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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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maka wrote:@Alph I am looking for you...email address please.Thanks
@maka sorry for the delay, my email is alphdoti at gmail dot com
Looking forward to talking more with you.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Euge wrote:
Akina Doti are still at it! Puh! They stink!
@Euge heshima si utumwa.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Kratos wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Kratos wrote:AlphDoti wrote:The Quran and valid authentic Hadiths are very clear about anyone who commits suicide.
The way Islam has condemned suicide making as grave sin, then it is unthinkable for its followers to regard sex as a reward if they were to take their lives.
Entities like the media have twisted this alleged saying to suit their fancies and smear Islam with ridicule and humiliation.
Dude! Focus, focus!!! No one really cares if its true or not.
Ebu tell us more on this
@Kratos dude, you're the one who needs to focus. You're not even listening to the answer to a question before asking another? I'm clarifying misconception about 71 virgins. It's not Islamic. It's media propaganda. So I hope we're clear about it.
 So now you will not answer my question because you want to discuss virgins? Ebu jibu @ Masukuma hapo juu then come back we discuss the video
@kratos Im going to answer you even when I know " you don't really care if it's true or not"  I will answer you anyway. You probably have a fixed mind, you just want to argue, that's why you said the above words. Anyway I'll answer.
As regards the video, I don't know what the person committed. If you know, then let me know. However, Islam looks at the family and its structures very, very important. Security of the society is very important in the case of theft and murder. For example armed robber who is involved in robbery will be executed.
Similarly for the sake of family, the family is the core of the society. Because once the family breaks down, you are finished. So in order to protect that family, the laws are very strong.
Islam discourages murder, robbery, homosexuality, pedophile, etc. It encourages good morals, earning legally, marrying early (even up to 4 wives if necessary, there are conditions). All these things are are as options for people so that they don't commit sin. So beyond that now, any kind of illicit sex or robbery is treated as a grave crime. And the punishment is very, very grave.
And I should mention, the punishment for these crimes is not something Islam introduced. This is found in Mosaic law. It's been around, not something newly introduced. Islam just revived it, brought it back to the fore-front, and established it, made it alive even until today. Whereas in other societies it has been lost, the idea is not considered applicable.
Recognize application of law is not blindly across the board 
You know somebody accusing somebody of murder or robbery or sodomy and law is just applied? No. Islamic law requires that there be four witnesses for the application of this law. These laws are not applied unless there are four witnesses. And they must be reliable witnesses, not just anybody, but people who are known to be just and righteous. And without those four witnesses, the law cannot be applied.
For example theft. That's why the number of cases of people whose hands cut are very, very, very few if at all they are there! Over the last 1400 years to today, they are very, very few. They can be counted.
I HOPE YOU WILL READ THE WHOLE OF WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN ABOVE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Alphdoti, I think you are really doing a diservice to Islam when you come here and start preaching about its goodness.
I have tried to help you out alot by asking that religion not be used in this conversation. Yet you bring it back.
There is no one on wazua who is not happy when a terrorist dies. Anyone who has the stupidity in him to throw bombs at children and women deserves what he gets from those who seek retaliation.
If Makaburi was involved in any way shape or form in making young Muslim lads go around throwing bombs at other people ati because of Israel, Somalia or their Afro, then he's lucky I'm not president.
I hate extre-judicial killings.
But I hate bomb throwers more.
So take Islam out of the equation. For one second please.
Just as you hate it when Americans bomb innocent children in Afghanistan or wherever they strike next, Kenyans also hate it when some fellow goes around saying that he'll kill all kafirs.
No one should be allowed to kill people for religious reasons.
That is where you are failing by trying to fight with the other side of the fundamentalist christians who believe if you are not saved, you should also be a kafir.
No killing of innocent people because of your religion. On that one, you can rest assured, if I was implementing the Kenyan security policy, Makaburi would have gone a very very very long time ago.
Unlike the fellows who did this, I would have been more subtle. You would probably have found him at Karumaindo in the bossom of some red eyed, veve smoking prostitute. Just to make a point. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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alma wrote:Alphdoti, I think you are really doing a diservice to Islam when you come here and start preaching about its goodness.
I have tried to help you out alot by asking that religion not be used in this conversation. Yet you bring it back.
There is no one on wazua who is not happy when a terrorist dies. Anyone who has the stupidity in him to throw bombs at children and women deserves what he gets from those who seek retaliation.
If Makaburi was involved in any way shape or form in making young Muslim lads go around throwing bombs at other people ati because of Israel, Somalia or their Afro, then he's lucky I'm not president.
I hate extre-judicial killings.
But I hate bomb throwers more.
So take Islam out of the equation. For one second please.
Just as you hate it when Americans bomb innocent children in Afghanistan or wherever they strike next, Kenyans also hate it when some fellow goes around saying that he'll kill all kafirs.
No one should be allowed to kill people for religious reasons.
That is where you are failing by trying to fight with the other side of the fundamentalist christians who believe if you are not saved, you should also be a kafir.
No killing of innocent people because of your religion. On that one, you can rest assured, if I was implementing the Kenyan security policy, Makaburi would have gone a very very very long time ago.
Unlike the fellows who did this, I would have been more subtle. You would probably have found him at Karumaindo in the bossom of some red eyed, veve smoking prostitute. Just to make a point.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Siringi wrote:
 where? what is the distance between Mlango and Moi Airbase ? Juja Road
Our Journalists dont know Nairobi City Geography
At least Star Acknowleding the Source
Seems this was a hoax.No bomb was found
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@alma sorry I'm not preaching. I was just answering a question. And yes Islam is good. I just a few misconception once in a while.
@McReggae why are you clapping? Didn't I tell you this is your habit? You never answered the question I asked you last time after talking badly. And you re-appear to clap
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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Swenani wrote:Siringi wrote:
 where? what is the distance between Mlango and Moi Airbase ? Juja Road
Our Journalists dont know Nairobi City Geography
At least Star Acknowleding the Source
Seems this was a hoax.No bomb was found
IED boss, IED. And it was detonated. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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AlphDoti wrote:
@alma sorry I'm not preaching. I was just answering a question. And yes Islam is good. I just a few misconception once in a while.
@McReggae why are you clapping? Didn't I tell you this is your habit? You never answered the question I asked you last time after talking badly. And you re-appear to clap
I think you are the one who needs to read @alma's post in full. No one has a problem with Muslims. People have a problem with the peeps who use terrorism in the name of religion. Don't you just get it? Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:
@alma sorry I'm not preaching. I was just answering a question. And yes Islam is good. I just a few misconception once in a while.
@McReggae why are you clapping? Didn't I tell you this is your habit? You never answered the question I asked you last time after talking badly. And you re-appear to clap
????????Kwani I can't clap when I agree with a posting, what is??? I can't even remember your question, if I didn't answer then I most probably didn't find it worthy of my time!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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