masukuma wrote:@AlphDoti - you know me, we agree on very many many many many issues so while its not in the Quran or recognised hadiths it's not a creation of 'the west' but rather one 'Abu Umama' who said
Quote:he Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.'
Kweli rongo? and in the same way other wayward sheikhs like akina Makaburi and others have 'interpreted' your scriptures to suit themselves and fuel their cause.
@masukuma, I'm glad you realize that it is important to understand each. I respect you too in many things. Let this propaganda make us hate each other.
First, don't rely on "wiki-that, wiki-this, wiki-blah-blah". I don't know about this 'Abu Umama' and his hadith found on a website. Turn to authentic hadiths.
Secondly, I have told you that the highest authority in Islam, the Quran, has nothing endorsing rewards for suicide.
Instead, it strongly condems with severe punishments for those who commit suicide.
Thirdly, the next authority in Islam is the Hadiths: the authentic are Bukhari and Muslim.
PLEASE I I REPEAT THE AUTHENTIC HADITHS ARE "Bukhari and Muslim". We find nothing endorsing suicide in the hadiths categorized as authentic: Bukhari and Muslim.
Again we find them condemning it strongly.
However there are some unreliable hadiths referred to as Gharib Hadiths (weak or strange Hadiths). These talk about 72 wives but not virgins. The inauthentic hadith itself is below and it says the Prophet Muhammad (saw) was heard saying:
"The smallest reward for the people of Paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sanaa [Yemen]" as Narrated by Sunan al-Tirmidhi Hadith 2562.
This is as a weak Hadith, because there is a chance that it may have been fabricated or corrupted along the way. Therefore, it has been rejected in Islam as technically weak in its chain of transmitters and not considered accurate. As a result Muslims are not required to believe in it.
SO IMPORTANTEven if the hadith was true, there is nothing about it that says that if someone commits suicide they would get 72 virgins in paradise.
You see, the way Islam has condemned suicide, making as grave sin, then it is unthinkable for its followers to regard sex as a reward if they were to take their lives.
Today, the myth of the 72 virgins an ammunition for those who wish to see their point of view prevail against Islam. The media have twisted this alleged saying to suit their fancies and smear Islam with ridicule and humiliation.