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On the heels of terror...
guru267
#31 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:43:29 AM
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Joined: 1/21/2010
Posts: 6,675
Location: Nairobi
newfarer wrote:
guru267 wrote:
newfarer wrote:
guru267 wrote:
This government is soooo full of lies...

Look at this story.
http://www.nation.co.ke/...6/-/ayrdog/-/index.html

So is this a ghost?? Sad
http://harar24.com/?p=12799


mr guru267 kimaiyo said he is looking for shebab sympathisers .he will catch up with you.
sooner than latter, you will get your virgins.


I dare you to prove that I'm a Shabaab sympathizer if you can
.you even know the amount you financed for the bribe


And what does that prove?? Do i sense some clutching at straws here smile
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
AlphDoti
#32 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:12:55 AM
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Location: Kenya
It's quite unfortunate to see a government approving airing of such a documentary, which demonizes whole Muslim community as killers of innocent people, and attempts to prove that the Quran and the Hadith advocates killing of non-Muslims!!!

This is inciting further animosity and hatred towards Islam and Muslims in the country!!!

Please elite people of Wazua, as a matter of urgency safe our country. Safe the humanity. Where we are headed is not good.
ecstacy
#33 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:20:59 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2008
Posts: 4,449
guru267 wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I love Kenyan cops..

The Somalis in a nearby estate here in South C paid the cops 300k to spare their estate last night! Shame on you Liar Shame on you

Fighting terror my a**!

At this rate the next attack is imminent.. Sad


What have you done with such information? Are you waiting for your fellow Kenyan to get blown up in the "next attack" which at this "rate..is imminent"? You're blaming cops and you are also part of the problem. Have you really done your best with such information?


@ecstacy you must have the assumption that I support this so called "swoop"

And they actually think they will achieve anything after this spectacle!


The only assumption I have held is that to your claim that it is only a few bad apples in the Muslim basket. I think it is more than a few but still the minority. However, your statements come across as sympathetic or rationalisation of the Jihadists.
guru267
#34 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:35:07 AM
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Location: Nairobi
ecstacy wrote:
However, your statements come across as sympathetic or rationalisation of the Jihadists.


Just like @McReggae said

Its literally impossible for me to criticise extra judicial killings and religious profiling or call for dialogue without being labelled a jihadist sympathizer! Sad
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mkenyan
#35 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:42:07 AM
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Joined: 4/1/2009
Posts: 1,885
ecstacy wrote:
guru267 wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I love Kenyan cops..

The Somalis in a nearby estate here in South C paid the cops 300k to spare their estate last night! Shame on you Liar Shame on you

Fighting terror my a**!

At this rate the next attack is imminent.. Sad


What have you done with such information? Are you waiting for your fellow Kenyan to get blown up in the "next attack" which at this "rate..is imminent"? You're blaming cops and you are also part of the problem. Have you really done your best with such information?


@ecstacy you must have the assumption that I support this so called "swoop"

And they actually think they will achieve anything after this spectacle!


The only assumption I have held is that to your claim that it is only a few bad apples in the Muslim basket. I think it is more than a few but still the minority. However, your statements come across as sympathetic or rationalisation of the Jihadists.

because somehow this has been made into a muslim versus christian thing. unfortunately mostly in wazua and i see it spreading to the whole country. when that happens it would not be surprising to see muslims taking it as a fight against them and christians also taking the same position. it is a religion thing. ultimately in all these we all forget that it should have been a fight against terrorists. for example guru has been on record here being against terrorist. at the same time she has rightfully defended islam and condemned the illegal profiling and treatment of somalis (and stereotyping of muslims) and in so doing some people are quick to label her a sympathiser etc.
AlphDoti
#36 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:43:16 AM
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Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
guru267 wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
However, your statements come across as sympathetic or rationalisation of the Jihadists.

Just like @McReggae said

Its literally impossible for me to criticise extra judicial killings and religious profiling or call for dialogue without being labelled a jihadist sympathizer! Sad

True, @Mc spoke like ten men today. He summarized the behavior of majority of the people, especially Wazuans. There is no objectivity at all. When people call each all sorts of names here, nobody condemns that, when somebody condemn extra-judicial killings, the one is labelled sympathizer. When "jubiree" does something wrong, some quarters cannot see it. When baba makes even one comment, everybody is there saying sorts of dirty words.
AlphDoti
#37 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:00:29 AM
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mkenyan wrote:
...ultimately in all these we all forget that it should have been a fight against terrorists. for example guru has been on record here being against terrorist. at the same time she has rightfully defended islam and condemned the illegal profiling and treatment of somalis (and stereotyping of muslims) and in so doing some people are quick to label her a sympathiser etc.

Exactly, and some people here are reallly amusing. They think every Muslim is a Somali. No! I'm not Somali, and there are many other Muslims who are not Somalis. Even the Kenyan Somalis are legitimate Kenyans. Their forefathers were born in Kenya, just like some of us; the Kyuks, the Kales, the Luyhia, the Kambas, the Maasais, the Mijikenda, etc.

Just to teach those who may not know; The Somalis and Boranas and all other Cushites land comes upto next to Meru, just a few Kilometers from Mt. Kenya. You know Isiolo. So please, people let us be objective.

I have always said a criminal is a criminal it does not matter the camp or religion or tribe. Stop profiling people. There is no end to such oppression. It will only create a reaction!
ecstacy
#38 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:02:15 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2008
Posts: 4,449
mkenyan wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
guru267 wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I love Kenyan cops..

The Somalis in a nearby estate here in South C paid the cops 300k to spare their estate last night! Shame on you Liar Shame on you

Fighting terror my a**!

At this rate the next attack is imminent.. Sad


What have you done with such information? Are you waiting for your fellow Kenyan to get blown up in the "next attack" which at this "rate..is imminent"? You're blaming cops and you are also part of the problem. Have you really done your best with such information?


@ecstacy you must have the assumption that I support this so called "swoop"

And they actually think they will achieve anything after this spectacle!


The only assumption I have held is that to your claim that it is only a few bad apples in the Muslim basket. I think it is more than a few but still the minority. However, your statements come across as sympathetic or rationalisation of the Jihadists.

because somehow this has been made into a muslim versus christian thing. unfortunately mostly in wazua and i see it spreading to the whole country. when that happens it would not be surprising to see muslims taking it as a fight against them and christians also taking the same position. it is a religion thing. ultimately in all these we all forget that it should have been a fight against terrorists. for example guru has been on record here being against terrorist. at the same time she has rightfully defended islam and condemned the illegal profiling and treatment of somalis (and stereotyping of muslims) and in so doing some people are quick to label her a sympathiser etc.


Madam guru, I like the fact you are the contrarian view on this particular issue.

The only issue I have with your views is that your displeasure, perceived or otherwise, at the way the GoK is handling the security issue is not similarly counter balanced with what should be equal disgust at crimes carried out in the name of Islam.
ecstacy
#39 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:05:22 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2008
Posts: 4,449
guru267 wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
However, your statements come across as sympathetic or rationalisation of the Jihadists.


Just like @McReggae said

Its literally impossible for me to criticise extra judicial killings and religious profiling or call for dialogue without being labelled a jihadist sympathizer! Sad


You now lowering the bar. You are perfect and cannot be criticized.
harrydre
#40 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:06:50 PM
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Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
AlphDoti wrote:
It's quite unfortunate to see a government approving airing of such a documentary, which demonizes whole Muslim community as killers of innocent people, and attempts to prove that the Quran and the Hadith advocates killing of non-Muslims!!!

This is inciting further animosity and hatred towards Islam and Muslims in the country!!!

Please elite people of Wazua, as a matter of urgency safe our country. Safe the humanity. Where we are headed is not good.


Stop burying the head in the sand. let's call a spade a spade. Going by history, we have prove to demonstrate a majority of terrorists are muslims. Just as they say most thugs are kiuks. So it's up to you the muslims of goodwill to turn this around else ship out.

look at somalia which is 99% muslim. what's the excuse for that mess? and why do we have so much violence in muslim nations? human rights abuses etc?
i.am.back!!!!
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