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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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LOL Alma just because you have been called out for decieving instead of a proper reply you resort to fallacies. Moving on swiftly Other than discussing the 5W's & 1H (Muriel please google, it helps) and asking ourselves who is a beneficiary of the violence, I think we as Kenyans have the repsonsibility to collectively ponder on the next cause of action/s. Say there is another planned attack in two days time, what exactly would the government, police and citizen do to prevent it or minimize impact. Actionable items and not things like stopping corruption etc real stuff.
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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alma wrote:Kratos wrote:jokes wrote:Kratos wrote:Blame game galore. Apportioning blame is a favourite activity for Kenyans. Has is it ever helped here or anywhere? I would have expected the learned here in Wazua to be different instead of joining the bandwagon of police corruption, Ole Lenku, the goverment, Uhuru etc.
In my opiion, when facing a crisis the first thing is not to first look on someone to blame but rather identify the 5W's & H. (Who, What, When,Where, Why & How)
1. Who is responsible for the attacks
2. What is causing the attacks
3. When did they start
4. Where is it happening
5. Why is it happening
6. How are the attacks being carried out
But no, we all want to point fingers and feel smart about it.
Terrorism as @ Tycho has pointed out has never been succesfuly dealt with anywhere. The reason its called so is because everyone is unable to predict and firmly deal with such tactics being employed and the sooner we change our mindsets then we can trully start understanding what is going on around us.
Like i said...... IF EVER IN DOUBT FOLLOW THE MONEY!
Thats good,
who stands to benefit from this violence
that is where this discussion should be focused on That there is the big question no one is asking! Oh boy let me guess. Raira? Someone trying to destabilise the gov't? white people? who? Please do tell us the theory. We Kenyan minions are too slow to understand. Here we are thinking that its Alshabab that is attacking us. Silly us. Who stands to benefit from this violence? I guess your mind does not allow to have opposing opinions on one issue. Alma, thinking is free try it sometimes. If you have Alphadoti for a groupie you must surely be in bliss 
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Kratos rather than following Alma around like a pound puppy, some of us are waiting for your 5W's & 1H. The wajuaji Kenyans would benefit from your wisdom. So I'll shut up and listen to you. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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@Alma....What's your take on this
"police revealed that the terror suspects behind a similar attack on a bus in Mombasa on Saturday had been arrested and released by the courts. The two, Mr Suleiman Mohamed Said and Mr Jamal Mohamed Awadh, were in the Masjid Musa when police raided it in February to flush out radicalised youth who were attending a banned seminar on Islamic jihad"
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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alma wrote:Kratos rather than following Alma around like a pound puppy, some of us are waiting for your 5W's & 1H.
The wajuaji Kenyans would benefit from your wisdom.
So I'll shut up and listen to you.  no one is following you around dont be paranoid. You are the one whose opinions are supposedly "supreme" and "final facts". You have no time for opposing views, we should all bow down in awe of your "wisdom". Just because I suggested the 5W's & 1H doesnt mean I have to give mine am just trying to get other input other than what youre spewing. Unlike you I welcome all input including yours
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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TAZ wrote:@Alma....What's your take on this
"police revealed that the terror suspects behind a similar attack on a bus in Mombasa on Saturday had been arrested and released by the courts. The two, Mr Suleiman Mohamed Said and Mr Jamal Mohamed Awadh, were in the Masjid Musa when police raided it in February to flush out radicalised youth who were attending a banned seminar on Islamic jihad"
As we listen to the crickets coming from the that other fellow who can't even answer his own question. I'll say this. To be honest Taz, I'm confused. On one hand, I'm shocked that they could be released. On the other hand, I've heard this story before from the police. Is it ok with you if I remain skeptical, confused and hopeful? Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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How exactly did we know it's Alshabaab? Are we seeing the risk of other criminals hiding behind this Alshabaab thing? Is our government happy with such conclusions? Do we have intelligence in place? What happened to those guys from NIS I used to hear they are in all corners acting like kawasaki guys? Ati some even acts like mkokoteni pushers? Through previous attacks, we have heard that there are young boys being radicalised in the name of Muslim? Have our NIS planted guys to be radicalised? Who exactly is asleep?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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TAZ wrote:@Alma....What's your take on this
"police revealed that the terror suspects behind a similar attack on a bus in Mombasa on Saturday had been arrested and released by the courts. The two, Mr Suleiman Mohamed Said and Mr Jamal Mohamed Awadh, were in the Masjid Musa when police raided it in February to flush out radicalised youth who were attending a banned seminar on Islamic jihad"
Loop hole...The law. Solution? Parliament. Majority members? Jubilee. Uhuru must whip his guys to sort him out. Tuachane na flag and emblems first. There is a more urgent issue here.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Kratos wrote:LOL Alma just because you have been called out for decieving instead of a proper reply you resort to fallacies.
Moving on swiftly
Other than discussing the 5W's & 1H (Muriel please google, it helps) and asking ourselves who is a beneficiary of the violence, I think we as Kenyans have the repsonsibility to collectively ponder on the next cause of action/s. Say there is another planned attack in two days time, what exactly would the government, police and citizen do to prevent it or minimize impact. Actionable items and not things like stopping corruption etc real stuff.
Kratos, please do not take offense. I am only going with the information you put here or is there any reason why I should not trust you about it? What other discussion about 5W and 1H is there when I am just trying to discuss what you on your own volition broached? Was it an erroneous point that you now want to hurriedly discard it? Why are you running away from it? Siringi thought it was an excellent point. Don't you think it is? Before moving on swiftly Kratos, because you, Kratos, suggested the 5W and 1H you should take the lead and tell what you think they are, e.g. what is causing the attacks, so what is it causing the attacks? In your opinion, when facing a crisis the first thing is not to first look on someone to blame but rather identify the 5W's & H. (Who, What, When,Where, Why & How). I hear Murchr also amesema yake so you also sema yako, put your input here, bwana, don't be shy about it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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alma wrote:TAZ wrote:@Alma....What's your take on this
"police revealed that the terror suspects behind a similar attack on a bus in Mombasa on Saturday had been arrested and released by the courts. The two, Mr Suleiman Mohamed Said and Mr Jamal Mohamed Awadh, were in the Masjid Musa when police raided it in February to flush out radicalised youth who were attending a banned seminar on Islamic jihad"
As we listen to the crickets coming from the that other fellow who can't even answer his own question. I'll say this. To be honest Taz, I'm confused. On one hand, I'm shocked that they could be released. On the other hand, I've heard this story before from the police. Is it ok with you if I remain skeptical, confused and hopeful? They will go the Makaburi way!!!
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