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On the heels of terror...
tycho
#61 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 3:29:37 AM
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guru267 wrote:
tycho wrote:
guru267 wrote:
harrydre wrote:
What is common among the world leading terror groups Al Qaeda, Taliban, Al shabaab & Boko haram??? fundahh!!!


Most of these Mujahideen are not rightly guided by Allah (swt)... Many of the atrocities they commit are not in line with Islamic Sharia!

The Qur'an does not allow suicide!

The Qur'an does not allow killing/beheading of captives!

The Qur'an does not allow ransom taking!

The Qur'an does not allow jihad for the purpose of converting others!

etc etc

So again I say.. Terror is not Islamic!


Was raiding Quraysh caravans part of Islamic culture or 'Arabic' culture?


@tycho thats what I said... Please get to know the whole story..

Before the caravan attack, the Quraish kicked Muhammad (saw) out of Mecca just for introducing Islam.. Just like Jesus (as) said he was rejected in his own home Sad

The Quraish were the ones who waged war on the prophet (saw) not the other way around!


Indeed. Is there a group of Mujahideen which doesn't appeal to the precedence set by Mohammed, and the rationality outlined above?

Boko Haram? Taliban? Al Shabaab? Al Qaeda? . . .
guru267
#62 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 3:46:01 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
I would like to educate myself on this Muhammad fella. Are there documentaries I can watch?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0qqxRRBdAA


Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
harrydre
#63 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:22:15 AM
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look at this crap! and when such terrorists are shot on sight, some sympathizers are up in arms!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/...4abudction930aVODtopLink
i.am.back!!!!
Mukiri
#64 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:14:51 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
I would like to educate myself on this Muhammad fella. Are there documentaries I can watch?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0qqxRRBdAA



Let me start with the BBC documentary 'The life of the last prophet'

I'm curious of this guy who was initially easy to pick out from the crowd because he was a 'good guy', who went on to terrorize people, ordering torture and killings and stealing from people(I read this from a guy who'd posted here). Who married a 'sugar mummy' and later an under-age girl.

Proverbs 19:21
Kaka Sunguch
#65 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:29:55 AM
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Let me sit back and watch this tennis match from the fence, won't end soon.
alma
#66 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:47:52 AM
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I may be against terrorism but I'm never going to be for any Gov't produced propaganda documentaries.

This is propaganda 100%. There shall be only one story told and that is by the same IG who said that blankets were burning and light bulbs were causing bombs.

I'm sorry.

Only people who are brainwashed can believe anything a Kenyan policeman has to say. Even worse, you sit down for an hour and listen to them telling you about how fantastic they are.

mmmmmhhh.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Muriel
#67 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:48:14 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
@harrydre let me add another example.


If you really want to test drive a car, put behind the steering wheel an expert driver
The best exemplary Muslims you can find is prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Read his seera (life history), you'll find his the best exemplary Muslims and the best example of human being that has lived. That is the reason I say that understand the religion by looking at the scriptures. And when you read the scriptures, the authentic sources, the Quran and sahih Hadiths you will really appreciate Islam.



Mohammed and Aisha ,,,,,,,,

Mohammed and Zeinab ,,,,,,,,

But we are talking about police here in this thread. Whatever the police is doing I do not have an opinion for or against.
AlphDoti
#68 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:50:52 AM
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alma wrote:
I may be against terrorism but I'm never going to be for any Gov't produced propaganda documentaries.

This is propaganda 100%. There shall be only one story told and that is by the same IG who said that blankets were burning and light bulbs were causing bombs.

I'm sorry.

Only people who are brainwashed can believe anything a Kenyan policeman has to say. Even worse, you sit down for an hour and listen to them telling you about how fantastic they are.

mmmmmhhh.

Kudos @alma. My thinking exactly. I'm not sure how many 'intelligent' Kenyans can smart enough to see that. I'll say quite a small number, given that even in an elite group like Wazua cannot see Pray d'oh!
AlphDoti
#69 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:09:14 AM
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Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@harrydre let me add another example.

If you really want to test drive a car, put behind the steering wheel an expert driver
The best exemplary Muslims you can find is prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Read his seera (life history), you'll find his the best exemplary Muslims and the best example of human being that has lived. That is the reason I say that understand the religion by looking at the scriptures. And when you read the scriptures, the authentic sources, the Quran and sahih Hadiths you will really appreciate Islam.

Mohammed and Aisha ,,,,,,,,

Mohammed and Zeinab ,,,,,,,,

But we are talking about police here in this thread. Whatever the police is doing I do not have an opinion for or against.

I'm glad you get the point. In the same way we could make an objective investigation into the life and message of Jesus Christ (a.s). And that would allow us to know if we want to call ourselves Christians.

So to be fair and objective, media as sources of information about Islam, or any other faith, would not be an acceptable source of judging anything or anyone.

That's why so many people convinced, and so many people standing in judgement about subject that they have far no information if any, and far few actual facts about.

The strangest thing is that, Islam is system of life, a global faith, that one could know very easily by going to the sources. And there are two sources:
- One is the scriptural source, which is the Quran.
- The other is human source, which is life of prophet pbuh.
tycho
#70 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:15:02 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@harrydre let me add another example.

If you really want to test drive a car, put behind the steering wheel an expert driver
The best exemplary Muslims you can find is prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Read his seera (life history), you'll find his the best exemplary Muslims and the best example of human being that has lived. That is the reason I say that understand the religion by looking at the scriptures. And when you read the scriptures, the authentic sources, the Quran and sahih Hadiths you will really appreciate Islam.

Mohammed and Aisha ,,,,,,,,

Mohammed and Zeinab ,,,,,,,,

But we are talking about police here in this thread. Whatever the police is doing I do not have an opinion for or against.

I'm glad you get the point. In the same way we could make an objective investigation into the life and message of Jesus Christ (a.s). And that would allow us to know if we want to call ourselves Christians.

So to be fair and objective, media as sources of information about Islam, or any other faith, would not be an acceptable source of judging anything or anyone.

That's why so many people convinced, and so many people standing in judgement about subject that they have far no information if any, and far few actual facts about.

The strangest thing is that, Islam is system of life, a global faith, that one could know very easily by going to the sources. And there are two sources:
- One is the scriptural source, which is the Quran.
- The other is human source, which is life of prophet pbuh.


What makes you think the Quran, the Bible, or any other Scriptures don't involve 'propaganda'?
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