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UEFA Champions League 2013/14
Coolio
#1161 Posted : Tuesday, April 29, 2014 11:56:39 PM
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I predict a bus vs bus final.
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masukuma
#1162 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:03:32 AM
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Coolio wrote:
I predict a bus vs bus final.

taka taka nonsense imetupwa nyuma!!
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Pesa Nane
#1163 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:25:13 AM
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quicksand wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
I wish the final will not be an all Spanish affair! That would be boring.
Hate Chelsea but hope they grace the final.

If Chelsea make the final it will be the saddest final in CL you will ever see. Cant put it past Mourinho to defend with all 11 men and prime Petr Cech day and night to stop the spot shots.

He might not play Sad
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smano
#1164 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:16:09 AM
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All the predictions were thrown out of the window...

"Football, bloody hell!"

Today's pre match conferences

http://www.uefa.com/uefa...atch/preview/index.html

I will not be surprised if this one goes to penalties...
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KulaRaha
#1165 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:37:01 AM
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As Jose said, for each Team a different strategy...let's watch and see!
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Kausha
#1166 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:58:18 AM
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Why the vitriol on our beloved Chelsea. Football like life requires dynamism. One great formula is no panacea for all situations. Pep was caught out again, his teams just like Arsenal,Mike Tyson and lately liverpool have one formula which is great for neutral purists but men when one is partisan you want to see the team adapting to conditions and changing wherever the script is not working. Real did that last night, Chelsea did that over the weekend....Certainly tonight could be another tactical battle of wits and versatility. Bayern paid dearly for not being versatile they way they were undone was spectacular.
Angelica _ann
#1167 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:01:26 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
As Jose said, for each Team a different strategy...let's watch and see!

In Jose you trust, wish you well. My team was humuliated at home yesterday!
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TAZ
#1168 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:25:08 AM
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Kausha wrote:
Why the vitriol on our beloved Chelsea. Football like life requires dynamism. One great formula is no panacea for all situations. Pep was caught out again, his teams just like Arsenal,Mike Tyson and lately liverpool have one formula which is great for neutral purists but men when one is partisan you want to see the team adapting to conditions and changing wherever the script is not working. Real did that last night, Chelsea did that over the weekend....Certainly tonight could be another tactical battle of wits and versatility. Bayern paid dearly for not being versatile they way they were undone was spectacular.


Shame on you Shame on you

Stop comparing Chelsea to Real, Mourinho only knows one way of playing.....parking the bus! He knows nothing about free flowing football that's why he's been struggling against the smaller/weaker teams. As Brendan Rodgers said after the L'pool game, its not difficult for a coach to play defensive football and get results. Unlike other managers, Mourinho has been successful in that because he invests so much on defensive players.

Remember this headline when Chelsea played Arsenal at the Emirates

"Jose Mourinho has suggested it would be ‘easy’ to beat Arsenal 1-0 if it weren’t for the brand of top-quality football demanded by Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich."
KulaRaha
#1169 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:49:39 AM
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So now it seems Brendan Rogers is the guru of football strategy & tactics on Wazua. Hmmmmmmm, hope this doesn't burst your fragile bubbles:

Jose Mourinho claimed vindication last night for his tactics at Anfield as he revealed that the Liverpool manager, Brendan Rodgers, had called him on Tuesday to admit his approach was right. After Sunday’s game, Rodgers had scorned Mourinho’s approach as “easy to coach” but on Tuesday he congratulated the Chelsea manager, who said that Sunday’s disagreement had been forgotten, and that tactics that were not pragmatic were “stupid”.

“Brendan is a manager and is somebody I consider my friend,” Mourinho said at his press conference before Wednesday night's Champions League semi-final with Atletico Madrid. “Of course I know his words after the match, but I also know his words today, and today he told me congratulations for a great victory and a great performance. Because I consider him a friend and someone I like, I prefer to forget the words after the match and I keep today’s word. He’s an intelligent guy. He watched the match for sure on video and, now, I think he understood what happened.”
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
KulaRaha
#1170 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:53:58 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
As Jose said, for each Team a different strategy...let's watch and see!

In Jose you trust, wish you well. My team was humuliated at home yesterday!


Pole sana for your humiliation, I hope we conquer today!

Anyways, most Wazuan armchair strategists will tell you Pep played a "better" game, and Real were boring blah blah fishcake. Unfortunately, the results are usually the other way.

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nakujua
#1171 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:03:23 AM
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TAZ wrote:
Kausha wrote:
Why the vitriol on our beloved Chelsea. Football like life requires dynamism. One great formula is no panacea for all situations. Pep was caught out again, his teams just like Arsenal,Mike Tyson and lately liverpool have one formula which is great for neutral purists but men when one is partisan you want to see the team adapting to conditions and changing wherever the script is not working. Real did that last night, Chelsea did that over the weekend....Certainly tonight could be another tactical battle of wits and versatility. Bayern paid dearly for not being versatile they way they were undone was spectacular.


Shame on you Shame on you

Stop comparing Chelsea to Real, Mourinho only knows one way of playing.....parking the bus! He knows nothing about free flowing football that's why he's been struggling against the smaller/weaker teams. As Brendan Rodgers said after the L'pool game, its not difficult for a coach to play defensive football and get results. Unlike other managers, Mourinho has been successful in that because he invests so much on defensive players.

Remember this headline when Chelsea played Arsenal at the Emirates

"Jose Mourinho has suggested it would be ‘easy’ to beat Arsenal 1-0 if it weren’t for the brand of top-quality football demanded by Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich."

Chelsea and Real have the same approach - sit back and counter when a chance presents itself, the only difference being Ronaldo
TAZ
#1172 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:18:00 AM
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@Kularaha.....The Real Vs Bayern game was anything but boring...pace, direct play and precision prevailed on the night not defensive tactics! CR7 and Bale were fantastic, they exposed Bayern's frail defense. Dante and Boateng could not keep up with the pacey attackers. Good display by Real!

Ati Rodgers called to congratulate him on his tactics afterwards....that's typical Mourinho!

@Nakujua.....In terms of chance creation, Real Madrid lead the way in La Liga but defensively they are not really that good. In majority of their games they use only one defensive midfielder to protect the defenders. They don't set-up their squad to defend or sit back. Btw they might have a problem in the final with Alonso suspended.
McReggae
#1173 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:52:00 AM
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UCL this season has taught us that park the bus is better than tiki taka, counter attack better than possession football!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Angelica _ann
#1174 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:12:05 AM
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TAZ wrote:
@Kularaha.....The Real Vs Bayern game was anything but boring...pace, direct play and precision prevailed on the night not defensive tactics! CR7 and Bale were fantastic, they exposed Bayern's frail defense. Dante and Boateng could not keep up with the pacey attackers. Good display by Real!

Ati Rodgers called to congratulate him on his tactics afterwards....that's typical Mourinho!

@Nakujua.....In terms of chance creation, Real Madrid lead the way in La Liga but defensively they are not really that good. In majority of their games they use only one defensive midfielder to protect the defenders. They don't set-up their squad to defend or sit back. Btw they might have a problem in the final with Alonso suspended.


@Taz, what do you realy want in a game, goals ama. For sure i have never seen Bayern so clueless mpaka they were resorting to slaps.

Real played better than Bayern by far. Bales pass was sublime! what else do you want.
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bkismat
#1175 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:14:58 AM
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In two semi finals in in two consecutive seasons the tiki taka has been cruelly exposed(7-0,5-0). Pep must look for a plan B.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
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kaka2za
#1176 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:24:29 AM
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Bayern will raid Arsenal and Dortmund for defensive reinforcements viz Koscielny and Mats Humells.
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KulaRaha
#1177 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:42:18 AM
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TAZ wrote:
@Kularaha.....The Real Vs Bayern game was anything but boring...pace, direct play and precision prevailed on the night not defensive tactics! CR7 and Bale were fantastic, they exposed Bayern's frail defense. Dante and Boateng could not keep up with the pacey attackers. Good display by Real!

Ati Rodgers called to congratulate him on his tactics afterwards....that's typical Mourinho!

@Nakujua.....In terms of chance creation, Real Madrid lead the way in La Liga but defensively they are not really that good. In majority of their games they use only one defensive midfielder to protect the defenders. They don't set-up their squad to defend or sit back. Btw they might have a problem in the final with Alonso suspended.


So now you know who calls Mourinho and who doesn't? Typical Arsenal supporter...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Anyways, you keep chasing the so called "beautiful" game while others keep winning trophies.
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kaka2za
#1178 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:53:50 AM
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Has Chelsea won anything yet? Hope I haven't had a Rip Van Winkle moment!
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TAZ
#1179 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:17:53 PM
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@Angelica _ann.....I think you probably misunderstood me, i really enjoyed last night's game....Real were fantastic from the back to the front. What i'm disputing is an attempt by some Chelsea fans to compare Real's tactics to Mourinho's. On one hand you have a team which sits back for almost 90 minutes waiting to capitalize on one single mistake and on the other you have a team with flair that defends and attacks well throughout the match. I actually think Real could have scored more given the chances the created.

"In the late stages of leagues and cup competitions it's about winning or getting through the tie and he's (Mourinho) as good as anyone at doing that, even if the style of football might not be everyone's cup of tea. However, I laugh when I hear people talk about "tactical genius" because that's absolute tosh. I agree with Brendan Rodgers when he says that the tactics Mourinho has employed in the last two matches are the simplest way to play. It's not hard to set up a back four that doesn't go anywhere and a midfield in front of them not going anywhere and look to catch your opponents on the break or from a set-piece - but where Mourinho deserves all the credit in the world is the fact that he has top, top players buying into that approach." Graeme Souness - Good article on Mou's tactics!

http://www1.skysports.co...more-of-the-same-tactics
nakujua
#1180 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:36:53 PM
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TAZ wrote:
@Kularaha.....The Real Vs Bayern game was anything but boring...pace, direct play and precision prevailed on the night not defensive tactics! CR7 and Bale were fantastic, they exposed Bayern's frail defense. Dante and Boateng could not keep up with the pacey attackers. Good display by Real!

Ati Rodgers called to congratulate him on his tactics afterwards....that's typical Mourinho!

@Nakujua.....In terms of chance creation, Real Madrid lead the way in La Liga but defensively they are not really that good. In majority of their games they use only one defensive midfielder to protect the defenders. They don't set-up their squad to defend or sit back. Btw they might have a problem in the final with Alonso suspended.

in the games against bayern and barca they did just that, modric has been used more often to protect the defenders and disrupt the game for the opponents not much in attack the same for alonso.

Chelsea are the third highest scoring team in epl, so they have done their attacking bit considering they do not have a goal scoring machine aka ronaldo - its just that mr. Mourinho attracts extremes as concerning his antics.
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