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Most Powerful Militaries in Africa
chepkel
#11 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 9:51:02 AM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
chepkel wrote:
Egypt has a very strong military supported by the entire Gulf region. Countries like Saudi Arabia and the like fund the Egyptian Army so that they can defend them in case of any eventuality. Apparently, Gulf Countries have the money and equipment but lack trained personnel plus their population is also small. On the other hand, The Military here is darm darm super super rich and very well trained. They also get annual aid, equipment and training from the US as part of the Peace deal that they made with Israel after the war in '79. It is compulsory for all men in this country to do a one year military training. Though there are some exceptions like if one of your parent is not Egyptian, if you are the only son or if your father is deceased. These people do not take training and military funding lightly. The Military has a lot of wealth and it has invested in Real Estate and much more.

Even Israel with all its power and might is afraid of Egypt. Isreal had stolen Egyptian Land, the Sinai Peninsula, and the Egyptian army, under the leadership of Anwar Sadat, humiliated the Isrealis and forced them out. And they have never tried anything like that again. The Egyptian army, under Gamel Abd El Nasser, defeated the British and French to reclaim the Suez Canal. The Egyptian people worship the military and they value their strength.


Chepkel Egypt is the strongest military power in the Arab world. period. But its skirmishes with Israel ended up with a bloodied nose including one instance when all their fighter planes were wiped out before taking off. Israel only withdrew from the Sinai Peninsula under a peace arrangement and under a military assault. You should careful reading about Egyptian war history as seen through Egyptian eyes.


But all said, asymmetrical war tactics which avoid direct military confrontation have empowered some informal military players. The Somali warlord Aideed embarrassed the U.S in Somali but it doesn't mean that his militia was more powerful than the U.S Army, specifically the Marines.

MC ...Angola should rank very highly in Africa




The Israel-Egypt War did not end with a peace deal. Egyptians defeated the Israelis on Youm Kippur!!. This is known as the 6th of October war, great military day here in Egypt and a feast day!!!

Immediately, after Egypt won the war Anwar Sadat got on a plane and went to Israel and brokered a peace deal. Israel would not touch any more of Egyptian land and the two states would coexist in Peace. The Israelis were shocked at Sadat's actions but since they were humiliated they gave in. By the way this is the deal that got Anwar Sadat assassinated. Many people in the arab world did not like Sadat's new friendship with Israel.

what you are talking about happened earlier in 1967, i think. And it was under the reign of Gamel Abd El Nasser. I think you should read on Egyptian History more closely smile smile
Swenani
#12 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 9:53:47 AM
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McReggae wrote:
chepkel wrote:
Egypt has a very strong military supported by the entire Gulf region. Countries like Saudi Arabia and the like fund the Egyptian Army so that they can defend them in case of any eventuality. Apparently, Gulf Countries have the money and equipment but lack trained personnel plus their population is also small. On the other hand, The Military here is darm darm super super rich and very well trained. They also get annual aid, equipment and training from the US as part of the Peace deal that they made with Israel after the war in '79. It is compulsory for all men in this country to do a one year military training. Though there are some exceptions like if one of your parent is not Egyptian, if you are the only son or if your father is deceased. These people do not take training and military funding lightly. The Military has a lot of wealth and it has invested in Real Estate and much more.

Even Israel with all its power and might is afraid of Egypt. Isreal had stolen Egyptian Land, the Sinai Peninsula, and the Egyptian army, under the leadership of Anwar Sadat, humiliated the Isrealis and forced them out. And they have never tried anything like that again. The Egyptian army, under Gamel Abd El Nasser, defeated the British and French to reclaim the Suez Canal. The Egyptian people worship the military and they value their strength.


I still think in terms of Equipement and sophistication SA should behead of Egypt but you know usage is another issue altogether!!!!


Maybe technology but n terms of Equipment regardless of how outdated or old they are. Egypt has the largest equipment compared to S.A while Nigeria has the largest army in terms of its numbers.

When we went to somalia, I stumbled upon this board http://eastafrican.userboard.net/

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McReggae
#13 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 10:02:30 AM
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@Chepkel there has never been a consensus on who won the 1973 war but this reminds a story that once, during a meeting with Hosni Mubarak over the Suez Canal - some Arab nations had demanded that Mubarak bars Israel from accessing the canal - Sharon wondered loudly what damage a small nuke would do to the canal if it ever was blockaded by the Arabs. The Arabs relented......the Jews are luantic I tell you Israel is not usually bound by the many treaties and conventions in other parts of the world, and is the typical loose cannon. They are not the sort of country you start a needless war with!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
chepkel
#14 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 10:03:58 AM
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I maintain. Egypt won the war. You will see that I am not seeing things from Egyptian eyes but from fact.
You can watch it here

Youm Kippur
Swenani
#15 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 10:04:17 AM
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McReggae wrote:
accelriskconsult wrote:
chepkel wrote:
Egypt has a very strong military supported by the entire Gulf region. Countries like Saudi Arabia and the like fund the Egyptian Army so that they can defend them in case of any eventuality. Apparently, Gulf Countries have the money and equipment but lack trained personnel plus their population is also small. On the other hand, The Military here is darm darm super super rich and very well trained. They also get annual aid, equipment and training from the US as part of the Peace deal that they made with Israel after the war in '79. It is compulsory for all men in this country to do a one year military training. Though there are some exceptions like if one of your parent is not Egyptian, if you are the only son or if your father is deceased. These people do not take training and military funding lightly. The Military has a lot of wealth and it has invested in Real Estate and much more.

Even Israel with all its power and might is afraid of Egypt. Isreal had stolen Egyptian Land, the Sinai Peninsula, and the Egyptian army, under the leadership of Anwar Sadat, humiliated the Isrealis and forced them out. And they have never tried anything like that again. The Egyptian army, under Gamel Abd El Nasser, defeated the British and French to reclaim the Suez Canal. The Egyptian people worship the military and they value their strength.


Chepkel Egypt is the strongest military power in the Arab world. period. But its skirmishes with Israel ended up with a bloodied nose including one instance when all their fighter planes were wiped out before taking off. Israel only withdrew from the Sinai Peninsula under a peace arrangement and not under a military assault. You should be careful reading about Egyptian war history as seen through Egyptian eyes.


But all said, asymmetrical war tactics which avoid direct military confrontation have empowered some informal military players. The Somali warlord Aideed embarrassed the U.S in Somali but it doesn't mean that his militia was more powerful than the U.S Army, specifically the Marines.

MC ...Angola should rank very highly in Africa



Absolutely, infact Angola is a superpower in regional matters, if it wasn't for them, Kagame and Museveni would have divided Congo between them. Angola is very well-endowed economically and extremely organized and well armed/ trained military.


Ooooooh pliz, Please provide numbers.Which regional matters?
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Swenani
#16 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 10:05:54 AM
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chepkel wrote:
I maintain. Egypt won the war. You will see that I am not seeing things from Egyptian eyes but from fact.
You can watch it here

Youm Kippur

In my limited understanding, Israel won the war in 1967 while egypt won teh war in 1973 due to teh surprise nature of the attack by Egypt(i think)
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McReggae
#17 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 10:09:51 AM
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Swenani wrote:
McReggae wrote:
accelriskconsult wrote:
chepkel wrote:
Egypt has a very strong military supported by the entire Gulf region. Countries like Saudi Arabia and the like fund the Egyptian Army so that they can defend them in case of any eventuality. Apparently, Gulf Countries have the money and equipment but lack trained personnel plus their population is also small. On the other hand, The Military here is darm darm super super rich and very well trained. They also get annual aid, equipment and training from the US as part of the Peace deal that they made with Israel after the war in '79. It is compulsory for all men in this country to do a one year military training. Though there are some exceptions like if one of your parent is not Egyptian, if you are the only son or if your father is deceased. These people do not take training and military funding lightly. The Military has a lot of wealth and it has invested in Real Estate and much more.

Even Israel with all its power and might is afraid of Egypt. Isreal had stolen Egyptian Land, the Sinai Peninsula, and the Egyptian army, under the leadership of Anwar Sadat, humiliated the Isrealis and forced them out. And they have never tried anything like that again. The Egyptian army, under Gamel Abd El Nasser, defeated the British and French to reclaim the Suez Canal. The Egyptian people worship the military and they value their strength.


Chepkel Egypt is the strongest military power in the Arab world. period. But its skirmishes with Israel ended up with a bloodied nose including one instance when all their fighter planes were wiped out before taking off. Israel only withdrew from the Sinai Peninsula under a peace arrangement and not under a military assault. You should be careful reading about Egyptian war history as seen through Egyptian eyes.


But all said, asymmetrical war tactics which avoid direct military confrontation have empowered some informal military players. The Somali warlord Aideed embarrassed the U.S in Somali but it doesn't mean that his militia was more powerful than the U.S Army, specifically the Marines.

MC ...Angola should rank very highly in Africa



Absolutely, infact Angola is a superpower in regional matters, if it wasn't for them, Kagame and Museveni would have divided Congo between them. Angola is very well-endowed economically and extremely organized and well armed/ trained military.


Ooooooh pliz, Please provide numbers.Which regional matters?


I didn't say they have the best but they are militarily hardened after their war with SA and UNITA....they protect their forte within the region pretty well!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Impunity
#18 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 10:11:30 AM
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guru267 wrote:
After Westgate putting Kenya on that list would be an insult to many countries! Shame on you


Especially the seeing the siekes carrying paperbags full of drinking water!

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chepkel
#19 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 10:12:43 AM
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Swenani wrote:
chepkel wrote:
I maintain. Egypt won the war. You will see that I am not seeing things from Egyptian eyes but from fact.
You can watch it here

Youm Kippur

In my limited understanding, Israel won the war in 1967 while egypt won teh war in 1973 due to teh surprise nature of the attack by Egypt(i think)


Yes, You are right. The Egyptians made an attack on Youm Kippur. Youm Kippur is one of the holiest day among the Jews. They were absolutely suprised when Egypt attacked.

Israel will never give up any land that it grabs unless it is defeated in war. They left Egypt alone because they were scared of the egyptian army which put up a great fight. Unfortunately, Palestine was unable to do the same and this is why Israel was able to grab all the land that it has now smile
Impunity
#20 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 10:17:35 AM
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McReggae wrote:
@Chepkel there has never been a consensus on who won the 1973 war but this reminds a story that once, during a meeting with Hosni Mubarak over the Suez Canal - some Arab nations had demanded that Mubarak bars Israel from accessing the canal - Sharon wondered loudly what damage a small nuke would do to the canal if it ever was blockaded by the Arabs. The Arabs relented......the Jews are luantic I tell you Israel is not usually bound by the many treaties and conventions in other parts of the world, and is the typical loose cannon. They are not the sort of country you start a needless war with!!!


You are trying to look down upon @chepkel's in laws?
You are in for a rude shock!
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