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Greatwall Apartments - whats your take?
madollar
#21 Posted : Friday, November 08, 2013 3:42:37 PM
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Now going for 4 million i.e cash buyers still very tempting
obiero
#22 Posted : Friday, November 08, 2013 4:31:54 PM
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unaeza nunua but sidhani hizo nyumba ziko na foundation! apparently, the contractor did poor work. kindly get independent advise from own professionals before parting with cash
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
madebe
#23 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:44:05 AM
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The advert on page 44 of DN is misleading. To say that greatwal phase 3 is complete is hoodwinking people. Because IT IS NOT complete! We are suffering with lie.
Gathige
#24 Posted : Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:48:46 AM
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madebe wrote:
The advert on page 44 of DN is misleading. To say that greatwal phase 3 is complete is hoodwinking people. Because IT IS NOT complete! We are suffering with lie.


@Madebe,Marketers are like those guys selling mitumba- when they say the price is 1k you have to reduce it to like 200bob to arrive at the real price.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
jokes
#25 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 9:40:15 AM
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Lets not over analyze.
If you like and have the money (cash) buy. its a three bed-roomed apartment. The downside is that you have to wait to get your house to be built. 4 million to me is a good deal for a three bed roomed apartment. The location is great if you have the future in mind. This a property that is a guaranteed return on investment especially rents and appreciation. Pay a visit and look around then comment.
If you have to mortgage don't. buy a plot and build.The end payment from mortgages are onerous. you will probably end up paying more than 4 times the value of the house.

Be advised i hold no brief for the company this is a personal opinion.
Pesa Nane
#26 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 3:57:03 PM
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madebe wrote:
The advert on page 44 of DN is misleading. To say that greatwal phase 3 is complete is hoodwinking people. Because IT IS NOT complete! We are suffering with lie.

@madebe, What came of the GreatWall Apartments Phase 3? Is it complete? Was it handed over? Good quality?

What is progress of the Phase 2?
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Coolbull
#27 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 5:51:24 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@ kyt..very tru..kenyans should brace themselves for structural failures on these high-rise buildings for sale..not all of them have used qualified and registered consultants in the supervision hence serious flaws within. Buyers should insist on seeing proof of consultant registration and proof of construction supervision e.g site meeting minutes before they commit to buy




@a4architect - you've made me cringe. I was in one building, built next to a road and when cars passed outside one would feel like the vehicles were in the next room. A minor tremor will bring the building down. I think that building was put up by watu wa mkono from a nearby site on their way home.




maka
#28 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 6:30:21 PM
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madebe wrote:
The advert on page 44 of DN is misleading. To say that greatwal phase 3 is complete is hoodwinking people. Because IT IS NOT complete! We are suffering with lie.

They have sat on peoples deposits for ages,they were supposed to be complete by Oct last year lakini wapi....
possunt quia posse videntur
a4architect.com
#29 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 6:37:36 PM
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Coolbull wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@ kyt..very tru..kenyans should brace themselves for structural failures on these high-rise buildings for sale..not all of them have used qualified and registered consultants in the supervision hence serious flaws within. Buyers should insist on seeing proof of consultant registration and proof of construction supervision e.g site meeting minutes before they commit to buy




@a4architect - you've made me cringe. I was in one building, built next to a road and when cars passed outside one would feel like the vehicles were in the next room. A minor tremor will bring the building down. I think that building was put up by watu wa mkono from a nearby site on their way home.






@coolbull, relax, construction failures are quite rare. In Kenya , unfortunately, anyone, including yourself, can buy land, get round through approvals, hire laborers to construct then sell the houses, all without any professional input form architect/engineer etc and get away with it. The risk is then borne by the buyer. In other countries eg south africa, usa etc its next to impossible to circumvent laid down best practice/procedure for real estate development for sale to the public. I usually get emails from buyers in such situations but the current law doesnt cater for their compensation since its a willing buyer willing seller basis, without any mention to contractor and consultants unlike the best practice internationally whereby there is a fall back position.
The real estate consumer protection laws in kenya need to be revised to be similar to south africa/usa etc to ensure developers follow zero shortcuts before they are allowed to sell to the public.
As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
Pesa Nane
#30 Posted : Monday, May 05, 2014 7:58:35 PM
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Coolbull wrote:

@a4architect - you've made me cringe. I was in one building, built next to a road and when cars passed outside one would feel like the vehicles were in the next room. A minor tremor will bring the building down. I think that building was put up by watu wa mkono from a nearby site on their way home.

@Coolbull, citizen duty! Name and shame before they collapse on us.

@a4architect, is this project suspect?
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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