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Burning of Ivory
Capri
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:29:54 AM
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I did not get it the first time it happened and I don't get it now.

So you set ablaze over 60M worth of ivory, in a country where people are dying of hunger. And has a million other issues requiring cash, eg hospitals, water etc...

The elephants are dead, we could or did not stop it. Burning the tusks will not bring them back, is there no other way ?
MaichBlack
#2 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:39:45 AM
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Capri wrote:
I did not get it the first time it happened and I don't get it now.

So you set ablaze over 60M worth of ivory, in a country where people are dying of hunger. And has a million other issues requiring cash, eg hospitals, water etc...

The elephants are dead, we could or did not stop it. Burning the tusks will not bring them back, is there no other way ?

Maybe we should also be selling all the drugs that are intercepted by our security forces. I can remember cocaine worth around 6 billion being burnt while we had "million other issues requiring cash...". Maybe we should have sold them? People will always take drugs anyway...

This is not rocket science. If the government sells the ivory, they create/support/expand the market for ivory. Next time the government will have no ivory to sell and guess where the ivory will come from. More elephants will be killed! Kenya has zero tolerance to trade in ivory and other game products. They fight to prevent even controlled trade by other countries of stockpiles of ivory. How can they turn around and engage in the same trade?
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Sober
#3 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:06:55 AM
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si wangeauza!!!
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McReggae
#4 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:10:44 AM
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Apparently Kenya only burnt 10% of it's stock pile:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14217147
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cmk
#5 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:48:32 AM
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[quote=Capri]I did not get it the first time it happened and I don't get it now.

So you set ablaze over 60M worth of ivory, in a country where people are dying of hunger. And has a million other issues requiring cash, eg hospitals, water etc...

The elephants are dead, we could or did not stop it. Burning the tusks will not bring them back, is there no other way ? [/quo

yeah!you will never get..just give up..
the elephants are dead but more will be killed because we will have opened a market for the ivory..now do you get it??
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cmk
#6 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:51:03 AM
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bwenyenye
#7 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:02:43 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Apparently Kenya only burnt 10% of it's stock pile:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14217147


Mc, I know you are above petty journalist propaganda boss

'The BBC's Wazir Khamsin in Munyani says the ivory that went up in flames on Wednesday represents only 10% of Kenya's stockpile'.

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Insurgent
#8 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:29:24 PM
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Capri wrote:
I did not get it the first time it happened and I don't get it now.

So you set ablaze over 60M worth of ivory, in a country where people are dying of hunger. And has a million other issues requiring cash, eg hospitals, water etc...

The elephants are dead, we could or did not stop it. Burning the tusks will not bring them back, is there no other way ?


There is no other way. But don't worry, your reasoning is commensurate to the general Kenyan reasoning capacity. That is why you don't see sense in what Kibaki has been doing for this country. He organisezes for Vision 2030, you say it is impossible, he sees to it Thika highway is built, you say a railway line would have been more appropriate, now that a railway line is in the works, you say the country should should have built a superhighway to Saudi Arabia, poow!

Copied from elsewhere

Flash back to 2008:

So construction on the eight-lane Thika Road highway is due to being on Monday. Three Chinese firms have been contracted at a cost of Ksh27 billion to build the road and have been warned by Acting Roads Minister Chris Obure (Not Kibaki) that unneccessary delays will not be tolerated.

The new highway sounds swizzy, with underpasses, flyovers, pedestrian separators and interchanges instead of roundabouts. In addition, roads are to be replanned within Nairobi to ensure that major parking bays are outside the central business district (CBD) to cut down on congestion, while there is to be an expansion to the Outer Ring Road to bring Uhuru Highway and Mombasa Road up to a standard to cope with the new highway’s traffic. Mr. Obure has been busy!

But are Kenyans happy? Not if the comments in the linked Standard article are to be believed. Moaning about how China already has maglev trains and we don’t, bitching that the wrong road is being upgraded, even bringing tribalism into it! Kenneth Butichi in Oman and Marion Achola in Kenya, I’m looking at you. For shame.

Do I think that it should have been the Thika Road that got developed? Personally, no, as I have had a bee in my bonnet about what is supposed to be the Trans-African Highway since I was 12. But I understand why that wasn’t the first priority, as that would be enormously expensive and hugely disruptive.

The Thika Road project should be seen as a trial run to see if: a) we can trust the Chinese contractors to complete on time and on budget, and b) congestion on that particular route improves. If both these conditions are met, I’m sure that there are already other roads on the drawing board that will receive the Thika treatement, subject to funding.

http://inarimedia.wordpr...-to-begin-on-thika-road/


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butterflyke
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 7:51:52 PM
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Destroying Elephant Ivory: No Easy Matter



C&P: "When the Philippines destroyed its five-ton stockpile of seized elephant tusks on June 21, it marked not only the first time an ivory-consuming nation took such a public action but also the first time a country took key steps to guarantee that it could not re-enter the black market.

Before this, all previous large-scale public destructions were by fire. The burning of 12 tons of elephant tusks by Kenya in 1989 captured media attention and helped lead to the international ivory trade ban the following year.

It also set the standard for future destruction of ivory stockpiles. Zambia burned 9.5 tons in 1992; Kenya, another 5 tons in 2011; Gabon, 4.8 tons in 2012.

The Philippines, rather than opting for the visually evocative burning of a massive pyre, decided to crush its ivory with road equipment and burn what remained.

A Durable Substance

Unless the fire is sustained at high temperatures for long periods of time, burning does not destroy elephant ivory. Instead, it chars the exterior and leaves the inside intact.

Consider what happens with human teeth. Whether subjected to fiery car crashes or raging house fires, these tiny pieces endure. That’s why they’re used for identification when everything else is annihilated."
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masukuma
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 9:04:56 PM
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in my 5000 th post i share a bright idea i once read....someone had a bright idea.... why don't all countries with stockpiles keep them and continually clean-up the ones being trafficked to push up the prices and then one day - flood the market with tonnes of ivory! and like quail eggs they won't be worth a dime and therefore a bad business idea.
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