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On The Heels Of Terror (2)
Uram
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:35:46 PM
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Kenya Police Feature running on main tv channels......Man these Alshabab guys can brainwash young,poor,innocent men
Shak
#2 Posted : Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:52:19 PM
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The enemy lives among us
sparkly
#3 Posted : Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:07:55 PM
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My 2 cents before the thread turns into preaching/ counter preaching. The govt has gone overt, seeking tacit approval in the court of public opinion. Hii kitu sasa itakuwa kama ile ya mungiki.
Life is short. Live passionately.
harrydre
#4 Posted : Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:42:33 PM
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sparkly wrote:
My 2 cents before the thread turns into preaching/ counter preaching. The govt has gone overt, seeking tacit approval in the court of public opinion. Hii kitu sasa itakuwa kama ile ya mungiki.


mimi nasema kazi iendelee
i.am.back!!!!
Jangwa la Jangili
#5 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 10:50:49 AM
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the desperate thirst for 72 virgins. orgies in heaven. si hiyo ni poa sana. does allah enjoy the sight and take selfies with the participants after the jotis? lakini hii ni kawaida. sex is underlying driver of 90% of problems between men in this world.
Katika Jangwa la Jangili ndipo Pwagu hupata Pwaguzi.
AlphDoti
#6 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 11:49:18 AM
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Jangwa la Jangili wrote:
the desperate thirst for 72 virgins. orgies in heaven. si hiyo ni poa sana. does allah enjoy the sight and take selfies with the participants after the jotis? lakini hii ni kawaida. sex is underlying driver of 90% of problems between men in this world.

There they go again.

@jangili you must have been missing in the show for a while now. Now you come back and you are spreading a misconception. But I'll continue to tell truth. It will hurt your heart but that is because you hate truth. Your heart feels good when you mock and spread a lie.

SO AGAIN FOR THOSE WHO ARE GENUINELY WILLING TO BE CORRECTED.

I'm clarifying this issue about 72 virgins, which I've clarified this before!

There is nothing like this in Islam. The juicy stories the media gives you is so enticing and I know you can't resist. This story of 72 virgins is one of the biggest propaganda in the world that has been invented. This has been amplified in the western countries many times that nowadays, many people accept it as fact and truth. No wonder even Wazuans think the same. The media wants people to believe that this is a Muslim's reward for suicide.

The Quran and valid authentic Hadiths are very clear about anyone who commits suicide. Islam has condemned suicide making as grave sin. Don't you see it unthinkable for its followers to regard sex as a reward if they were to take their lives?

Today, the myth of the 72 virgins remains potent ammunition for those who wish to see their point of view prevail against Islam. Entities like the media have twisted this alleged saying to suit their fancies and smear Islam with ridicule and humiliation.

HUMBLE REQUEST: LET US DISCUSS THIS DOCUMENTARY IN OBJECTIVE MANNER AND KEEP MOCKERY OUT OF IT. OTHERWISE, ADMIN WILL CLOSE THE THREAD.
tassia
#7 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 11:57:04 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Jangwa la Jangili wrote:
the desperate thirst for 72 virgins. orgies in heaven. si hiyo ni poa sana. does allah enjoy the sight and take selfies with the participants after the jotis? lakini hii ni kawaida. sex is underlying driver of 90% of problems between men in this world.

There they go again.

@jangili you must have been missing in the show for a while now. Now you come back and you are spreading a misconception. But I'll continue to tell truth. It will hurt your heart but that is because you hate truth. Your heart feels good when you mock and spread a lie.

SO AGAIN FOR THOSE WHO ARE GENUINELY WILLING TO BE CORRECTED.

I'm clarifying this issue about 72 virgins, which I've clarified this before!

There is nothing like this in Islam. The juicy stories the media gives you is so enticing and I know you can't resist. This story of 72 virgins is one of the biggest propaganda in the world that has been invented. This has been amplified in the western countries many times that nowadays, many people accept it as fact and truth. No wonder even Wazuans think the same. The media wants people to believe that this is a Muslim's reward for suicide.

The Quran and valid authentic Hadiths are very clear about anyone who commits suicide. Islam has condemned suicide making as grave sin. Don't you see it unthinkable for its followers to regard sex as a reward if they were to take their lives?

Today, the myth of the 72 virgins remains potent ammunition for those who wish to see their point of view prevail against Islam. Entities like the media have twisted this alleged saying to suit their fancies and smear Islam with ridicule and humiliation.

HUMBLE REQUEST: LET US DISCUSS THIS DOCUMENTARY IN OBJECTIVE MANNER AND KEEP MOCKERY OUT OF IT. OTHERWISE, ADMIN WILL CLOSE THE THREAD.


Are your sentiments above about defending terrorists or Islam. Yes, the documentary said that young guys are promised the 72 virgins to entice them to fight. The documentary never stated that this is the position of Islam. It is the position of those who who recruit them. I guess you should be condemning those who promise such things not saying that it is propaganda.
AlphDoti
#8 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 12:25:23 PM
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tassia wrote:
Are your sentiments above about defending terrorists or Islam. Yes, the documentary said that young guys are promised the 72 virgins to entice them to fight. The documentary never stated that this is the position of Islam. It is the position of those who who recruit them. I guess you should be condemning those who promise such things not saying that it is propaganda.

Thank you @tassia. I condemn this documentary "On The Heels Of Terror". It's very unfortunate to see a government approving airing of such a documentary, which demonizes whole Muslim community as killers of innocent people, and attempts to prove that the Quran and the Hadith advocates killing of non-Muslims!!!

This is inciting further animosity and hatred. I condemn those who pose and take advantage of ignorant youth by cheating them into sinful and criminal acts.

So please @jangili and @tassia, you being part of the elite people, let us save our country as a matter of urgency. Save the humanity. Where we are headed is not good.

I will continue saying police should be thorough in doing investigation. I want to see a peaceful country, just like the way you want.
Jangwa la Jangili
#9 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 12:55:38 PM
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wacha hasira bratha. ni sheikh alikuwa akisema kwa tv jana. alisema akiwa na morale mingi sana ("sabini na mbili! sabini na mbili! sabini na mbiiiiilliiiiii!") hiyo ni njaaaaaa rafiki. hehehe. anyway matamchi yangu si kwa ubaya. it was with a light touch.


AlphDoti wrote:
Jangwa la Jangili wrote:
the desperate thirst for 72 virgins. orgies in heaven. si hiyo ni poa sana. does allah enjoy the sight and take selfies with the participants after the jotis? lakini hii ni kawaida. sex is underlying driver of 90% of problems between men in this world.

There they go again.

@jangili you must have been missing in the show for a while now. Now you come back and you are spreading a misconception. But I'll continue to tell truth. It will hurt your heart but that is because you hate truth. Your heart feels good when you mock and spread a lie.

SO AGAIN FOR THOSE WHO ARE GENUINELY WILLING TO BE CORRECTED.

I'm clarifying this issue about 72 virgins, which I've clarified this before!

There is nothing like this in Islam. The juicy stories the media gives you is so enticing and I know you can't resist. This story of 72 virgins is one of the biggest propaganda in the world that has been invented. This has been amplified in the western countries many times that nowadays, many people accept it as fact and truth. No wonder even Wazuans think the same. The media wants people to believe that this is a Muslim's reward for suicide.

The Quran and valid authentic Hadiths are very clear about anyone who commits suicide. Islam has condemned suicide making as grave sin. Don't you see it unthinkable for its followers to regard sex as a reward if they were to take their lives?

Today, the myth of the 72 virgins remains potent ammunition for those who wish to see their point of view prevail against Islam. Entities like the media have twisted this alleged saying to suit their fancies and smear Islam with ridicule and humiliation.

HUMBLE REQUEST: LET US DISCUSS THIS DOCUMENTARY IN OBJECTIVE MANNER AND KEEP MOCKERY OUT OF IT. OTHERWISE, ADMIN WILL CLOSE THE THREAD.

Katika Jangwa la Jangili ndipo Pwagu hupata Pwaguzi.
rryyzz
#10 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 12:58:27 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tassia wrote:
Are your sentiments above about defending terrorists or Islam. Yes, the documentary said that young guys are promised the 72 virgins to entice them to fight. The documentary never stated that this is the position of Islam. It is the position of those who who recruit them. I guess you should be condemning those who promise such things not saying that it is propaganda.

Thank you @tassia. I condemn this documentary "On The Heels Of Terror". It's very unfortunate to see a government approving airing of such a documentary, which demonizes whole Muslim community as killers of innocent people, and attempts to prove that the Quran and the Hadith advocates killing of non-Muslims!!!

This is inciting further animosity and hatred. I condemn those who pose and take advantage of ignorant youth by cheating them into sinful and criminal acts.

So please @jangili and @tassia, you being part of the elite people, let us save our country as a matter of urgency. Save the humanity. Where we are headed is not good.

I will continue saying police should be thorough in doing investigation. I want to see a peaceful country, just like the way you want.

@Alphdoti, i'm just curious, where did the idea of 72 virgins come from? Is there a mention of them anywhere in the koran?
Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around.... Leo Buscaglia
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