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Alba
#161 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 4:19:30 PM
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guru267 wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
@guru, what do you think is the solution to stopping Al Shabaab attacks in Kenya?


Kenya should stop getting involved in America's war on Islam...
Permit Somalia the Islamic state they desire rather than imposing a Western puppet on them!

Makaburi's death will change absolutely nothing...

An Islamic state is not an issue Muslims take lightly and that's why Palestine, Syria, Somalia Afghanistan, Iraq etc will never know peace until the objective is achieved!



First off Kenya is not hindering them from having an islamic state. They are free to have one if they so choose.

Secondly I do not think most Somalians want an Islamic state. Many of them find Sharia abominable, especially Al Shabaab's version of Sharia where the internet is banned, watching TV is banned, women are stoned. Most Somalis missed the 2010 world cup because of such laws. No wonder KDF soldiers were greeted as heros by many somalis.

Kenya did not intervene in Somalia to prevent Sharia law.

And finally if Somalis want Sharia then why dont Al Shabaab just let them vote on it ? Why must they impose their will on all Somalis ? The answer is simple. Al Shabaab are not really interested in promoting religious piety. They want total control so they can make money from piracy, smuggling, illicit drug sales and so forth.

Banning the internet serves the purpose of keeping Somalis uninformed.

I feel bad for muslim youth who have been brainwashed into thinking that Al Shabaab supports Islam. These youth will die just to enable Al-Shabaab to make money from smuggling and piracy.

They (Al Shabaab) kill more muslims than anyone else. And they are not interested in Sharia. They just want to use it as a pretext for total control. Same thing the Talibahn does.
guru267
#162 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 4:25:44 PM
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And indeed He has revealed to you in the Book that when you hear Allah's communications disbelieved in and mocked at do not sit with them until they enter into some other conversation; surely Allah will gather together the hypocrites and the unbelievers all in hell [Qur'an 4:140]

So they have indeed rejected the truth when it came to them; therefore the truth of what they mocked at will shine upon them. [Qur'an 6:5]

The hypocrites fear that a chapter will be sent down to them telling them plainly of what is in their hearts. Say to them: Go on mocking, surely Allah will bring forth what you fear. [Qur'an 9;64]

And when you call to prayer 5 times a day they make it a mockery and a joke; this is because they are a people who do not understand. [Qur'an 5:58]

Allah shall pay them back their mockery, and He leaves them alone in their inordinacy, blindly wandering on. [Qur'an 2:15]

The life of this world is made to seem fair to those who disbelieve, and they mock those who believe, and those who guard (against evil) shall be above them on the day of resurrection; [Qur'an 2:212]

O you who believe! do not take for guardians those who take your religion for a mockery and a joke, from among the Jews and Christians before you and the unbelievers; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah if you are believers. [Qur'an 5:57]



Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#163 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 4:28:02 PM
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Alba wrote:

First off Kenya is not hindering them from having an islamic state. They are free to have one if they so choose.


I cannot and refuse to argue with the ignorant! Shame on you
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
dunkang
#164 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 4:31:57 PM
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guru267 wrote:
And indeed He has revealed to you in the Book that when you hear Allah's communications disbelieved in and mocked at do not sit with them until they enter into some other conversation; surely Allah will gather together the hypocrites and the unbelievers all in hell [Qur'an 4:140]

So they have indeed rejected the truth when it came to them; therefore the truth of what they mocked at will shine upon them. [Qur'an 6:5]

The hypocrites fear that a chapter will be sent down to them telling them plainly of what is in their hearts. Say to them: Go on mocking, surely Allah will bring forth what you fear. [Qur'an 9;64]

And when you call to prayer 5 times a day they make it a mockery and a joke; this is because they are a people who do not understand. [Qur'an 5:58]

Allah shall pay them back their mockery, and He leaves them alone in their inordinacy, blindly wandering on. [Qur'an 2:15]

The life of this world is made to seem fair to those who disbelieve, and they mock those who believe, and those who guard (against evil) shall be above them on the day of resurrection; [Qur'an 2:212]

O you who believe! do not take for guardians those who take your religion for a mockery and a joke, from among the Jews and Christians before you and the unbelievers; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah if you are believers. [Qur'an 5:57]

And he shall award you with 72 virgins! [Amin]
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

guru267
#165 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 4:38:59 PM
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And there came not to them a prophet that they didn't mock at! [Qur'an 43:7]

Endelea tu! I know insulting Islam calms the terror you have in your hearts but most of us feel nothing because we expect it!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Alba
#166 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 4:41:18 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Alba wrote:

First off Kenya is not hindering them from having an islamic state. They are free to have one if they so choose.


I cannot and refuse to argue with the ignorant! Shame on you



Just admit you have been cornered and have no more arguments. Sharia law was enforced in Somalia as far back as 2009. You should do some wider reading instead of just listening to Makaburis propaganda.

Kenya did not go into somalia to prevent Sharia law. Before Somali pirates started attacking Kenyan tourists we were fine just letting somalis do whatever they want.

And with regard to Sharia law, the USA let Egypt adopt Sharia. It is the Egyptians who are now revolting against it. Once people get a taste of sharia, they no longer want it.

Once again I believe somalis don't want sharia law either. These people want to be free to surf the internet, and watch the world cup. And the women sure as hell do not want to be stoned based only on accusations.
dunkang
#167 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 4:48:31 PM
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Alba wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Alba wrote:

First off Kenya is not hindering them from having an islamic state. They are free to have one if they so choose.


I cannot and refuse to argue with the ignorant! Shame on you



Just admit you have been cornered and have no more arguments. Sharia law was enforced in Somalia as far back as 2009. You should do some wider reading instead of just listening to Makaburis propaganda.

Kenya did not go into somalia to prevent Sharia law. Before Somali pirates started attacking Kenyan tourists we were fine just letting somalis do whatever they want.

And with regard to Sharia law, the USA let Egypt adopt Sharia. It is the Egyptians who are now revolting against it. Once people get a taste of sharia, they no longer want it.

Once again I believe somalis don't want sharia law either. These people want to be free to surf the internet, and watch the world cup. And the women sure as hell do not want to be stoned based only on accusations.

@Alba, still trying to argue with a lunatic. Poteza masaa yako tu!
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

guru267
#168 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 4:50:23 PM
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Alba wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Alba wrote:

First off Kenya is not hindering them from having an islamic state. They are free to have one if they so choose.


I cannot and refuse to argue with the ignorant! Shame on you



Just admit you have been cornered and have no more arguments.


Let me help you and the other ignorant with the correct sequence of events!

1. Somalia sets up Sharia law
2. USA sends Ethiopia and Uganda to invade and crush the Sharia
3. Al Shabaab gains prominence
4. Kenya refuses to get involved
5. Tourists and aid workers get kidnapped
6. Kenya blames Al Shabaab
7. Al Shabaab denies the accusations
8. Kenya invades Somalia
9. Hundreds of Kenyans dying as a result of the invasion!

Someone here asked why Kenya does not invade Ethiopia with all the killings in Turkana and Moyale.?? Ignorance is a disease!!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
murchr
#169 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 4:59:20 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Alba wrote:

First off Kenya is not hindering them from having an islamic state. They are free to have one if they so choose.


I cannot and refuse to argue with the ignorant! Shame on you


Sasa guru mtahama linim nkajenge hio inchi yenu?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Alba
#170 Posted : Wednesday, April 02, 2014 5:23:00 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Alba wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Alba wrote:

First off Kenya is not hindering them from having an islamic state. They are free to have one if they so choose.


I cannot and refuse to argue with the ignorant! Shame on you



Just admit you have been cornered and have no more arguments.


Let me help you and the other ignorant with the correct sequence of events!

1. Somalia sets up Sharia law
2. USA sends Ethiopia and Uganda to invade and crush the Sharia
3. Al Shabaab gains prominence
4. Kenya refuses to get involved
5. Tourists and aid workers get kidnapped
6. Kenya blames Al Shabaab
7. Al Shabaab denies the accusations
8. Kenya invades Somalia
9. Hundreds of Kenyans dying as a result of the invasion!

Someone here asked why Kenya does not invade Ethiopia with all the killings in Turkana and Moyale.?? Ignorance is a disease!!



None of what you posted above shows that Kenya is trying to deny Somalis the right to live under Sharia. They already have Sharia in Somalia. So what exactly is your point when you said kenya is preventing Sharia from happening ?

The only people denying Somalis the right to self determination is actually Al Shabaab. if it is indeed true that Somalis want Sharia law then why not let them vote on it ? Is Al Shabaab afraid to loose ?


The group that is killing more muslims than anyone else is still Al Shabaab. So your justifications are useless.

Al Shabaab are animals just like other muslim terrorists and those who justify them. These people actually slaughter young kids like animals if they try to escape.

Al Shabaab are not fighting for anything noble. They are fighting to protect their right to get rich by kidnapping tourists, smuggling, and drug sales. How anyone can justify this is beyond me.

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