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McReggae
#341 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 6:24:45 PM
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Alba wrote:
SG wrote:


Global, effect to EU escalates to US markets then global recession when US economy has shown signs of recovery. US & Russia are tied to the hip and only a fool would impose economic sanctions due to ripple effects.



Please read and comprehend before posting. No one wrote that sanctions will not have ripple effects. Mcreggae is correctly laughing at the idea that sanctions will affect the US more.

The US economy is far more diversified than Russia. Russia will literally collapse if they cannot sell raw materials to Europe.


Exactly!!!
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murchr
#342 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 6:46:54 PM
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First get the history right. Crimea has been shuffled several times at one time it belonged to the greek. 2, the autonomous republicans of Crimea was built crimeans not Ukrainians. 3, those crimeans the majority of them voted to join Russia isnt that what democracy is? Or democracy is only correct when its enforced by the usual suspects? Most Ukrainians are of Russian decent and the napoleon wars made them hate Europeans to the core. Maybe obomber should work on that


Crimea has belonged to Ukraine for 50 years. which means that Ukraine tax payer money has been invested in building the region for over 50 years. On top of that, Crimea was legally given to Ukraine. So why is it right that they lose it now ?

I see you dodged my question with regard to whether the Pwani sio kenya group should be allowed a referendum to decide if they want Coast to be in Kenya. Perhaps you are a hypocrite just like Putin.

Speaking of Putin, he is the biggest hypocrite of them all. When Chechnya wanted to leave Russia, he refused. Instead he bombed them to smithereens. Why did'nt Putin also allow Checnya to secede since they wanted and still want nothing to do with Russia. The answer is easy. Putin is a bloody hypocrite.

I have already given reasons why I think the referendum was sham so I will not bother repeating them.


The Crimeans were the taxpayers just as the other ukrainians were. Chechnya is a republic a federal subject of Russia. Crimea was also an autonomous state a subject of Ukraine, whom they dissed They had their own govt parliament etc. There's a whole history on Chechens that is not as simple as you'd want to claim. The greatest fear of the west is that he is rebuilding the USSR, if its the people's choice then it will be inevitable.

Obama should be focusing on the oncoming elections, he is close to loosing the majority on the senate, if that happens life will be miserable in his last two years.
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McReggae
#343 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:03:44 PM
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This is turning out to be Russia Vs Germany and it's rather funny that all the world wars so far have been this Russia vs. Prussia thing, with the French as collateral damage and the English as the allies of one side and the Americans coming in late on the side of the English to kill off the other side.
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Lolest!
#344 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:15:39 PM
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what Alba is calling hypocrisy is what I'd call interests. The same Yanks supported the arming of Southern Sudan after the 2005 CPA in case of a possible return of secessionist war against Khartoum(the GOSS tanks, remember?). Kenya had actually been coerced into allowing those tanks throgh msa. States later condemned Kenya for that but just as a cover up
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murchr
#345 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:39:18 PM
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McReggae wrote:
This is turning out to be Russia Vs Germany and it's rather funny that all the world wars so far have been this Russia vs. Prussia thing, with the French as collateral damage and the English as the allies of one side and the Americans coming in late on the side of the English to kill off the other side.


The French collateral damage in what wars how now? Take that lesson my brother
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McReggae
#346 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:46:22 PM
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murchr wrote:
McReggae wrote:
This is turning out to be Russia Vs Germany and it's rather funny that all the world wars so far have been this Russia vs. Prussia thing, with the French as collateral damage and the English as the allies of one side and the Americans coming in late on the side of the English to kill off the other side.


The French collateral damage in what wars how now? Take that lesson my brother


Study the two world wars and understand my comment in that context bro......you don't just have to contradict me coz I'm not on Russian side.
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murchr
#347 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:49:54 PM
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McReggae wrote:
murchr wrote:
McReggae wrote:
This is turning out to be Russia Vs Germany and it's rather funny that all the world wars so far have been this Russia vs. Prussia thing, with the French as collateral damage and the English as the allies of one side and the Americans coming in late on the side of the English to kill off the other side.


The French collateral damage in what wars how now? Take that lesson my brother


Study the two world wars and understand my comment in that context bro......you don't just have to contradict me coz I'm not on Russian side.


Your comment doesnt hold water
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McReggae
#348 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:04:13 PM
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@murchir In both WW1 and WW2, France was occupied by Germany and much fighting took place in France rather than in Germany, so that France suffered the more shelling than Germany during the wars even though the Germans lost and the French were on the winning side......we on the same page now?
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murchr
#349 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:18:35 PM
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McReggae wrote:
@murchir In both WW1 and WW2, France was occupied by Germany and much fighting took place in France rather than in Germany, so that France suffered the more shelling than Germany during the wars even though the Germans lost and the French were on the winning side......we on the same page now?


So how is France comming in now? If this is Russia vs Germany. By the way, that Angel in Germany doesnt want this "war" at all. Hakuna pesa so many of these countries owe her and for her they have to pay.

Secondly, Germany relies so much on Russia not only for its energy but other raw materials as well, and Russia is a good market for german technology trade = $35B. So far her diplomats ave distanced themselves from this Obama story, issuing vague sentences.
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freiks
#350 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:39:22 PM
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I can tell all that we can yap this and that but Russia has won its part, wengine wawekelee zao tuone wataenda mpaka wapi! They will just wait for winter then they shut the gas pipes and all those obese europeans will die one by one while russians will be enjoying their vodka
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