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madollar wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:My greatest worry is that someone who has studied law (a magistrate) can see merit in such a charge. But what do I know? DPP has recalled the file .Why charge the drivers.. That is the right procedure. It is not the duty of a judge to exercise prejudice even before the arguments are made in court. He is not to anticipate what evidence or depth of arguments the prosecution will be making. It is however the duty of the prosecutor to ensure that no farce of a suit is taken to court by or on behalf of the Government. Dunia ni msongamano..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,941
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Reading through this thread, it is clear some guys are high on Jubilee Gove bangi! SAD! Poor Kenya, heri TZ! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:murchr wrote:People go read the bill of rights and responsibilities of a citizen as enshrined in the constitution and quit spewing your ignorance here
--Citizens have to ensure the government protects its people rights and freedoms and the country against internal and external threats to its territorial integrity and sovereignty.
When you apply for a PSV license either as a driver or mat owner, you have taken/signed up to the responsibilities of protecting every citizen in that vehicle. That is why if an accident occurs and you are found to have violated any rules, then you are charged with murder or manslaughter.
@Muchr, You have hit rock bottom, please stop digging. A matatu licence now has expanded responsibilities for stopping terrorsit acts  What is the use of a License? Its main purpose is to cut you out of the pack something to show that you are certified to give a service. That the public can have confidence in you for the sercive that you give. Now that comes with responsibility and thats why there are rules and regulations. If you who holds a license has violated the rules and regulations then you need to be accountable for your actions. The same applies to other service givers eg doctors, hospitality establishments etc. Hi Dennis Itumbi! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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The moment they argued that nyumba kumi came from the US I knew they live in a place where weed is taken for breakfast. I knew it was coming. This is stupidity that even I could never have anticipated from people who say that coins are not used in America. They use Equity beba beba cards. Did they arrest the OCS for allowing his cops to enter a car laden with bombs? Hii serekali. Ati 20yrs. Some people are really joking. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/31/2008 Posts: 1,076
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alma wrote:The moment they argued that nyumba kumi came from the US I knew they live in a place where weed is taken for breakfast.
I knew it was coming.
This is stupidity that even I could never have anticipated from people who say that coins are not used in America. They use Equity beba beba cards.
Did they arrest the OCS for allowing his cops to enter a car laden with bombs?
Hii serekali. Ati 20yrs. Some people are really joking. At least the cops had seized the offending vehicle before it swallowed them! May be, just may be, if the makangas had arrested their vehicle they would be pronounced innocent posthumously or alive! What can I say! If the law applied in the sense that people here are arguing, we would all be guilty of one silly thing or another, depending on the fertile imagination of the all too common, overzealous operatives keen to divert attention and blame from their ineptitude and that of their objects of sycophancy! Dunia ni msongamano..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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alma wrote:The moment they argued that nyumba kumi came from the US I knew they live in a place where weed is taken for breakfast.
I knew it was coming.
This is stupidity that even I could never have anticipated from people who say that coins are not used in America. They use Equity beba beba cards.
Did they arrest the OCS for allowing his cops to enter a car laden with bombs?
Hii serekali. Ati 20yrs. Some people are really joking. . @Alma umenena kama 10 wise men. I am very sad to have lost a Mohamed Aliyan was a close friend and he was shot dead in Malindi last Sunday, he was a key figure alongside the late Bakhswein (shot in March) in the anti terror efforts. Yet the killers have not been neutralised, they are keen in eliminating and neutralizing the government effort and assets. I've been keen in support of the gourment on matters anti terror until the other day. I've come to realize that: 1. We are in a war without a strategy 2. The enemy is not defined, remains unknown 3. The war council is ill constituted to advise the general. What informs these observations? 1. The choice of CS,PS for interior and IGP does not inspire confidence even 1 year down the line, why must it be these fellows who have clearly failed? 2. Change of narrative especially after Westgate, the "war council" is opposed to a thorough investigation. 3. The change of narrative, from blaming it on foreigners hence immigration. The advise on the usalama operation was amateurish. Then came the advise on CCTV, fresh registration, nyumba ten.... 4. No attempts are made to reveal and unearth the key players in the continued attacks from their financiers, the operatives, no one attempts to link these attacks on the overall effects on the economy. Instead all there is is scapegoating all over, from the touts and drivers, to the victims of Mwembe Tayari incident, to what not.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Rahatupu wrote:alma wrote:The moment they argued that nyumba kumi came from the US I knew they live in a place where weed is taken for breakfast.
I knew it was coming.
This is stupidity that even I could never have anticipated from people who say that coins are not used in America. They use Equity beba beba cards.
Did they arrest the OCS for allowing his cops to enter a car laden with bombs?
Hii serekali. Ati 20yrs. Some people are really joking. . @Alma umenena kama 10 wise men. I am very sad to have lost a Mohamed Aliyan was a close friend and he was shot dead in Malindi last Sunday, he was a key figure alongside the late Bakhswein (shot in March) in the anti terror efforts. Yet the killers have not been neutralised, they are keen in eliminating and neutralizing the government effort and assets. I've been keen in support of the gourment on matters anti terror until the other day. I've come to realize that: 1. We are in a war without a strategy 2. The enemy is not defined, remains unknown 3. The war council is ill constituted to advise the general. What informs these observations? 1. The choice of CS,PS for interior and IGP does not inspire confidence even 1 year down the line, why must it be these fellows who have clearly failed? 2. Change of narrative especially after Westgate, the "war council" is opposed to a thorough investigation. 3. The change of narrative, from blaming it on foreigners hence immigration. The advise on the usalama operation was amateurish. Then came the advise on CCTV, fresh registration, nyumba ten.... 4. No attempts are made to reveal and unearth the key players in the continued attacks from their financiers, the operatives, no one attempts to link these attacks on the overall effects on the economy. Instead all there is is scapegoating all over, from the touts and drivers, to the victims of Mwembe Tayari incident, to what not. Well put @njubiree aint serious about security (are they serious on anything?) at all!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Having hotline numbers to the police isn't even a reasonable way for the citizen to show vigilance. Imagine the marginal cost of police taking each call seriously. Or the cost of not boarding public vehicles or insisting on security checks everywhere.
The government on the other hand can't do much on its own especially because it has neither extensive capital nor market control.
In my opinion, the questions of who, what, why. . . can only be answered by 'the capitalist system' which creates the conflicts we are experiencing. And as such, is the real enemy. Brother, so you are saying the present antagonistic conflict-inducing capitalist system needs to be replaced by another, different and new system if there is to be peace, security, harmony, oneness, unity, love, in the world? I am of the opinion that the neutering of the real enemy - the present capitalistic system - will only be worse for us and bring trouble such as have never been since the earth was created! Yet, lets get it over and done with! I hold on to hope but our ways(local and global) betray us.The love of money,materialism,egocentrism....in the end greed(and its various expressions) gets them all.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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When we are done venting at 'serikali' for your greed and that of the systemic failures, please have the the same energy to discuss what you actually propose as your role in security matters, other than paying tax( for those who actually do!!), at this rate, that is if you actually think you have any role to play.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Having hotline numbers to the police isn't even a reasonable way for the citizen to show vigilance. Imagine the marginal cost of police taking each call seriously. Or the cost of not boarding public vehicles or insisting on security checks everywhere.
The government on the other hand can't do much on its own especially because it has neither extensive capital nor market control.
In my opinion, the questions of who, what, why. . . can only be answered by 'the capitalist system' which creates the conflicts we are experiencing. And as such, is the real enemy. Brother, so you are saying the present antagonistic conflict-inducing capitalist system needs to be replaced by another, different and new system if there is to be peace, security, harmony, oneness, unity, love, in the world? I am of the opinion that the neutering of the real enemy - the present capitalistic system - will only be worse for us and bring trouble such as have never been since the earth was created! Yet, lets get it over and done with! I hold on to hope but our ways(local and global) betray us.The love of money,materialism,egocentrism....in the end greed(and its various expressions) gets them all. Man! Do you know today I meant to put up a post asking where you guys have gone? I only remembered after seeing this! Where have you been? I do notice when you are not around, and brother too!
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