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Home Afrika Listing at NSE!
Aguytrying
#481 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 2:06:10 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
dunkang wrote:
MjasriaMali wrote:
@HAFR wea is this thing headed to?

If you are asking about the share Price???

Long Term (In +2 years), NOWHERE, 2-3/- zone.

Medium Term (3-9 months), stagnating at 4.5-6 bob

Short Term ( between FY2013 release and +2-3 weeks), jumping up to 8/- then back to 4.5-6 bob.

That's what i think. I have very low confidence in this thing.


You right.

At 6-6.50 expect an Avalanche of supply..

For this play T4 is important lest you be trapped.



please head over to KK and tell us what's happening in demand and supply. There's something happening.

I still think this demand and supply momentum trading will choma you one of these days, its worse than gambling. But it doesnt mean we cant brainstrom
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Metasploit
#482 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 2:34:18 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
dunkang wrote:
MjasriaMali wrote:
@HAFR wea is this thing headed to?

If you are asking about the share Price???

Long Term (In +2 years), NOWHERE, 2-3/- zone.

Medium Term (3-9 months), stagnating at 4.5-6 bob

Short Term ( between FY2013 release and +2-3 weeks), jumping up to 8/- then back to 4.5-6 bob.

That's what i think. I have very low confidence in this thing.


You right.

At 6-6.50 expect an Avalanche of supply..

For this play T4 is important lest you be trapped.



please head over to KK and tell has waht's happening in demand and supply. There's something happening.

I still think this demand and supply momentum trading will choma you one of these days, its worse than gambling. But it doesnt mean we cant brainstrom


Many guys do the same.TA tools are a derivative of supply,demand and volume-price action.

I note lot of interest from 17th March with several volume spikes and price heading towards a breakout on upper Bolinger Band at 10.00.

Hapa hiko kitu.

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
hisah
#483 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 2:47:14 PM
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The ugly duckling poised to close in the green after sliding for a while. And so the bounce begins after testing 4.60 and likely to close above open (4.80) with VWAP @4.90. Hammer candle stick forming today indicating bullish reversal in the offing. The overselling and the break of lower BB must be reset.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
wilyum
#484 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 5:47:52 PM
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off the hook abit, i got this colleague of mine who believes in this company and sees it as perfect model to follow, told him to through this thread and this is what he had to say.

Quote:

Quite a concern how the share price dropped so much…

Just thinking Home Afrika was the first company in the building Industry to get to the NSE. What this means is that it could have been misevaluated.

The bloggers here I don’t think really understand what the financial statement say..because they actually defend Home Afrika that is getting more efficient in its operations as indicated by the decline in Cost of Sales despite increase in Turnover…

In addition for Financial statement Analysis the what data do they have….

The guy also talks about the book value….Hope they mean Book Value of Equity per share. This value seeks to show the final claim by shareholders for each share. Standing on it’s own doesn’t say too much.

On this claim



The fact that Home Africa is a listed firm means that they file audited financial statements with the CMA – Capital Markets Authority….so who is the right person to ask really…..I think on the fly of it I find it quite baseless

My conclusion FINANCE LIKE IT is not a NO BRAINER




mlennyma
#485 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 7:47:46 PM
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Home africa has today broken the ground for a 2billion modern estate in kisumu city.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Ali Baba
#486 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 7:52:16 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Home africa has today broken the ground for a 2billion modern estate in kisumu city.
optimists should celebrate and pessimists should cry.
guru267
#487 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 8:50:25 PM
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The Kisumu project is looking good! Applause
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mlennyma
#488 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2014 8:54:29 PM
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I will buy more on monday
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
MjasriaMali
#489 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:24:52 PM
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Bought substantial amount for long haul.@dunkang, my spirits are dampen. HELL NO to so called stock advisers from Apex!
obiero
#490 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 3:12:34 PM
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no news.. many grounds have been broken before by the very same briefcase management..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#491 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:53:37 PM
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obiero wrote:
no news.. many grounds have been broken before by the very same briefcase management..
Reminds me of Olympia where the corrupt Board Members kept on buying shares in firms or made investments every month. And it is all coming crashing down. Watch what merali does at Sameer (Tyres) by selling off properties!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#492 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:47:54 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
no news.. many grounds have been broken before by the very same briefcase management..
Reminds me of Olympia where the corrupt Board Members kept on buying shares in firms or made investments every month. And it is all coming crashing down. Watch what merali does at Sameer (Tyres) by selling off properties!


Haters gonna hate.. Laughing out loudly

Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#493 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2014 1:37:03 AM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
no news.. many grounds have been broken before by the very same briefcase management..
Reminds me of Olympia where the corrupt Board Members kept on buying shares in firms or made investments every month. And it is all coming crashing down. Watch what merali does at Sameer (Tyres) by selling off properties!

Haters gonna hate.. Laughing out loudly
And Pumpers and Dumpers [who shall remain nameless] shall continue Pumping and Dumping. Shame on you Liar Shame on you Liar Shame on you
Respect to @Obiero who finally called them out.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
dunkang
#494 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:01:07 AM
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guru267 wrote:
The Kisumu project is looking good! Applause

WHAT?????? Even if its hyping..........? Looking good just 1 day after ground breaking?????

All the same, good luck. I wish everyone well, i hate it when wazuans lose money.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

dunkang
#495 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:17:41 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Home africa has today broken the ground for a 2billion modern estate in kisumu city.

How much was Migaa? Whats the progress so far?

Now, simple mathematics;
1. What is the size of the land, the entire lot and individual plots?
2. How many plots and houses are proposed in that land?
3. How much is a plot and/or house going for?
4. How is that calculated figure compared to the KES2B that is been thrown around?
5. What is the project implementation period, (reminds me of Migaa), i.e when 100% off the plots and/or houses will be sold?
6. What is the going price of nearby land in Riat Hill?

Using the infomation on our hands right now, Home Afrika is HYPER-ULTRA-EXTREMELY risky to buy, until fundamentals change, i will keep off.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

rhyma
#496 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:31:37 AM
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am looking to still invest in the company now,that the share prices are at an all time low...! I bet e company has ft sme gas left to push it up again #optimist
dunkang
#497 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:23:35 AM
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rhyma wrote:
am looking to still invest in the company now,that the share prices are at an all time low...! I bet e company has ft sme gas left to push it up again #optimist

It seems guys are very determined to hype this thing, upto the extent of starting new usernames to shore up support. ISORAIT.

But seriously, if the fundamentals are OK, why won't someone just place the numbers on the table so as we can agree to disagree, or disagree to agree.

Don't just say; "its good since its REAL ESTATE, no blogger understands real estate".

Or " the share price has reached its lowest price ever." Seriously???? Investing in hope now???

Or "Financial reports are audited." Even CMC was audited for all those years when funds were being diverted to Jersey island.

Or "the company has become more efficient, as indicated in the financial reports." Wajamaneni, ever heard about an accounting strategy where expected future revenue is booked now to fatten the books? Or an expenditure is postponed to be booked in the future so as the PBT and PAT look good now?

Also, saying that bloggers don't know what Book Value is hillarious just to say the least. This firm own books are the one that show us that the NAV is less than 1/- and less than 0.8/- exclusive of goodwill per share. And would you also tell us the reason why i would pay 6 times the NAV for a firm whose bosses have parrallel companies engaged in the same business???? Conflict of interest?? What was the price before listing by the way?? What was the share structure before listing and how is it now??? Dumping???

Next project they have is the Kikwetu project (Machakos), where they want to build 100,000 houses, +60km away from Nairobi. They can build, but selling is the key issue. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

guru267
#498 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:05:21 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
no news.. many grounds have been broken before by the very same briefcase management..
Reminds me of Olympia where the corrupt Board Members kept on buying shares in firms or made investments every month. And it is all coming crashing down. Watch what merali does at Sameer (Tyres) by selling off properties!

Haters gonna hate.. Laughing out loudly
And Pumpers and Dumpers [who shall remain nameless] shall continue Pumping and Dumping. Shame on you Liar Shame on you Liar Shame on you
Respect to @Obiero who finally called them out.


Instead of breathing hot air here provide something concrete against Home Afrika...

All wazuans are getting from you are "oh this company is like Olympia and sameer blah blah blah.... oh it will be delisted in two years nye nye nye....."

I can say you and some others just sound like bitter old investors who've gotten burnt by the market one time too many!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#499 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:11:29 AM
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Let this company first announce extra huge losses.... Let one of the housing projects first fail.... Let the management perform badly first.....

After all of this then @obiero, @VVS and @dunkang will sound more reasonable in their hate speech!

But to dismiss a company ONLY because the share price has fallen is amateur, naive, and plain incompetent Sad
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
sparkly
#500 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2014 5:48:33 PM
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@Guru a seasoned investor like yourself knew what you were getting yourself into... pure speculation. No one to blame but yourself. Take your losses like a warrior and hope for a quick recovery.
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