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Ash Ock wrote:KQ pilots seem to have a problem with landing. The hardest landings I've experienced have all been on KQ where the pilots practically plant the airplane on the runway. The hardest so far being on 29 March 2014 while landing in Amsterdam (5Y-KYZ), where a couple of oxygen masks fell down.
Youtube has a few videos of KQ "skills", worth a few laughs. Note; even though the landings are fairly hard, they are very safe and within the specifications of the aircraft (but not me). Weka link, most of the videos iv watched on KQ landing techniques have been rather good, infact they've been commended by peers. The airport in dar was closed and all planes diverted to zanzibar and kilimanjaro ...the runway was too wet "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Ash Ock wrote:KQ pilots seem to have a problem with landing. The hardest landings I've experienced have all been on KQ where the pilots practically plant the airplane on the runway. The hardest so far being on 29 March 2014 while landing in Amsterdam (5Y-KYZ), where a couple of oxygen masks fell down.
Youtube has a few videos of KQ "skills", worth a few laughs. Note; even though the landings are fairly hard, they are very safe and within the specifications of the aircraft (but not me). I've always thought that masks automatically deploy when there is a cabin pressure change. When landing, the plane is at normal pressure (unless landing in that South American country which I cant recall) and there's no chance of the masks dropping. Unavuta miguu yetu? That said, the hardest KQ landing I know of was 5Y-KQD which was put out of service after a landing in Addis.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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much, much later... Quote:NAIROBI, April 11, 2014 – Kenya Airways’, wishes to announce that one of its aircraft an Embraer 190, was this afternoon involved in a runway excursion incident while landing at the Julius Nyerere Airport in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.
In a statement issued by Kenya Airways CEO Titus Naikuni, the airline says the incident that occurred at about 1434hrs local time and involved an aircraft registration 5YFFC, performing flight KQ482 and carrying 49 passengers and six crew. The aircraft veered off the runway but had no fatalities. However, 3 injuries were reported, of which 2 were minor.
"All passengers and crew were evacuated safely. We are cooperating fully with government investigative agencies in Tanzania and Kenya on this matter to establish the cause of the incident," said Naikuni.
Naikuni further added that normal flight services by the airline in and out of Julius Nyerere International Airport have since resumed.
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Titus Naikuni
Group Managing Director
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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and much more later.... Quote:NAIROBI, April 11, 2014 – Further to our initial statement on the above, we can now confirm that the total number of passengers who suffered injuries during the evacuation and had been transferred to hospital for further examination stands at seven.
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Titus Naikuni
Group Managing Director Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2010 Posts: 495 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Weka link, most of the videos iv watched on KQ landing techniques have been rather good, infact they've been commended by peers.
The airport in dar was closed and all planes diverted to zanzibar and kilimanjaro ...the runway was too wet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqt6S0COlYk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odkAoSfiMiU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrHseuDHcOU
I'm not saying the landing were bad, just that they were hard. And I'm not writing in malice. This is my personal experience. Sent from my Black Nokia 3310
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2010 Posts: 495 Location: Nairobi
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@murchr, But I've never experienced a landing that did this, no matter the weather:  Sent from my Black Nokia 3310
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My hardest landing was on BA flight to London Gatwick airport.Passenger hats came off our heads......but no injuries,though.
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Ash Ock wrote:KQ pilots seem to have a problem with landing. The hardest landings I've experienced have all been on KQ where the pilots practically plant the airplane on the runway. The hardest so far being on 29 March 2014 while landing in Amsterdam (5Y-KYZ), where a couple of oxygen masks fell down.
Youtube has a few videos of KQ "skills", worth a few laughs. Note; even though the landings are fairly hard, they are very safe and within the specifications of the aircraft (but not me). Ouch! And Kenyan pilots insist they are as skilled as the best in the world. Often it's a good idea to let others come in and teach us how to improve our skills or technique. You may be 'qualified' on paper but there's skill, talent and experience that one needs to acquire. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ash Ock wrote:KQ pilots seem to have a problem with landing. The hardest landings I've experienced have all been on KQ where the pilots practically plant the airplane on the runway. The hardest so far being on 29 March 2014 while landing in Amsterdam (5Y-KYZ), where a couple of oxygen masks fell down.
Youtube has a few videos of KQ "skills", worth a few laughs. Note; even though the landings are fairly hard, they are very safe and within the specifications of the aircraft (but not me). Ouch! And Kenyan pilots insist they are as skilled as the best in the world. Often it's a good idea to let others come in and teach us how to improve our skills or technique. You may be 'qualified' on paper but there's skill, talent and experience that one needs to acquire. The worst i ever got was a turbulence aboard delta over the carribean islands, the pilots told us later that the plane lost 30 metres at once during the turbulence, the worst bit they were serving drinks you can imagine the chaos, then all over a sudden alot of guys started reading bibles and other materials Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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@Ash Ock, the oxygen masks fell because of the cabin pressure nothing to do with landing. You haven't heard of bizarre landings, recently a pilot landed in the wrong airport in NA and he only realized when the runway fell short. And guess what, he couldn't take off...yes because the runway was not enough. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2010 Posts: 495 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:@Ash Ock, the oxygen masks fell because of the cabin pressure nothing to do with landing. You haven't heard of bizarre landings, recently a pilot landed in the wrong airport in NA and he only realized when the runway fell short. And guess what, he couldn't take off...yes because the runway was not enough. Oxygen masks are triggered to automatically fall when the cabin pressure rises (key word here) above 14'000ft. Schipol is at sealevel. Only a couple dropped, not all of them. In anycase, they dropped after we were slammed onto the runway. Oh, and for your information, Captain Muiruri, he of the famous Greece emergency landing (777 5Y-KQS), was in command. Whether he was the pilot flying during the landing is something I don't know. There were 3 in the cockpit, with one being a trainee (not saying s/he dumped us on the runway as I simply don't know). By any chance, were you the one flying that day? If so, sincere congratulations on a nice smooth approach. If you're talking of the Ethiopian 767 which landed by mistake at Arusha last December, they got the plane off. Nice video. Sent from my Black Nokia 3310
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murchr wrote:@Ash Ock, the oxygen masks fell because of the cabin pressure nothing to do with landing. You haven't heard of bizarre landings, recently a pilot landed in the wrong airport in NA and he only realized when the runway fell short. And guess what, he couldn't take off...yes because the runway was not enough. Where the heck is NA? Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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dunkang wrote:murchr wrote:@Ash Ock, the oxygen masks fell because of the cabin pressure nothing to do with landing. You haven't heard of bizarre landings, recently a pilot landed in the wrong airport in NA and he only realized when the runway fell short. And guess what, he couldn't take off...yes because the runway was not enough. Where the heck is NA? Ash Ock wrote:By any chance, were you the one flying that day? If so, sincere congratulations on a nice smooth approach.
If you're talking of the Ethiopian 767 which landed by mistake at Arusha last December, they got the plane off. Nice video. No when i fly am the passenger, but i like matters aviation. Poleni sana for the experience though i know its not funny at all. There've been worse mishaps remember the Egypt Air plane that led to the close down of JKIA? Nice video @dunkang NA is North America the story is here. http://www.cnn.com/2014/...st-plane-wrong-airport/ The new B777-300 5Y-KYZ on taxi test.  I watched an interview where Naikuni said that the numbers on the NBO-LON route have greatly improved but they've suspended flying to Egypt for the time being. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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@Murchr, how can that happen in North America? Is aviation and security technology over-hyped? Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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freiks wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ash Ock wrote:KQ pilots seem to have a problem with landing. The hardest landings I've experienced have all been on KQ where the pilots practically plant the airplane on the runway. The hardest so far being on 29 March 2014 while landing in Amsterdam (5Y-KYZ), where a couple of oxygen masks fell down.
Youtube has a few videos of KQ "skills", worth a few laughs. Note; even though the landings are fairly hard, they are very safe and within the specifications of the aircraft (but not me). Ouch! And Kenyan pilots insist they are as skilled as the best in the world. Often it's a good idea to let others come in and teach us how to improve our skills or technique. You may be 'qualified' on paper but there's skill, talent and experience that one needs to acquire. The worst i ever got was a turbulence aboard delta over the carribean islands, the pilots told us later that the plane lost 30 metres at once during the turbulence, the worst bit they were serving drinks you can imagine the chaos, then all over a sudden alot of guys started reading bibles and other materials Turbulence is often unexpected and happens in the air. This is different from landing. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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freiks wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ash Ock wrote:KQ pilots seem to have a problem with landing. The hardest landings I've experienced have all been on KQ where the pilots practically plant the airplane on the runway. The hardest so far being on 29 March 2014 while landing in Amsterdam (5Y-KYZ), where a couple of oxygen masks fell down.
Youtube has a few videos of KQ "skills", worth a few laughs. Note; even though the landings are fairly hard, they are very safe and within the specifications of the aircraft (but not me). Ouch! And Kenyan pilots insist they are as skilled as the best in the world. Often it's a good idea to let others come in and teach us how to improve our skills or technique. You may be 'qualified' on paper but there's skill, talent and experience that one needs to acquire. The worst i ever got was a turbulence aboard delta over the carribean islands, the pilots told us later that the plane lost 30 metres at once during the turbulence, the worst bit they were serving drinks you can imagine the chaos, then all over a sudden alot of guys started reading bibles and other materials Turbulence is often unexpected and happens in the air. This is different from landing. You can't see turbulence but technology is being developed to 'sense' it to avoid the worst bits. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:@Ash Ock, the oxygen masks fell because of the cabin pressure nothing to do with landing. You haven't heard of bizarre landings, recently a pilot landed in the wrong airport in NA and he only realized when the runway fell short. And guess what, he couldn't take off...yes because the runway was not enough.  Though taking off from short [of recommended length] runways is not uncommon as long as the plane is empty & the plane's engines are at full throttle... What do they do when a plane cannot take off? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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dunkang wrote:@Murchr, how can that happen in North America?
Is aviation and security technology over-hyped? But ofcourse how can such a blander happen in this day where we have gps in everything? But un professionalism in the aviation sector is common in North America in 2011 an Egypt Air plane almost crushed headon with a Lufthansa plane at JFKIA while taxing..the Egypt air plane took a wrong turn on instructions by the air traffic controller. They stopped the two planes but the Lufthansa plane got damaged. Anyway this is a KQ thread "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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