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kysse wrote:Quote:Muhammad and his followers fought many battles. Some were offensive some were defensive. Following a victory the Muslims would take captives, or prisoners of war. Muhammad would usually distribute the captives, both male and female, as slaves to his soldiers. Islam provides some basic rights to its slaves but these rights are limited. Naturally, the rights or demands of the slave owner were greater than those of the slaves. Female slaves were used for primarily for work. But they also provided another service to their male masters ....
FROM THE QURAN - 70:22-30 "Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them: he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor..." http://answering-islam.o...ilas/femalecaptives.htm Sickening @kysse you enjoy so much making fun of Islam. But a good, rational person should understand stereotyping that goes around. JEWS have intentionally developed some websites to spread wrong information about Quran and Hadith. The above website you have quoted is one of them. Below are other bad websites done by people who pretend to be Muslims. I want you to be aware of this: 1. www.answering-islam.org2. www.aboutislam.com3. www.thequran.com4. www.Allahassurance.comadditionally, there was a video showing angels coming from the sky. All these are made by enemies of Islam. And sadly, learned people like @kysse instead of recognizing the hatred by some people, boost the same wrong information about Islam. I sometimes wonder what went wrong with your woman's heart. Women heart always seek brotherhood, truth, honesty, sincerity, and justice. What/who hurt you this much? The Somali guy you were dating in 2012?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Nigeria has accepted the US offer for security personnel in locating the no less than the 200 abducted Nigerian schoolgirls.
When one of Africa's strongest military forces "cannot" locate it's own victims, it raises serious questions as to the capacity of African states to handle internal threats amidst historical corruption and integration issues.
What is worse, AU's modern day role as a champion for the continents oppressed gets indefensible when we have to resort to Western forces operating freely on Africa's resource rich soil. CAR and S Sudan meanwhile remain "forgotten", in the regional and international eye.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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kysse wrote:muganda wrote:But @Alphdoti and @guru267 condemn and denounce this, not so?washiku wrote:[TWEET]463650520184672256[/TWEET Quote:Muhammad and his followers fought many battles. Some were offensive some were defensive. Following a victory the Muslims would take captives, or prisoners of war. Muhammad would usually distribute the captives, both male and female, as slaves to his soldiers. Islam provides some basic rights to its slaves but these rights are limited. Naturally, the rights or demands of the slave owner were greater than those of the slaves. Female slaves were used for primarily for work. But they also provided another service to their male masters ....
FROM THE QURAN - 70:22-30 "Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them: he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor..." http://answering-islam.o...ilas/femalecaptives.htm Sickening @kysse, WHERE DOES THE QURAN SAY RAPE THE CAPTIVES? The text you have highlighted above is addition by the enemies of Islam, from the bad websites done by the people who pretend to be Muslims! See the full verses, starting from a little further back. Quran 70:19-30 19. Truly man was created very impatient 20. Fretful when evil touches him; 21. And niggardly when good reaches him; 22. Not so those devoted to Prayer; 23. Those who remain steadfast to their prayer; 24. And those in whose wealth is a recognised right. 25. For the (needy) who asks and him who is prevented (for some reason from asking); 26. And those who hold to the truth of the Day of Judgment; 27. And those who fear the displeasure of their Lord,- 28. For their Lord´s displeasure is the opposite of Peace and Tranquillity; 29. And those who guard their chastity, 30. Except with their wives and the (captives) (explanation below) whom their right hands possess, for (then) they are not to be blamed, 31. But those who trespass beyond this are transgressors;-This is the explanation:Captives of war may be married as such: ( See this in Quran 4:25 which I will post next to avoid making the post too long): but their status is inferior to that of free wives until they are free. Remember at that time there were wars and it was common thing to take captives, both men and women. This was happening even in my community. But now, this institution of the captives of war is now obsolete. Such inferiority of status as there was, was in the status of captivity, not in the status of marriage as such, in which there are no degrees except by local customs, which Islam does not recognise.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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kysse wrote:FROM THE QURAN - 70:22-30 "Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire ( save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them: he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor..." http://answering-islam.o...ilas/femalecaptives.htm Sickening @kysse why are you hating on Muhammad and the qur'an for obeying the Law of God Almighty who is the God of Abraham??Deuteronomy 22:28-29 "If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." Numbers 31:17-19 Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves. Deuteronomy 20:10-14 "When the LORD your God hands over the town to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.Judges 5:30 " They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a virgin or two for each man" Deuteronomy 21:10-14 "When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a virgin woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house"IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE LAWS TAKE IT UP WITH GOD ON JUDGEMENT DAY! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@kysse captives of war was normal those days. Even today, captives of taken as prisoners of war. And at the time of prophet, wars used to take place, there were captives. When there were captives from both sides, the men and the women, they became slaves. So there is a verse which says you can marry a slave woman (it does not rape her) and give her freedom as dowry. So it was allowed to marry her. So God legalized two types of marriages; first wife (normal i.e. non-slave) and other wife (formerly slave woman)
Quran 4:35 25. If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess (i.e. slaves): (see explanation below) And Allah hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another: Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to what is reasonable: They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours: when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Explanation of the above: That is, captives taken Jihad: Your right hands does not mean necessarily that she has been assigned to you, or is your property. All captures in war belong to the community, they are "yours" in that sense. If you seek such a person in marriage, do it from no base motives. Safeguard your faith, and see that she too does believe. In that case, after all, she is of the human brotherhood, and her condition is accidental and redeemable. If the slave bore a child to her master, she would become free.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:@kysse captives of war was normal those days. Even today, captives of taken as prisoners of war. And at the time of prophet, wars used to take place, there were captives. When there were captives from both sides, the men and the women, they became slaves. So there is a verse which says you can marry a slave woman (it does not rape her) and give her freedom as dowry. So it was allowed to marry her. So God legalized two types of marriages; first wife (normal i.e. non-slave) and other wife (formerly slave woman)
Quran 4:35 25. If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess (i.e. slaves): (see explanation below) And Allah hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another: Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to what is reasonable: They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours: when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Explanation of the above: That is, captives taken Jihad: Your right hands does not mean necessarily that she has been assigned to you, or is your property. All captures in war belong to the community, they are "yours" in that sense. If you seek such a person in marriage, do it from no base motives. Safeguard your faith, and see that she too does believe. In that case, after all, she is of the human brotherhood, and her condition is accidental and redeemable. If the slave bore a child to her master, she would become free. (R). @Alph do not use the Holy Qur'an when debating with people like @kysse.. They are not worthy of its words! The message of Allah is also in the Bible so you could use that to fight their insults! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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I want @kysse to tell us what was the punishment below of the innocents.
Bible Numbers 31:15-17 - And Moses said to them: have you kept all the women alive? Now therefore kill every male among the little ones. (Every male child, among the little ones of the Palestinians, kill them). And kill every woman who has known a man intimately. (if any woman has ever had sex with a man, kill them also). But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately. (The Palestinian youg girls. Not the little ones, little ones are liability, you got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that)
This is the instruction given to Jewish soldiers in the field. Now when they see a young Palestinian girl, how can you verify whether this woman has experienced sex or not? How do you verify? The soldier in the field. He does not know about the saliva test. He does not know anything about that.
The only way is to rape and ravish these Palestinian girls to verify whether a man has been through her or not. And if they discover that she has been already been used, 2nd hand, chop off her head. If not, keep them.
And they saved for themselves 32,000 Palestinian girls, who had not known a man intimately (Numbers 31:35) (After raping them, they saved themselves 32,000 and out of that, the Lord Almighty, God Almighty must also have a pound of flesh)
Numbers 31:40 ... Of which Lord's tribute was 32 persons (I'm asking what does the Lord do with 32 raped and ravished Palestinian girls?)
You tell us. In a book of God! God giving instructions that you go along and verify! God talking this filth and dirt, kill every little child! Male and female, kill them all! Only young girls, you must keep them and they too one that they have not known a man sexually.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:I want @kysse to tell us what was the punishment below of the innocents.
Bible Numbers 31:15-17 - And Moses said to them: have you kept all the women alive? Now therefore kill every male among the little ones. (Every male child, among the little ones of the Palestinians, kill them). And kill every woman who has known a man intimately. (if any woman has ever had sex with a man, kill them also). But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately. (The Palestinian youg girls. Not the little ones, little ones are liability, you got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that)
This is the instruction given to Jewish soldiers in the field. Now when they see a young Palestinian girl, how can you verify whether this woman has experienced sex or not? How do you verify? The soldier in the field. He does not know about the saliva test. He does not know anything about that.
The only way is to rape and ravish these Palestinian girls to verify whether a man has been through her or not. And if they discover that she has been already been used, 2nd hand, chop off her head. If not, keep them.
And they saved for themselves 32,000 Palestinian girls, who had not known a man intimately (Numbers 31:35) (After raping them, they saved themselves 32,000 and out of that, the Lord Almighty, God Almighty must also have a pound of flesh)
Numbers 31:40 ... Of which Lord's tribute was 32 persons (I'm asking what does the Lord do with 32 raped and ravished Palestinian girls?)
You tell us. In a book of God! God giving instructions that you go along and verify! God talking this filth and dirt, kill every little child! Male and female, kill them all! Only young girls, you must keep them and they too one that they have not known a man sexually. so... is this supposed to make what boko haram is doing "fine" or "even"? you quote texts that were written a couple of thousand years ago to somehow get even with acts that happened this week? really? really? the best you can do is show a group of christians that have used those texts above to do harm to young girls... even that does not somehow make what boko haram has done ok!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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@ alpha @ guru del. no use Adios.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:so... is this supposed to make what boko haram is doing "fine" or "even"? you quote texts that were written a couple of thousand years ago to somehow get even with acts that happened this week? really? really? the best you can do is show a group of christians that have used those texts above to do harm to young girls... even that does not somehow make what boko haram has done ok!! @masukuma I appeal to your intellect if you have one! PLEASE!! We are simply trying showing you and every other Islam hater out there that whatever you try and quote from the Qur'an and connect to terrorism is also the commandment of your Holy Bible, the commandment of your God Yahweh!So every time you hate on Muhammad I will simply show you he was commanded by Yahweh! SAWA?? Go and burn your Bibles now since Boko Haram is following the law of Yahweh and the law of Moses! Nkt! And ban all religions while you are at it! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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