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Breaking News!! Makaburi Dead??
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#201 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 9:43:56 PM
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I still don't get what guru and makaburi's interest in Somalia is. These terrorists' crazy minds make me wonder how the World would be if other religions behaved like them. And NSIS needs to check wazua...the HSM Press handle owner could be right here with us
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
jaggernaut
#202 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:35:49 PM
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Some days ago I suggested that govt should deal ruthlessly with terrorists, starting with Makaburi. Otherwise how should a country deal with a traitor, who works with enemies (al shabaab) to kill fellow citizens?
washiku
#203 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:36:37 PM
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guru267 wrote:
The silence on the Mombasa streets is very telling of possible things to come Sad


What do you mean? Are you implying that there might be disorder? When Christian women and children are killed by unknown assailant in their churches as they pray, Christians respect the law and allows the govt to do its investigative work. Whether that actually happens is a story of another day. When a self confessed terrorist sympathiser is shot dead by unknown assailant, Muslims starts threatening us with "possible things to come". The other time they burned churches after Rogo died. Yet you still expect us to trust you when you support the terrorists and their actions in the name of free Somalia? What does babies and women have to do with war in somalia? If those terrorists are as tough as they want us to believe, why not attack police stations and barracks?

I know some people are disappointed there were no chaos in Mombasa. Could be even the sympathisers are starting to realise the true values of the extremist nature of the fake teachings being damped in their mind. Maybe its strategic. I heard MUHURI giving the govt 3 days to identify the killers or face mass protests. How comes such protests were not organised after Christians were attacked in church if they are honest? Wakati huu watakipata. Let them cause chaos n destruction at their own peril. They will not blame anyone if they are politely escorted to join Makaburi.
jaggernaut
#204 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:44:32 PM
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Why is it that when a Christian criminal is shot we never hear sentiments that Christianity is under seige, but when a criminal who happens to be Muslim is annihilated we hear that Muslims are being targeted?
washiku
#205 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:55:38 PM
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This question is supposed to be so ridiculous... Its answer is supposed to be obvious. But with some arguments I have been seeing around here these days, the answer could go either way. In fact, reasons why he should not have lived could be quoted from the scriptures.

kysse
#206 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:23:49 PM
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One thing I love about christianity is the fact that we always condemn those preachers who extort,lie and commit crime among us.We never come to their defence when they err no matter what.



Ngong
#207 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:56:24 PM
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kysse wrote:
One thing I love about christianity is the fact that we always condemn those preachers who extort,lie and commit crime among us.We never come to their defence when they err no matter what.





Unless married!
Murang'a
#208 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 7:29:51 AM
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George W Bush once said that ' Not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims.
Therefore, if we want to end terrorism the govt should work closely with the anti-terrorists muslims to combat it, but that is very hard when the likes of Haki Africa are threatenin to protest because of one Kenyan whereas they never do the same when several Kenyans are bombed.

Uhuru should look for a 'Michuki like' figure and have him replace the ever soft spoken Lenku.
I watched R. Omamo's speech yester and u could see authority and command when he spoke of KDF operations, its true Al-Shabaab cannot be frightened by that but it will work greatly in winning Kenyans trust ( which is highly important and lacking at the moment)
IMITATION IS LIMITATION
Euge
#209 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 7:44:58 AM
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Tebes wrote:
Sad



Akina Doti are still at it! Puh! They stink!
Lord, thank you!
McReggae
#210 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:44:01 AM
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Martys are never cleaned!!!

..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
AlphDoti
#211 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:47:40 AM
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maka wrote:
@Alph I am looking for you...email address please.Thanks

@maka sorry for the delay, my email is alphdoti at gmail dot com
Looking forward to talking more with you.
AlphDoti
#212 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:49:28 AM
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Euge wrote:
Tebes wrote:
Sad


Akina Doti are still at it! Puh! They stink!

@Euge heshima si utumwa.
AlphDoti
#213 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 10:04:10 AM
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Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
The Quran and valid authentic Hadiths are very clear about anyone who commits suicide.
The way Islam has condemned suicide making as grave sin, then it is unthinkable for its followers to regard sex as a reward if they were to take their lives.

Entities like the media have twisted this alleged saying to suit their fancies and smear Islam with ridicule and humiliation.

Dude! Focus, focus!!! No one really cares if its true or not.

Ebu tell us more on this

@Kratos dude, you're the one who needs to focus. You're not even listening to the answer to a question before asking another? I'm clarifying misconception about 71 virgins. It's not Islamic. It's media propaganda. So I hope we're clear about it.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly So now you will not answer my question because you want to discuss virgins? Ebu jibu @ Masukuma hapo juu then come back we discuss the video

@kratos Im going to answer you even when I know "you don't really care if it's true or not" Liar Sad I will answer you anyway. You probably have a fixed mind, you just want to argue, that's why you said the above words. Anyway I'll answer.

As regards the video, I don't know what the person committed. If you know, then let me know. However, Islam looks at the family and its structures very, very important. Security of the society is very important in the case of theft and murder. For example armed robber who is involved in robbery will be executed.

Similarly for the sake of family, the family is the core of the society. Because once the family breaks down, you are finished. So in order to protect that family, the laws are very strong.

Islam discourages murder, robbery, homosexuality, pedophile, etc. It encourages good morals, earning legally, marrying early (even up to 4 wives if necessary, there are conditions). All these things are are as options for people so that they don't commit sin. So beyond that now, any kind of illicit sex or robbery is treated as a grave crime. And the punishment is very, very grave.

And I should mention, the punishment for these crimes is not something Islam introduced. This is found in Mosaic law. It's been around, not something newly introduced. Islam just revived it, brought it back to the fore-front, and established it, made it alive even until today. Whereas in other societies it has been lost, the idea is not considered applicable.

Recognize application of law is not blindly across the board Shame on you
You know somebody accusing somebody of murder or robbery or sodomy and law is just applied? No. Islamic law requires that there be four witnesses for the application of this law. These laws are not applied unless there are four witnesses. And they must be reliable witnesses, not just anybody, but people who are known to be just and righteous. And without those four witnesses, the law cannot be applied.

For example theft. That's why the number of cases of people whose hands cut are very, very, very few if at all they are there! Over the last 1400 years to today, they are very, very few. They can be counted.

I HOPE YOU WILL READ THE WHOLE OF WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN ABOVE
alma
#214 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 11:18:28 AM
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Alphdoti, I think you are really doing a diservice to Islam when you come here and start preaching about its goodness.

I have tried to help you out alot by asking that religion not be used in this conversation. Yet you bring it back.

There is no one on wazua who is not happy when a terrorist dies. Anyone who has the stupidity in him to throw bombs at children and women deserves what he gets from those who seek retaliation.

If Makaburi was involved in any way shape or form in making young Muslim lads go around throwing bombs at other people ati because of Israel, Somalia or their Afro, then he's lucky I'm not president.

I hate extre-judicial killings.

But I hate bomb throwers more.

So take Islam out of the equation. For one second please.

Just as you hate it when Americans bomb innocent children in Afghanistan or wherever they strike next, Kenyans also hate it when some fellow goes around saying that he'll kill all kafirs.

No one should be allowed to kill people for religious reasons.

That is where you are failing by trying to fight with the other side of the fundamentalist christians who believe if you are not saved, you should also be a kafir.

No killing of innocent people because of your religion. On that one, you can rest assured, if I was implementing the Kenyan security policy, Makaburi would have gone a very very very long time ago.

Unlike the fellows who did this, I would have been more subtle. You would probably have found him at Karumaindo in the bossom of some red eyed, veve smoking prostitute. Just to make a point.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
McReggae
#215 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 11:30:18 AM
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alma wrote:
Alphdoti, I think you are really doing a diservice to Islam when you come here and start preaching about its goodness.

I have tried to help you out alot by asking that religion not be used in this conversation. Yet you bring it back.

There is no one on wazua who is not happy when a terrorist dies. Anyone who has the stupidity in him to throw bombs at children and women deserves what he gets from those who seek retaliation.

If Makaburi was involved in any way shape or form in making young Muslim lads go around throwing bombs at other people ati because of Israel, Somalia or their Afro, then he's lucky I'm not president.

I hate extre-judicial killings.

But I hate bomb throwers more.

So take Islam out of the equation. For one second please.

Just as you hate it when Americans bomb innocent children in Afghanistan or wherever they strike next, Kenyans also hate it when some fellow goes around saying that he'll kill all kafirs.

No one should be allowed to kill people for religious reasons.

That is where you are failing by trying to fight with the other side of the fundamentalist christians who believe if you are not saved, you should also be a kafir.

No killing of innocent people because of your religion. On that one, you can rest assured, if I was implementing the Kenyan security policy, Makaburi would have gone a very very very long time ago.

Unlike the fellows who did this, I would have been more subtle. You would probably have found him at Karumaindo in the bossom of some red eyed, veve smoking prostitute. Just to make a point.


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..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Swenani
#216 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 11:45:38 AM
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Siringi wrote:
Tebes wrote:
Sad



Sad where? what is the distance between Mlango and Moi Airbase ? Juja Road



Our Journalists dont know Nairobi City Geography
At least Star Acknowleding the Source smile





Seems this was a hoax.No bomb was found


If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
AlphDoti
#217 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 11:49:20 AM
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McReggae wrote:
alma wrote:
Alphdoti, I think you are really doing a diservice to Islam when you come here and start preaching about its goodness.

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@alma sorry I'm not preaching. I was just answering a question. And yes Islam is good. I just a few misconception once in a while.

@McReggae why are you clapping? Didn't I tell you this is your habit? You never answered the question I asked you last time after talking badly. And you re-appear to clap Shame on you
Jus Blazin
#218 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 11:52:05 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Siringi wrote:
Tebes wrote:
Sad



Sad where? what is the distance between Mlango and Moi Airbase ? Juja Road



Our Journalists dont know Nairobi City Geography
At least Star Acknowleding the Source smile





Seems this was a hoax.No bomb was found



IED boss, IED. And it was detonated.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Jus Blazin
#219 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 11:53:51 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
McReggae wrote:
alma wrote:
Alphdoti, I think you are really doing a diservice to Islam when you come here and start preaching about its goodness.

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@alma sorry I'm not preaching. I was just answering a question. And yes Islam is good. I just a few misconception once in a while.

@McReggae why are you clapping? Didn't I tell you this is your habit? You never answered the question I asked you last time after talking badly. And you re-appear to clap Shame on you

I think you are the one who needs to read @alma's post in full. No one has a problem with Muslims. People have a problem with the peeps who use terrorism in the name of religion. Don't you just get it?
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
McReggae
#220 Posted : Thursday, April 03, 2014 11:54:44 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
McReggae wrote:
alma wrote:
Alphdoti, I think you are really doing a diservice to Islam when you come here and start preaching about its goodness.

Applause Applause Applause Applause

@alma sorry I'm not preaching. I was just answering a question. And yes Islam is good. I just a few misconception once in a while.

@McReggae why are you clapping? Didn't I tell you this is your habit? You never answered the question I asked you last time after talking badly. And you re-appear to clap Shame on you


????????Kwani I can't clap when I agree with a posting, what is??? I can't even remember your question, if I didn't answer then I most probably didn't find it worthy of my time!!!!
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