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chepkel wrote:Swenani wrote:chepkel wrote:I maintain. Egypt won the war. You will see that I am not seeing things from Egyptian eyes but from fact. You can watch it here Youm Kippur In my limited understanding, Israel won the war in 1967 while egypt won teh war in 1973 due to teh surprise nature of the attack by Egypt(i think) Yes, You are right. The Egyptians made an attack on Youm Kippur. Youm Kippur is one of the holiest day among the Jews. They were absolutely suprised when Egypt attacked. Israel will never give up any land that it grabs unless it is defeated in war. They left Egypt alone because they were scared of the egyptian army which put up a great fight. Unfortunately, Palestine was unable to do the same and this is why Israel was able to grab all the land that it has now  Probaly what we don't agree is how/why the awr ended, Egypt was never the victor. . The Soviets, wanting to avoid both an Arab defeat and military intervention, and the Israelis that America do the same for them. Not wanting to see Israel defeated, Nixon agreed, and American planes carrying weapons began arriving in Israel and the fighting turned against the Arabs. Once the IDF units crossed the Suez Canal, Sadat began to show interest in a ceasefire and the rest as they say is history! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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McReggae wrote:majimaji wrote:
it's not the size of the dog in the fight;it's the size of the dog in the fight.
a small county's army walking in gumboots humiliated a country the size of western Europe. That small country is Rwanda and the giant is Congo DRC.
You must be joking right? Rwanda can kick DRC's Eastern ass only because Rwanda is a compact, disciplined and technically superior army, while DRC is the opposite (a house divided and disoriented).If DRC was stable, and militarily aggressive, they will kick out Kagame, Museveni and the Europeans who are ripping them off! the best military is the one constantly in war. just because you have money and equipment in warehouses does not mean your army is good
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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majimaji wrote:McReggae wrote:majimaji wrote:
it's not the size of the dog in the fight;it's the size of the dog in the fight.
a small county's army walking in gumboots humiliated a country the size of western Europe. That small country is Rwanda and the giant is Congo DRC.
You must be joking right? Rwanda can kick DRC's Eastern ass only because Rwanda is a compact, disciplined and technically superior army, while DRC is the opposite (a house divided and disoriented).If DRC was stable, and militarily aggressive, they will kick out Kagame, Museveni and the Europeans who are ripping them off! the best military is the one constantly in war. just because you have money and equipment in warehouses does not mean your army is good You are being vague now, I just explained to you why comparing DRC and Rwanda doesn't give the real picture about how the numbers would help in a war!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/2/2011 Posts: 629 Location: Nai
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chepkel wrote:I maintain. Egypt won the war. You will see that I am not seeing things from Egyptian eyes but from fact. You can watch it here Youm Kippur Read this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_Sadat.
Israel gained more ground during Yom Kipur despite fighting on two fronts. The Suez Canal was only regained following the peace treaty with Israel. And Chepkel, don't you think that for Sadat to go sign a peace treaty in Israel was an act of surrender? Just think about it for a minute.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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accelriskconsult wrote:guru267 wrote:After Westgate putting Kenya on that list would be an insult to many countries!  Not necessarily. As I pointed out above in the case of Aideed vs the US Marines, asymmetrical warfare distorts perception on military might and Shabaabs tactics bear all the hallmarks. Aideed didn't fight US Marines but fought the most elite of US troops deltas and rangers in one of the best ambushes in urban warfare, the blow was so bad it took US a decade to puts US ground troops in combat.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/2/2011 Posts: 629 Location: Nai
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chepkel wrote:Swenani wrote:chepkel wrote:I maintain. Egypt won the war. You will see that I am not seeing things from Egyptian eyes but from fact. You can watch it here Youm Kippur In my limited understanding, Israel won the war in 1967 while egypt won teh war in 1973 due to teh surprise nature of the attack by Egypt(i think) Yes, You are right. The Egyptians made an attack on Youm Kippur. Youm Kippur is one of the holiest day among the Jews. They were absolutely suprised when Egypt attacked. Israel will never give up any land that it grabs unless it is defeated in war. They left Egypt alone because they were scared of the egyptian army which put up a great fight. Unfortunately, Palestine was unable to do the same and this is why Israel was able to grab all the land that it has now Chepkel I usually agree with you but I know that you are wrong on this. In Yom Kippur, Egypt won a few battles in the first few days and got the credit for that from all sides. But they lost the war and lost more ground.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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majimaji wrote:McReggae wrote:majimaji wrote:
it's not the size of the dog in the fight;it's the size of the dog in the fight.
a small county's army walking in gumboots humiliated a country the size of western Europe. That small country is Rwanda and the giant is Congo DRC.
You must be joking right? Rwanda can kick DRC's Eastern ass only because Rwanda is a compact, disciplined and technically superior army, while DRC is the opposite (a house divided and disoriented).If DRC was stable, and militarily aggressive, they will kick out Kagame, Museveni and the Europeans who are ripping them off! the best military is the one constantly in war. just because you have money and equipment in warehouses does not mean your army is good  If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Back to discussing the most powerful militaries in Afrcia people!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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McReggae wrote:majimaji wrote:McReggae wrote:majimaji wrote:
it's not the size of the dog in the fight;it's the size of the dog in the fight.
a small county's army walking in gumboots humiliated a country the size of western Europe. That small country is Rwanda and the giant is Congo DRC.
You must be joking right? Rwanda can kick DRC's Eastern ass only because Rwanda is a compact, disciplined and technically superior army, while DRC is the opposite (a house divided and disoriented).If DRC was stable, and militarily aggressive, they will kick out Kagame, Museveni and the Europeans who are ripping them off! the best military is the one constantly in war. just because you have money and equipment in warehouses does not mean your army is good You are being vague now, I just explained to you why comparing DRC and Rwanda doesn't give the real picture about how the numbers would help in a war!!!! Your picture may never happen. DRC Congo, like Ukraine is not even a real country as Kinshasa is not in full control and never has. I predict it will break up eventually.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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I think Afghanistan has proved to the world that all the Military equipment and "might" in the world doesn't necessarily mean you can win a war.. Those Afghan Mujahideen have fought back Alexander the Great, The British, the Soviets and the Americans with virtually no military equipment! I think M7 would actually beat Kenya in a war if it came to it... Those Ugandan boys have fought everywhere from C.A.R to D.R.C to S.Sudan to Somalia etc etc It took 4 days for KDF to subdue 4 men.. 1 man per day!  Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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