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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
VituVingiSana
#701 Posted : Monday, April 14, 2014 6:06:28 PM
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murchr wrote:
dunkang wrote:
@Murchr, how can that happen in North America?

Is aviation and security technology over-hyped?


But ofcourse how can such a blander happen in this day where we have gps in everything? But un professionalism in the aviation sector is common in North America in 2011 an Egypt Air plane almost crushed headon with a Lufthansa plane at JFKIA while taxing..the Egypt air plane took a wrong turn on instructions by the air traffic controller. They stopped the two planes but the Lufthansa plane got damaged. Anyway this is a KQ thread
JFK has hundreds of flights per day. Possibly 1,000+ [includes takeoffs + landings and I am sure there are stats somewhere] and I have a feeling that JFK has more flights in a month than Dar+ JKIA has in a year. There was a great article about the over-worked Air Traffic Controllers at JFK. Back to KQ... Let's hope for no more mishaps. They need every plane in the air!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Siringi
#702 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:41:37 PM
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"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
premio
#703 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:51:47 PM
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Am a pilot(not KQ) and i really pity the kind of views expressed in this page by people who know nothing about Aviation.Runway excursions on ILS approach to a CAT 2 airport in poor visibility, heavy rains are a common everyday occurence and a rarely due to pilot error. Whatever happened leave it to the professionals a report will be made. KQ pilots are as good as the world best. They are flying the Boeing 777-200, 777-300, the dreamliner. Incidents happen everyday worldwide How many crash landings has BA had in the last 1 year alone at Heathrow only? Does that make their pilots bad? no they are one of the best. FYI the KQ 777 video a guy has displayed here on approach to Amsterdam in heavy crosswinds is a display of superhuman skills and the pilot ability to correct the angle and is used worlwide for training.
murchr
#704 Posted : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 7:29:49 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
dunkang wrote:
@Murchr, how can that happen in North America?

Is aviation and security technology over-hyped?


But ofcourse how can such a blander happen in this day where we have gps in everything? But un professionalism in the aviation sector is common in North America in 2011 an Egypt Air plane almost crushed headon with a Lufthansa plane at JFKIA while taxing..the Egypt air plane took a wrong turn on instructions by the air traffic controller. They stopped the two planes but the Lufthansa plane got damaged. Anyway this is a KQ thread
JFK has hundreds of flights per day. Possibly 1,000+ [includes takeoffs + landings and I am sure there are stats somewhere] and I have a feeling that JFK has more flights in a month than Dar+ JKIA has in a year. There was a great article about the over-worked Air Traffic Controllers at JFK. Back to KQ... Let's hope for no more mishaps. They need every plane in the air!


VVS its nothing to do with being overworked bla bla, its simply incompetence. When planes taxi on the run ways they are led by several people who use a pre determined routes. In large airports the controllers man certain routes and almost everything is automated, infact they find it so boring that several have been caught asleep leading to planes landing without them.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Mucene
#705 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:41:56 AM
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Location: Kenya
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
dunkang wrote:
@Murchr, how can that happen in North America?

Is aviation and security technology over-hyped?


But ofcourse how can such a blander happen in this day where we have gps in everything? But un professionalism in the aviation sector is common in North America in 2011 an Egypt Air plane almost crushed headon with a Lufthansa plane at JFKIA while taxing..the Egypt air plane took a wrong turn on instructions by the air traffic controller. They stopped the two planes but the Lufthansa plane got damaged. Anyway this is a KQ thread
JFK has hundreds of flights per day. Possibly 1,000+ [includes takeoffs + landings and I am sure there are stats somewhere] and I have a feeling that JFK has more flights in a month than Dar+ JKIA has in a year. There was a great article about the over-worked Air Traffic Controllers at JFK. Back to KQ... Let's hope for no more mishaps. They need every plane in the air!


VVS its nothing to do with being overworked bla bla, its simply incompetence. When planes taxi on the run ways they are led by several people who use a pre determined routes. In large airports the controllers man certain routes and almost everything is automated, infact they find it so boring that several have been caught asleep leading to planes landing without them.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
The time the controllers sleep is mainly the night shift because of lesser traffic and the relatively long hours per shift that they do. Automation is not a reason. They actually give a lot of information to the aircraft's captain
If you don't want to go to plan B have a good plan A.
Siringi
#706 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:00:05 AM
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Sad employs waiganjos any guesses how the interviews went down Sad how many more huko

anybody factcheck the story

"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
Boris Boyka
#707 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:47:53 PM
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12.45 heading south where is @obiero
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
obiero
#708 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:54:01 PM
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im here.. watchin the counter daily helps no one.. bought the thing at sub 10.. niko poa kaka/dada

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
murchr
#709 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 5:16:53 AM
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Best African Airline 2014 - Yours truly will that = to money? Time will tell.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mlennyma
#710 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 2:06:38 PM
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And kq has really taken long to make obiero rich.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
obiero
#711 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 8:52:27 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
And kq has really taken long to make obiero rich.

hata mimi nashangaa lakini sifi moyo.. money is around the corner :)

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Richie rich
#712 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 10:55:02 PM
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obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
And kq has really taken long to make obiero rich.

hata mimi nashangaa lakini sifi moyo.. money is around the corner :)


I like the spirit bro@obiero even though 19 looks very far surely will be reached depending on how the debts are utilize to increase earnings
The God of the day is still God in the night.
Boris Boyka
#713 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 11:09:41 PM
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Richie rich wrote:

obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
And kq has really taken long to make obiero rich.

hata mimi nashangaa lakini sifi moyo.. money is around the corner :)


I like the spirit bro@obiero even though 19 looks very far surely will be reached depending on how the debts are utilize to increase earnings

@Obiero "mucene" had it PORK was to increase his stake significantly. @Rich same to u. Now has he or is he still or is he running away. I think big players know what we don't know and are cause of this " descending " either entering at low levels or........
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#714 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 9:30:42 AM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Richie rich wrote:

obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
And kq has really taken long to make obiero rich.

hata mimi nashangaa lakini sifi moyo.. money is around the corner :)


I like the spirit bro@obiero even though 19 looks very far surely will be reached depending on how the debts are utilize to increase earnings

@Obiero "mucene" had it PORK was to increase his stake significantly. @Rich same to u. Now has he or is he still or is he running away. I think big players know what we don't know and are cause of this " descending " either entering at low levels or........

I see it edging up from mid month through beginning of next month as speculators position themselves for accounts release.
The rise will be slow and sure, just as happened in 2005.
@SufficientlyP
mlennyma
#715 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 10:05:03 AM
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The way I have witnessed several counters skyrocket,I now agree that stocks need a very bold person who doesn't shake even when there seems to be a dead end,one who doesn't sell just because of a 2 shillings gain,a day to celebrate definately comes if you are sure the stock is fundamentally sound.obiero stay put with the national carrier,it can only go under where we have no gvt.I will buy next week some in bits to join you.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
mlennyma
#716 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 10:06:07 AM
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The way I have witnessed several counters skyrocket,I now agree that stocks need a very bold person who doesn't shake even when there seems to be a dead end,one who doesn't sell just because of a 2 shillings gain,a day to celebrate definately comes if you are sure the stock is fundamentally sound.obiero stay put with the national carrier,it can only go under where we have no gvt.I will buy next week some in bits to join you.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
maka
#717 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 12:31:01 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Richie rich wrote:

obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
And kq has really taken long to make
obiero rich.

hata mimi nashangaa lakini sifi moyo.. money is around the corner
:)


I like the spirit bro@obiero even though 19 looks very far surely will
be reached depending on how the debts are utilize to increase
earnings

@Obiero "mucene" had it PORK was to increase his stake significantly.
@Rich same to u. Now has he or is he still or is he running away. I
think big players know what we don't know and are cause of this "
descending " either entering at low levels or........

The last few months he has been strictly chartering a KQ plane and those VVIP flights make lots of money for KQ...the dar plane is out for atleast 3 months.
possunt quia posse videntur
harrydre
#718 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 1:36:37 PM
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How I wish I had bought more of this stock...but am still smile anyway...
i.am.back!!!!
Gordon Gekko
#719 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 8:53:03 PM
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@maka, has PORK been chartering or has he been using regular flights? What has he been chartering - Embraer? Why would he charter and there is the Fokker? He did Europe on regular flights, I know because he flew together with my fare paying friend Benjamin Ochieng (God is not dead).
murchr
#720 Posted : Saturday, May 03, 2014 9:16:35 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@maka, has PORK been chartering or has he been using regular flights? What has he been chartering - Embraer? Why would he charter and there is the Fokker? He did Europe on regular flights, I know because he flew together with my fare paying friend Benjamin Ochieng (God is not dead).


Never take this guy @maka seriously. I think ni kukosa kuelewa maana ya maneno mengine.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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