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Russia Going to War with US over Ukraine?
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#371 Posted : Tuesday, April 01, 2014 2:29:17 AM
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#372 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 11:15:37 PM
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#373 Posted : Sunday, April 06, 2014 6:52:32 PM
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Some interesting perspective on this Russia thing here http://vineyardsaker.blo...-let-us-embrace.html?m=1
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#374 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:50:27 AM
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Putin: Escalating conflict puts Ukraine on 'brink of civil war'

Russian forces spotted on ground in eastern Ukraine: Bloomberg
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#375 Posted : Friday, April 18, 2014 11:30:11 AM
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Obama warns Russia of Consequences

Obama: "We have a superior military", "We want to give diplomacy a chance", "Putin is acting from a position of weakness not strength", "We do not need a war" ?????

Incidentally Putin has been buzzing his jets over US warships
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#376 Posted : Friday, April 18, 2014 2:43:11 PM
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Much Know wrote:
Obama warns Russia of Consequences

Obama: "We have a superior military", "We want to give diplomacy a chance", "Putin is acting from a position of weakness not strength", "We do not need a war" ?????

Incidentally Putin has been buzzing his jets over US warships


They've broken up Ukraine then they blame it on Russia? SMH
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#377 Posted : Friday, April 18, 2014 2:57:35 PM
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#378 Posted : Friday, April 18, 2014 3:20:13 PM
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Much Know wrote:
Obama warns Russia of Consequences

Obama: "We have a superior military", "We want to give diplomacy a chance", "Putin is acting from a position of weakness not strength", "We do not need a war" ?????

Incidentally Putin has been buzzing his jets over US warships



What I heard in that interview is Obama telling Ukraine, "You are on your own." Sample this:
Russia has deep historical ties with Ukraine
Ukraine is not a NATO ally
Nobody wants war
There is not going to be a military conflict over this

This Obama guy talks too much. If Putin hears this and am sure he most definitely has, he is going to escalate things in Ukraine. He has been given the green light......... I think he already knew this a long time ago. Ukrainians wako taabani.
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#379 Posted : Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:04:08 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Much Know wrote:
Obama warns Russia of Consequences

Obama: "We have a superior military", "We want to give diplomacy a chance", "Putin is acting from a position of weakness not strength", "We do not need a war" ?????

Incidentally Putin has been buzzing his jets over US warships



What I heard in that interview is Obama telling Ukraine, "You are on your own." Sample this:
Russia has deep historical ties with Ukraine
Ukraine is not a NATO ally
Nobody wants war
There is not going to be a military conflict over this

This Obama guy talks too much. If Putin hears this and am sure he most definitely has, he is going to escalate things in Ukraine. He has been given the green light......... I think he already knew this a long time ago. Ukrainians wako taabani.


One thing I have noticed about obama is that he is good at saying something while he means the opposite.Follow obamacare and see how much amedanganya watu with that cash grab.Since US has been outwitted in all ways available by China and Russia other than Militarily,the hegemony are pushing for a war very desperately.Syria is the main focus for now and if you didnt know,they already mobilized to strike Syria and the only impendiment is Putin.Canada and Turkey are working their ass out to get there.US has been supplying rebels with lethal weapons.They tried to fake another chemical attack but to no avail.The need to go to war is highest now more than ever
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#380 Posted : Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:53:59 PM
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Meanwhile, Russia forgives 90% of the debt owed by North Korea:

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/494901.html

http://www.gmanetwork.co...t-of-north-korea-s-debt

http://www.businessinsid...orth-korean-debt-2012-9

http://www.theguardian.c...es-off-north-korea-debt

Seems as Europe seeks to rely less on Russian gas, Russia itself is diversifying its customers too:

Quote:
Vorontsov said: "The development of the Asia-Pacific region is in our economic interests. If before, we talked about our potential to direct our oil and gas there when we needed to strengthen our negotiating position with the Europeans, now there are practical deals.

"Russia's turn to east Asia, especially in the spheres of infrastructure and energy, means the importance of the Korean peninsula will only grow."

He said the debt deal would pave the way for Russian plans to build a gas pipeline to South Korea via the north, which Kim Jong-il preliminarily signed on to during his meeting with Medvedev last summer.
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