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Most Powerful Militaries in Africa
McReggae
#31 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 11:16:42 AM
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majimaji wrote:
McReggae wrote:
majimaji wrote:
McReggae wrote:
majimaji wrote:

it's not the size of the dog in the fight;it's the size of the dog in the fight.
a small county's army walking in gumboots humiliated a country the size of western Europe. That small country is Rwanda and the giant is Congo DRC.


You must be joking right?
Rwanda can kick DRC's Eastern ass only because Rwanda is a compact, disciplined and technically superior army, while DRC is the opposite (a house divided and disoriented).If DRC was stable, and militarily aggressive, they will kick out Kagame, Museveni and the Europeans who are ripping them off!


the best military is the one constantly in war. just because you have money and equipment in warehouses does not mean your army is good


smile You are being vague now, I just explained to you why comparing DRC and Rwanda doesn't give the real picture about how the numbers would help in a war!!!!


Your picture may never happen. DRC Congo, like Ukraine is not even a real country as Kinshasa is not in full control and never has. I predict it will break up eventually.


Exactly my point bro, it means since DRC is not gonna be one any time soon we can't compare it's military capability with one stable and organized country!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
McReggae
#32 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 11:21:50 AM
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guru267 wrote:
I think Afghanistan has proved to the world that all the Military equipment and "might" in the world doesn't necessarily mean you can win a war..

Those Afghan Mujahideen have fought back Alexander the Great, The British, the Soviets and the Americans with virtually no military equipment!

I think M7 would actually beat Kenya in a war if it came to it... Those Ugandan boys have fought everywhere from C.A.R to D.R.C to S.Sudan to Somalia etc etc

It took 4 days for KDF to subdue 4 men.. 1 man per day! Sad


C'mon Westgate was never supposed to be a military operation in the 1st place.

It's a fact that when going into war with another country in their territory then ground tactics are way ahead of weaponry and number of troops. The latter compliment the former. Remember Ethiopia took over Somalia in months, but also had to leave in months after the situation got unbearable. Kenya took a longer time to take Kismayu, but has consolidated its hold there, Ethiopia now has a chance to sneak back into Somalia!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
McReggae
#33 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 11:23:28 AM
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I can see @Intelligentsia, your opinion bro!
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Intelligentsia
#34 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 12:08:35 PM
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@guru..you clearly have issues with KDF,right? And it has everything to do with the OLN foray into soomaliya!

You cannot use the Westgate fiasco (we still dont know the full story,do we?) as a yardstick of KDF's abilities while blissfully ignoring the fully military Op in Kismayu. KDF's amphibious landing to retake kismayo was a major strategic and intelligence move involving real-time coordination of the 3 branches of the armed forces (and military intelligence) and instantly made military chiefs in the region (+western militaries and west africa) sit up and take notice and totally change their perception of KDF - why, it is case study in major military schools now! The West african's even came to Nbi to take notes on this Op. when they wanted to go into Mali!

@Swenani..be careful of that site, like the other Strategic Intelligence News its full of planted info and half-truths...

About Angolan army anyone who disputes they are one of Africa's strongest, experienced and well-armed militaries is wasting your time, simply don't argue with them.

Ethiopian army is also large and experienced but short on strategies - akin to a large blundering giant that comes crushing everything in its sight but doesnt think of the aftermath. That is why they cant sustain military expeditions ala Somalia campaigns.

KDF are a small disciplined professional army good in strategy and modern tactics ala Special Forces and Deltas - they were the vanguard team that played a key role in Kismayo's capture. KDF could do even better with modern equipment (bulk of our F-5s fighters were bought by Old Man Jomo). If you are stuck with the conduct of a few soldiers at westgate ala Nakumatt paperbags then you are missing out on the bigger picture. Its like saying the U.S. militray is indisciplined just because some soldiers actually looted from Sadam's palaces in 1991. Shauri wako.

Intelligentsia
#35 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 12:12:20 PM
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The Ugandan military has really professionalized over the years and has one of the most powerful air forces in East and Central Africa. They took a leaf from our Ops in Somaliya and even formed a Special Forces branch commanded my M7's son. Have no doubt their jets hidden in the Ruwenzori Mtns are advanced 4th generation air superiority machines we just can't match.

SA's military has been in steady decline due to falling budget cuts. A has-been. A giant who has refused to carry their weight in Africa, until only recently in CAR.

Egyptian army is byad byad news, and have numbers upon numbers of advanced top range U.S-made military machines and a well-trained army to boot. But @chepkel, they cant beat Israel and never have - even when Egypt and Syria jointly and suddenly attacked Israel they were beaten resoundingly, sembuse sasa Egypt peke yao je? And when you add Israel has more than 100 nukes...
McReggae
#36 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 12:20:03 PM
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@Intellintentsia, Applause Applause Applause Applause Well grounded submissions, ahasante!!!
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guru267
#37 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 1:05:23 PM
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Wasn't Kismayu practically empty when KDF raided?? I heard the Shabaabs had long vacated the area!

Why is KDF complacent with the little gains they have made while these guys regroup in other remote areas of Somalia and plot terror?? Sad



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McReggae
#38 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 1:12:03 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Wasn't Kismayu practically empty when KDF raided?? I heard the Shabaabs had long vacated the area!

Why is KDF complacent with the little gains they have made while these guys regroup in other remote areas of Somalia and plot terror?? Sad



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accelriskconsult
#39 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 3:07:53 PM
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wa P
#40 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 5:03:08 PM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
chepkel wrote:
I maintain. Egypt won the war. You will see that I am not seeing things from Egyptian eyes but from fact.
You can watch it here

Youm Kippur



Read this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_Sadat.

Israel gained more ground during Yom Kipur despite fighting on two fronts.

The Suez Canal was only regained following the peace treaty with Israel.

And Chepkel, don't you think that for Sadat to go sign a peace treaty in Israel was an act of surrender? Just think about it for a minute.


Egypt employed its best military strategy yet at Youm Kippur. Won some battles but lost the war. Propagada in Egypt focus on a few decisive battlefront upsets.

Think about the evolution of military strategy as well. Today, Egypt cannot even dream of attacking Israel - well, nobody can except China. Not even Russ. Israel's entente with Egypt is anchored on commercial interests. E.G. Israel grows best fruits, sell them to Egypt who rebrand it and sell to Arab world.

But Egypt is arguably the strongest military in Africa. When we shall be discussing the strongest police force in Africa, SA will feature prominently.

Like Obama told Romney, military evolves. Kenya has a small, disciplined and intelligent military. The future of military is not numbers or equipment. It is the head.

There is a certain country with a cyber warfare regiment. They can shut down major, digital cities in minutes...
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