo yet I pass right trough it by car/flight 10 times a year and i have money to do so...I keep on saying one day I will visit, no hurry since the place si ni hapa hapa tu!!!

While in China I met chiners porters on the foot of the Greatwall who has never visited the Greatwall themselves yet I was there visiting it for the second time in my visit to China.

Wachaneni na ujinga mwingi.

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


Well putApplause


Kwani where do all the middo crass and upper class driving range rovers, mercs, etc go on holiday? If each one of them took 2 holidays a year, at coast, mara, samburu etc it would be a big boost for local tourism.


They go to Dubai and Zanzibar, and we need to ask ourselves why?
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